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Re: pos 'pubs being complete pieces of crap
« Reply #2400 on: February 17, 2025, 11:00:44 AM »
I don't follow Kansas politics too closely but what are Kansas politicians actively doing to reduce/ban abortions after the amendment failed in 2022?

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« Reply #2402 on: February 17, 2025, 08:21:54 PM »
Not even pro birth it seems.

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« Reply #2403 on: February 17, 2025, 08:34:45 PM »



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« Reply #2404 on: February 17, 2025, 10:15:23 PM »
Guys can we please start focused on what’s important? 60 minutes interviewed, like, a couple of people or something. Dax please get in here and remind everyone why they’re focusing on dumb crap

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« Reply #2405 on: February 18, 2025, 07:56:13 AM »
Guys can we please start focused on what’s important? 60 minutes interviewed, like, a couple of people or something. Dax please get in here and remind everyone why they’re focusing on dumb crap

They told us from the start and it's going to be fine BAC. Sure, regular and especially poor people will lose their jobs, some (probably lots) will die, but it will all be worth it when rich people have a bit more money than they did when Biden was president. You can't make an omelette (rich people can because they can afford eggs) without cracking a few eggs.

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Re: pos 'pubs being complete pieces of crap
« Reply #2407 on: February 18, 2025, 12:30:36 PM »
https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1891661991078420910?s=46&t=hU61MNRKQXFa4a831KNtLg


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You know what, they probably are. Forget how many abusive families there are. How they will disown people for being different, say things like "back in my day my parents beat me and I turned out all right" . Hell they are keeping it "all in the family" there where trump wants to boink Ivanka and Elon wants a "family" that is just a bunch of kids he gives 0 effs about. Kinda a neat trick when you expect everyone else to think of family as wholesome and pure when in reality it's protecting one's family, and eff everyone else.
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« Reply #2408 on: February 18, 2025, 01:08:17 PM »
Texas has some of the strictest abortion laws, with 6000 kids up for adoption, and almost 30,000 in the foster care system. I wonder how many of the people who pushed for such strict abortion laws are licensed to foster? Or tried to adopt? Or at the very least, donated time/money to helping kids get adopted?

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« Reply #2409 on: February 18, 2025, 05:07:11 PM »
Texas has some of the strictest abortion laws, with 6000 kids up for adoption, and almost 30,000 in the foster care system. I wonder how many of the people who pushed for such strict abortion laws are licensed to foster? Or tried to adopt? Or at the very least, donated time/money to helping kids get adopted?

it would be in the single digit percentages.  low single digits

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« Reply #2410 on: February 18, 2025, 05:26:22 PM »
KS repubs getting down to business finally. After discussing the raccoon pet issue, they appear to have the votes to override the govs veto on their trans legislation. I just don't understand how people can be so rough ridin' hateful. Im sure any and all legislation that will actually rough ridin' help anyone will be null and void for the remainder.

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« Reply #2411 on: February 18, 2025, 05:32:29 PM »
KS repubs getting down to business finally. After discussing the raccoon pet issue, they appear to have the votes to override the govs veto on their trans legislation. I just don't understand how people can be so rough ridin' hateful. Im sure any and all legislation that will actually rough ridin' help anyone will be null and void for the remainder.

Help people later. First things first we gotta inflict pain and suffering. For reasons!

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« Reply #2412 on: February 18, 2025, 05:45:16 PM »
Guys, hold on.  We aren't done with racoon ownership yet.

These fees shall not stand!

"Raccoon owners would need to:

Pay a $100 fee for the initial application.
Pay for a $250 annual permit renewal.
Pay $150 for an initial inspection.
Pay $75 for additional inspections.
Pay $100 for late renewals.
Pay $150 to transfer the permit."

On a side note, 'pubs out here creating jobs.... Racoon Inspector. 

