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Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« on: November 03, 2017, 09:29:37 AM »
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"I did not perform very well in front of Sean," McCrane recalled of that camp, which followed many others in a short span, thus the sore leg and errant kicks. "He said, 'Ignore that. I don't care if it goes in. I'm watching your technique.' That's when it kind of stuck out to me that at this place, special teams are of importance."

http://www.kstatesports.com/news/2017/11/2/football-k-state-special-teams-continues-tradition-of-high-level-performance.aspx


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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2017, 09:39:01 AM »
Did McCrane really say “special teams are of importance?” Is he studying humanities or something?

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2017, 09:41:00 AM »
Sean is a really good special teams coach.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2017, 09:48:08 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2017, 09:56:08 AM »
Sean is a really good special teams coach.

Pretty consistent during Snyder 2.0.



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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2017, 10:00:47 AM »
Sean is a really good special teams coach.

Pretty consistent during Snyder 2.0.
Keep Sean at special teams. Make stud hire for HC

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2017, 10:02:44 AM »
If Sean wasn't a Snyder, I think he'd be more revered. People are rightly scared of what he might be if handed the keys to k-state fb, but he has shown at least some ability to coach.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2017, 10:15:23 AM »
It’s easy to know he’s a good ST coach because that’s his job and the numbers bear it out. I’m not comfortable hiring someone who is such an uncertainty as potential HC though. Since the same staff has been around him so long, I don’t think there is any real way to tell how he would do if given control.

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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2017, 10:20:04 AM »
Sean stays at Special Teams; Tate for HC.

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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2017, 10:40:19 AM »
if Tate was like really good, we'd have him for like the next 50-60 years

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2017, 11:02:40 AM »
Bill gets what he wants. Sean is the next HC. It doesn't much matter what we think. Just prepare for this guys.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2017, 11:09:26 AM »
IF Sean wanted to be a HC, he should have left for a job elsehwere for a couple of years as a DC or OC so he could come home.

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2017, 11:23:18 AM »
If Bill truly believed that Sean is the best coach on his staff, he would have promoted him to offensive or defensive coordinator by now.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2017, 11:31:55 AM »
Meh. Why? You've got the best special teams coordinator in the country on your sidelines. Why eff with that?

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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2017, 11:49:46 AM »
Just because its rare (especially in college), doesn't mean it can't work. John Harbaugh only had STC roles before becoming a head coach. The Chief's STC Dave Toub was interviewed by multiple teams for HC spots and has only been a ST guy.

Guys like Marv Levy, Dick Vermeil, Bill Cohwer, & Bill Belichick did have short OC/DC roles, but came up mainly as ST guys.

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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2017, 12:34:03 PM »
don't forget Frank Gansz - the special teams coach the Chiefs promoted to HC when they fired John Makovic -  he went 8 - 22 -1

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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2017, 01:00:51 PM »
Just because its rare (especially in college), doesn't mean it can't work. John Harbaugh only had STC roles before becoming a head coach. The Chief's STC Dave Toub was interviewed by multiple teams for HC spots and has only been a ST guy.

Guys like Marv Levy, Dick Vermeil, Bill Cohwer, & Bill Belichick did have short OC/DC roles, but came up mainly as ST guys.

so why has this not happened at college football? Are we to believe Bill is truly that much smarter than every single AD in the country and that 9 seasons as a Special Teams coach and 14 years working in an administrative role makes him the best hire K-State can make?

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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2017, 01:02:59 PM »
Just because its rare (especially in college), doesn't mean it can't work. John Harbaugh only had STC roles before becoming a head coach. The Chief's STC Dave Toub was interviewed by multiple teams for HC spots and has only been a ST guy.

Guys like Marv Levy, Dick Vermeil, Bill Cohwer, & Bill Belichick did have short OC/DC roles, but came up mainly as ST guys.

so why has this not happened at college football? Are we to believe Bill is truly that much smarter than every single AD in the country and that 9 seasons as a Special Teams coach and 14 years working in an administrative role makes him the best hire K-State can make?

No one said that. I certainly didn't and that wasn't my point.

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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2017, 01:06:13 PM »
Just because its rare (especially in college), doesn't mean it can't work. John Harbaugh only had STC roles before becoming a head coach. The Chief's STC Dave Toub was interviewed by multiple teams for HC spots and has only been a ST guy.

Guys like Marv Levy, Dick Vermeil, Bill Cohwer, & Bill Belichick did have short OC/DC roles, but came up mainly as ST guys.

so why has this not happened at college football? Are we to believe Bill is truly that much smarter than every single AD in the country and that 9 seasons as a Special Teams coach and 14 years working in an administrative role makes him the best hire K-State can make?

No one said that. I certainly didn't and that wasn't my point.

fair, i shouldn't have tried to put that on you but even if i change that statement to "makes him a succesful hire" i stand by it.

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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2017, 01:09:03 PM »
if Sean were to become a good, not even great head coach at K-State that would be the first time in major college sports a son takes over for his dad and is successful and the first P5 football HC to be successful with only special teams experience.

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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2017, 01:11:25 PM »
I think consistently good st play shows a tremendous attention to detail and focus.  Good teaching ability too.  It’s not just lining up more talented people.


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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2017, 01:18:46 PM »
I think consistently good st play shows a tremendous attention to detail and focus.  Good teaching ability too.  It’s not just lining up more talented people.


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isn't the fun old talking point about how k-state plays their starters on ST contradictory to your not lining up more talented people statement?

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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2017, 01:32:16 PM »
I think consistently good st play shows a tremendous attention to detail and focus.  Good teaching ability too.  It’s not just lining up more talented people.


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isn't the fun old talking point about how k-state plays their starters on ST contradictory to your not lining up more talented people statement?

I don't think they we really do though. We have skilled returners (like everyone else), but the guys getting tackles against returns usually aren't starters.

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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2017, 01:45:04 PM »
I think consistently good st play shows a tremendous attention to detail and focus.  Good teaching ability too.  It’s not just lining up more talented people.


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isn't the fun old talking point about how k-state plays their starters on ST contradictory to your not lining up more talented people statement?

I don't think they we really do though. We have skilled returners (like everyone else), but the guys getting tackles against returns usually aren't starters.

you're probably right, but i hear that talking point like 4 times a season so i was just being an ass.