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Re: US Men's National Team Soccer Thread! (lower division thread)
« Reply #6800 on: August 01, 2021, 07:52:04 PM »
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« Reply #6801 on: August 02, 2021, 07:58:42 AM »
2 titles in a row over Mexico.  Time for them to burn it down and start over.

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« Reply #6802 on: August 02, 2021, 09:35:16 AM »
2 titles in a row over Mexico.  Time for them to burn it down and start over.

We also played so poorly until the subs came in too, kinda amazing in many respects that we won.
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« Reply #6803 on: August 02, 2021, 12:53:08 PM »
acosta was amazing...if he's still in mls, he shouldn't be

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« Reply #6804 on: August 02, 2021, 10:29:57 PM »
Not gonna lie, I cried last night. I quit the usmnt before this yearbut this summer I felt really invested with this gold cup team in particular, even more than I did with the 2010 and 2014 World Cup teams. Going into the match I was definitely in "happy to be here" mode but as they match played out, hope built. I love MLS and I love the spirit that team played with. It was awesome and easily one of my favorite championship games I've ever watched.

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« Reply #6805 on: August 27, 2021, 02:45:49 PM »
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« Reply #6806 on: August 27, 2021, 02:47:30 PM »
I'll be at the game in Nashville!!   First time seeing them play in person!


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« Reply #6807 on: August 27, 2021, 04:12:47 PM »
I'll be at the game in Nashville!!   First time seeing them play in person!


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« Reply #6808 on: August 27, 2021, 04:16:39 PM »
also there's obviously a million great places to eat and drink there, but if you want to get out of the clusterF part of nashville (broadway/gulch/midtown) go to east nashville for two things:

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« Reply #6809 on: August 27, 2021, 04:42:01 PM »
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« Reply #6810 on: August 27, 2021, 06:16:46 PM »
I'll be at the game in Nashville!!   First time seeing them play in person!


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My first usmnt game was USA Canada at the Gold Cup, the atmosphere was unreal, that Shaq Moore goal as as loud as I've heard Children's Mercy Park. USMNT has a real problem with their ticket prices though.

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« Reply #6811 on: September 07, 2021, 04:04:44 PM »
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That was discouraging.  I may post pics later.  Too depressed.  If we miss the world cup again.....

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Re: US Men's National Team Soccer Thread! (lower division thread)
« Reply #6812 on: September 07, 2021, 10:00:12 PM »
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« Reply #6813 on: September 08, 2021, 07:38:04 PM »
What does that tweet mean?

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« Reply #6814 on: September 08, 2021, 09:17:40 PM »
Weston's dad RT'ing some dude taking a shot a the head coach's tactics while also wondering why it's okay for the coach to go jogging in Nashville but the players can't hang out with some bachelorette parties on wheels.

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Re: US Men's National Team Soccer Thread! (lower division thread)
« Reply #6815 on: September 08, 2021, 09:36:20 PM »
How can US Soccer think that it's a good idea for World Cup Qualifying games to be shown only on Paramount+?

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« Reply #6816 on: September 08, 2021, 10:17:47 PM »
think they shoulda just brought the gold cup team...this looks all kinds of disjointed

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« Reply #6817 on: September 08, 2021, 11:34:41 PM »
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« Reply #6818 on: September 08, 2021, 11:39:58 PM »
How can US Soccer think that it's a good idea for World Cup Qualifying games to be shown only on Paramount+?

Because CBS gave them significantly more money than ESPN or Fox did for these away matches and CBS feels the best way to get their ROI is to make people but Paramount+

Let's be real, casuals aren't watching road CONCACAF WCQs. The people who want to watch this, generally will want to see Champions League too. I appreciate this a lot more than what NBC did to the Premier League.

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Re: US Men's National Team Soccer Thread! (lower division thread)
« Reply #6819 on: September 09, 2021, 12:45:58 AM »
How can US Soccer think that it's a good idea for World Cup Qualifying games to be shown only on Paramount+?

Because CBS gave them significantly more money than ESPN or Fox did for these away matches and CBS feels the best way to get their ROI is to make people but Paramount+

Let's be real, casuals aren't watching road CONCACAF WCQs. The people who want to watch this, generally will want to see Champions League too. I appreciate this a lot more than what NBC did to the Premier League.

i am a casual who got home from softball tonight, checked twitter and saw we were playing tonight (around halftime) and decided I wanted to watch the game. I googled USMNT vs Honduras to see what channel it was on...yeah dont get any of those so I checked out a random site I found on reddit when I was looking for NFL streams and they had the game.