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« Reply #2413 on: February 18, 2025, 06:02:54 PM »
Texas has some of the strictest abortion laws, with 6000 kids up for adoption, and almost 30,000 in the foster care system. I wonder how many of the people who pushed for such strict abortion laws are licensed to foster? Or tried to adopt? Or at the very least, donated time/money to helping kids get adopted?
I recognize that it’s a bad thing that those 36,000 kids don’t have good situations with stable, loving families.  The community and government ought to do a better job taking care of them.

But I cannot reconcile that it would be a better result if those 36,000 kids were dead.- I think it’s good they’re alive, even if their circumstances may be unimaginably rough right now.


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« Reply #2414 on: February 18, 2025, 07:17:00 PM »
Kids again!

https://kansasreflector.com/2025/02/18/kansas-legislature-overrides-governors-veto-of-legislation-that-targets-trans-kids/

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prohibits the use of state funds for psychological treatment for transgender children, bans state employees from promoting “social transitioning” and outlaws liability insurance for damages related to gender-affirming care.

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« Reply #2415 on: February 18, 2025, 07:22:12 PM »
Texas has some of the strictest abortion laws, with 6000 kids up for adoption, and almost 30,000 in the foster care system. I wonder how many of the people who pushed for such strict abortion laws are licensed to foster? Or tried to adopt? Or at the very least, donated time/money to helping kids get adopted?
I recognize that it’s a bad thing that those 36,000 kids don’t have good situations with stable, loving families.  The community and government ought to do a better job taking care of them.

But I cannot reconcile that it would be a better result if those 36,000 kids were dead.- I think it’s good they’re alive, even if their circumstances may be unimaginably rough right now.

Doing stuff like supporting education, sex ed, childcare, paid paternity/maternity leave, universal healthcare etc etc etc is a great rough ridin' place to start then essentially condemning them to a life of being told they're not worth it. Which is what pubs do every. rough ridin'. Time.
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« Reply #2416 on: February 18, 2025, 07:23:00 PM »
Texas has some of the strictest abortion laws, with 6000 kids up for adoption, and almost 30,000 in the foster care system. I wonder how many of the people who pushed for such strict abortion laws are licensed to foster? Or tried to adopt? Or at the very least, donated time/money to helping kids get adopted?
I recognize that it’s a bad thing that those 36,000 kids don’t have good situations with stable, loving families.  The community and government ought to do a better job taking care of them.

But I cannot reconcile that it would be a better result if those 36,000 kids were dead.- I think it’s good they’re alive, even if their circumstances may be unimaginably rough right now.


On the plus side, statistically speaking, at least most of them are going to have an absolutely miserable existence always. (Unless you enjoy human trafficking, in which case, party on!)

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« Reply #2417 on: February 18, 2025, 07:29:54 PM »
Pregnant women and for those who read between the lines, no adoption for couples that aren’t straight and Christian.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5151439-missouri-bill-registry-pregnant-women-abortion/


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« Reply #2418 on: February 18, 2025, 07:33:22 PM »
Pregnant women and for those who read between the lines, no adoption for couples that aren’t straight and Christian.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5151439-missouri-bill-registry-pregnant-women-abortion/

Ah yes, create a database of at risk (black and poor) women
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« Reply #2419 on: February 18, 2025, 07:43:38 PM »
Texas has some of the strictest abortion laws, with 6000 kids up for adoption, and almost 30,000 in the foster care system. I wonder how many of the people who pushed for such strict abortion laws are licensed to foster? Or tried to adopt? Or at the very least, donated time/money to helping kids get adopted?
I recognize that it’s a bad thing that those 36,000 kids don’t have good situations with stable, loving families.  The community and government ought to do a better job taking care of them.

But I cannot reconcile that it would be a better result if those 36,000 kids were dead.- I think it’s good they’re alive, even if their circumstances may be unimaginably rough right now.

Doing stuff like supporting education, sex ed, childcare, paid paternity/maternity leave, universal healthcare etc etc etc is a great rough ridin' place to start then essentially condemning them to a life of being told they're not worth it. Which is what pubs do every. rough ridin'. Time.
I want all those things.  But more than all those things, I want those kids not to be killed.  If it’s a choice between the two (and it apparently is, for now) I opt for not killing them.


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« Reply #2420 on: February 18, 2025, 07:48:21 PM »
Pregnant women and for those who read between the lines, no adoption for couples that aren’t straight and Christian.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5151439-missouri-bill-registry-pregnant-women-abortion/
I’d be ok with this as long as there is a companion database of gun owners who are at risk of shooting people.

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« Reply #2421 on: February 18, 2025, 07:48:45 PM »
Kids again!

https://kansasreflector.com/2025/02/18/kansas-legislature-overrides-governors-veto-of-legislation-that-targets-trans-kids/

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prohibits the use of state funds for psychological treatment for transgender children, bans state employees from promoting “social transitioning” and outlaws liability insurance for damages related to gender-affirming care.

That sucks and is very wrong

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« Reply #2422 on: February 18, 2025, 09:12:48 PM »
Pregnant women and for those who read between the lines, no adoption for couples that aren’t straight and Christian.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5151439-missouri-bill-registry-pregnant-women-abortion/
I’d be ok with this as long as there is a companion database of gun owners who are at risk of shooting people.
Nope, constitution. I mean, just like that part. None of the other parts. Like literally none of the other parts any more.


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« Reply #2423 on: February 18, 2025, 11:07:37 PM »
Texas has some of the strictest abortion laws, with 6000 kids up for adoption, and almost 30,000 in the foster care system. I wonder how many of the people who pushed for such strict abortion laws are licensed to foster? Or tried to adopt? Or at the very least, donated time/money to helping kids get adopted?
I recognize that it’s a bad thing that those 36,000 kids don’t have good situations with stable, loving families.  The community and government ought to do a better job taking care of them.

But I cannot reconcile that it would be a better result if those 36,000 kids were dead.- I think it’s good they’re alive, even if their circumstances may be unimaginably rough right now.

Doing stuff like supporting education, sex ed, childcare, paid paternity/maternity leave, universal healthcare etc etc etc is a great rough ridin' place to start then essentially condemning them to a life of being told they're not worth it. Which is what pubs do every. rough ridin'. Time.
I want all those things.  But more than all those things, I want those kids not to be killed.  If it’s a choice between the two (and it apparently is, for now) I opt for not killing them.

These people existed, but only at the cellular level. Killing them just isn't a big deal at all.

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« Reply #2424 on: February 18, 2025, 11:34:29 PM »
Texas has some of the strictest abortion laws, with 6000 kids up for adoption, and almost 30,000 in the foster care system. I wonder how many of the people who pushed for such strict abortion laws are licensed to foster? Or tried to adopt? Or at the very least, donated time/money to helping kids get adopted?
I recognize that it’s a bad thing that those 36,000 kids don’t have good situations with stable, loving families.  The community and government ought to do a better job taking care of them.

But I cannot reconcile that it would be a better result if those 36,000 kids were dead.- I think it’s good they’re alive, even if their circumstances may be unimaginably rough right now.

I often push back on pro-choice folks by saying "would you rather be alive in foster care or to never have existed?" and it usually leads to a pretty good conversation. One that I especially like because I get to mention Neutral Milk Hotel lyrics. Point being I understand, and truly empathize with, the logic.

To be clear, my stance is that only women should vote on the issue of abortion. I also recognize that that wouldn't be possible outside of a Utopian society.

But, back in the day, when I was pro-life, my ex and I did the work to become foster parents. And through the fostering system, we also signed up to adopt. And I can't imagine explaining to 25 year old Stevesie that there are people who are adamantly pro-life that aren't signed up to foster/adopt.

So my point is not that those 36,000 shouldn't exist. My point is that even at the ripe age of 25, we signed up to foster/adopt any kid who needed it. And even though I voted democrat almost exclusively since the age of 18, I think it's more "pro-life" to offer respite to children in the foster care system, while voting "pro-choice", than it is to vote "pro-life" and not offer a home to children in the foster care system.

So that's why I look at those Texas numbers and have to wonder how people interpret "pro-life". Because holy eff, that's a lot of kids looking for homes.