I understand that they made more money selling the rights to paramount+ or whatever but shouldnt they be trying to grow their brand and attract non hardcore fans like me?

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Re: US Men's National Team Soccer Thread! (lower division thread)
« Reply #6820 on: September 09, 2021, 05:43:52 AM »
I watched the 1st half and thought that was the worst half I'd ever seen from usmnt, went to bed sad.
What a 2nd half!

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Re: US Men's National Team Soccer Thread! (lower division thread)
« Reply #6821 on: September 09, 2021, 05:44:56 AM »
How can US Soccer think that it's a good idea for World Cup Qualifying games to be shown only on Paramount+?

Because CBS gave them significantly more money than ESPN or Fox did for these away matches and CBS feels the best way to get their ROI is to make people but Paramount+

Let's be real, casuals aren't watching road CONCACAF WCQs. The people who want to watch this, generally will want to see Champions League too. I appreciate this a lot more than what NBC did to the Premier League.

i am a casual who got home from softball tonight, checked twitter and saw we were playing tonight (around halftime) and decided I wanted to watch the game. I googled USMNT vs Honduras to see what channel it was on...yeah dont get any of those so I checked out a random site I found on reddit when I was looking for NFL streams and they had the game.

I understand that they made more money selling the rights to paramount+ or whatever but shouldnt they be trying to grow their brand and attract non hardcore fans like me?


Random site you found on reddit when you were doing what now? That's weird
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Re: US Men's National Team Soccer Thread! (lower division thread)
« Reply #6822 on: September 09, 2021, 09:32:46 AM »
How can US Soccer think that it's a good idea for World Cup Qualifying games to be shown only on Paramount+?

Because CBS gave them significantly more money than ESPN or Fox did for these away matches and CBS feels the best way to get their ROI is to make people but Paramount+

Let's be real, casuals aren't watching road CONCACAF WCQs. The people who want to watch this, generally will want to see Champions League too. I appreciate this a lot more than what NBC did to the Premier League.

I am definitely not a casual soccer fan, but I'm not dealing with Paramount+ or the Peacock streaming.  Moreover, there are some fans that are more casual than me that would watch if it was on non-streaming only network.  However, by having the game on Paramount+, casual fans and some highly interested fans (e.g. my kids and me), did not watch the game and are just a little less invested in the USMNT as a result.  It doesn't matter if US Soccer gets more money from CBS.  They should tell anyone bidding on WCQ games that they cannot only be available on a streaming network.

US Soccer is not a for profit entity.  Their mission, as far as I am concerned, is to win World Cups.  The way to do that is to get more people interested in soccer and have more kids playing soccer.  Showing games on Paramount+ does not do that.  Even with the increased money, US Soccer does not spend it in a way to increase interest in the game.  They do basically nothing to help kids facing financial barriers to playing soccer and do nothing to discourage kids from playing for clubs where the only thing that matters is money.
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« Reply #6823 on: September 09, 2021, 10:42:36 AM »
How can US Soccer think that it's a good idea for World Cup Qualifying games to be shown only on Paramount+?

Because CBS gave them significantly more money than ESPN or Fox did for these away matches and CBS feels the best way to get their ROI is to make people but Paramount+

Let's be real, casuals aren't watching road CONCACAF WCQs. The people who want to watch this, generally will want to see Champions League too. I appreciate this a lot more than what NBC did to the Premier League.

I am definitely not a casual soccer fan, but I'm not dealing with Paramount+ or the Peacock streaming.  Moreover, there are some fans that are more casual than me that would watch if it was on non-streaming only network.  However, by having the game on Paramount+, casual fans and some highly interested fans (e.g. my kids and me), did not watch the game and are just a little less invested in the USMNT as a result.  It doesn't matter if US Soccer gets more money from CBS.  They should tell anyone bidding on WCQ games that they cannot only be available on a streaming network.

US Soccer is not a for profit entity.  Their mission, as far as I am concerned, is to win World Cups.  The way to do that is to get more people interested in soccer and have more kids playing soccer.  Showing games on Paramount+ does not do that.  Even with the increased money, US Soccer does not spend it in a way to increase interest in the game.  They do basically nothing to help kids facing financial barriers to playing soccer and do nothing to discourage kids from playing for clubs where the only thing that matters is money.

Slight aside, this is a very surprising take from you. I guess capitalism does have it's limits. I do agree with you that US Soccer needs to prioritize growing the game over profits, but they have made it very clear that they have and will prioritize making money over growing the game. They've done it on every single level of soccer, from u3 to the senior national teams. Wasn't it you that advocated for pay-to-play? Sorry if it wasn't. I had this complaint about their ticket prices. The Champions League final has cheaper get in ticket prices than what the prices were for that USA/Canada WCQ in Nashville. I can't imagine what they are going to charge for tickets when they play these qualifiers in the smaller soccer specific stadiums. I paid $140 face value, for a damn Gold Cup pool play match.

No, the road matches shouldn't be on Paramount+, but the greed is consistent and no where close to the most egregious act of routine greed that USSF performs. The CEO of US Soccer makes north of $700,000 per year.

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Re: US Men's National Team Soccer Thread! (lower division thread)
« Reply #6824 on: September 09, 2021, 12:03:27 PM »
How can US Soccer think that it's a good idea for World Cup Qualifying games to be shown only on Paramount+?

Because CBS gave them significantly more money than ESPN or Fox did for these away matches and CBS feels the best way to get their ROI is to make people but Paramount+

Let's be real, casuals aren't watching road CONCACAF WCQs. The people who want to watch this, generally will want to see Champions League too. I appreciate this a lot more than what NBC did to the Premier League.

I am definitely not a casual soccer fan, but I'm not dealing with Paramount+ or the Peacock streaming.  Moreover, there are some fans that are more casual than me that would watch if it was on non-streaming only network.  However, by having the game on Paramount+, casual fans and some highly interested fans (e.g. my kids and me), did not watch the game and are just a little less invested in the USMNT as a result.  It doesn't matter if US Soccer gets more money from CBS.  They should tell anyone bidding on WCQ games that they cannot only be available on a streaming network.

US Soccer is not a for profit entity.  Their mission, as far as I am concerned, is to win World Cups.  The way to do that is to get more people interested in soccer and have more kids playing soccer.  Showing games on Paramount+ does not do that.  Even with the increased money, US Soccer does not spend it in a way to increase interest in the game.  They do basically nothing to help kids facing financial barriers to playing soccer and do nothing to discourage kids from playing for clubs where the only thing that matters is money.

Slight aside, this is a very surprising take from you. I guess capitalism does have it's limits. I do agree with you that US Soccer needs to prioritize growing the game over profits, but they have made it very clear that they have and will prioritize making money over growing the game. They've done it on every single level of soccer, from u3 to the senior national teams. Wasn't it you that advocated for pay-to-play? Sorry if it wasn't. I had this complaint about their ticket prices. The Champions League final has cheaper get in ticket prices than what the prices were for that USA/Canada WCQ in Nashville. I can't imagine what they are going to charge for tickets when they play these qualifiers in the smaller soccer specific stadiums. I paid $140 face value, for a damn Gold Cup pool play match.

No, the road matches shouldn't be on Paramount+, but the greed is consistent and no where close to the most egregious act of routine greed that USSF performs. The CEO of US Soccer makes north of $700,000 per year.

If an organization is going to claim it is a non-profit, then I don't think it should be able to go around trying to enrich people and not fulfilling its mission.  Even the NFL is no longer a non-profit.  I would generally be in favor of getting rid of non-profit status, especially for organizations like US Soccer and college athletics.  I would not have much of a problem with US Soccer doing whatever they want if they were not a non-profit.  I would understand their mission is to enrich people and not promote soccer in the US.

I would also not have a problem with US Soccer having games on Paramount+ if they used the additional money to actually promote soccer in the US.  US Soccer is terrible at this and never uses its piles of money to actually grow the game.  They use the money to enrich some cronies and that's about it.  I do not like pay to play.  I always ask those who say it must go away what their alternative is.  In my opinion, the alternative is US Soccer using the money it has to develop players.  However, that is not happening so pay to play is going to stick around until US Soccer changes its mind about how it spends its money.  Creating scholarships and developing a solidarity payment system to reward youth clubs are basic first steps US Soccer could take.

US Soccer also needs to force state associations to make soccer accessible to kids in all communities, not just metro areas.  If you want to play soccer at any sort of competitive level in Kansas, you have to play in Kansas City or in Wichita.  That means if you live in Manhattan, you have to drive 2 hours to play league games.  You also have to go to KC or Wichita to play in tournaments.  It is almost impossible for tournaments outside of Wichita and Kansas City to be held.  Even the tournaments in Wichita are weakly attended with combined age groups many times.  A lot of the reason for this is the number of tournaments in the KC area.  There are so many that the KC area teams basically refuse to travel.  A few do, but not many.  KSYSA has got to do something to give families outside of KC (and Wichita) a break on the travel.  It is choking the game out and driving kids away from the sport.  There is a turf field in Manhattan and a turf field in Topeka.  There is no reason KC teams can't do a little traveling to benefit the sport overall.