Bossi talks to Meek about Frank's recruiting philosophy

[sys]

Remember when i was hoping for a Gibson, Boatright, Williams and Harrison class?  That class would be outstanding now.

pipe dream, the staff has never overrecruited in the fall.  if they take a fourth, it'll be a spring scrub/transfer.


williams, ar-t & harrison is the realists' fall dream class of current mentions.*




* - is there enough recruiting traffic to support a: "take a big or don't in 2011" thread?

[ChiComCat]

Fit:

Ell Roberson III runs a QB draw 15 times a game and opponents are annihilated.


Anyone here watch Cat football?

Wasn't Ell Roberson pretty highly rated and crap

[steve dave]

* - is there enough recruiting traffic to support a: "take a big or don't in 2011" thread?

I say yes

[michigancat]

whiffs:

Gilbert
Awaji
Ron
Irving (yes, Irving)
Russell
Herrerra

That's 2 whiffs per class.  Which I guess isn't terrible.  Most are spring guys, and Russell was option B after Burks got Bz'd.

[steve dave]

whiffs:

Gilbert
Awaji
Ron
Irving (yes, Irving)
Russell
Herrerra

That's 2 whiffs per class.  Which I guess isn't terrible.  Most are spring guys, and Russell was option B after Burks got Bz'd.

I think the fact that they told Fred to hit the road has to make him a whiff too.

[yosh]

whiffs:

Gilbert
Awaji
Ron
Irving (yes, Irving)
Russell
Herrerra

That's 2 whiffs per class.  Which I guess isn't terrible.  Most are spring guys, and Russell was option B after Burks got Bz'd.

lol at Michigancat thinking somebody is going to debate him on Irving.  Real contraversial call there Rusty.

[PoetWarrior]

Fit:

Ell Roberson III runs a QB draw 15 times a game and opponents are annihilated.


Anyone here watch Cat football?

Wasn't Ell Roberson pretty highly rated and crap

Would equate to 145-190 in basketball.

[kso_FAN]

whiffs:

Gilbert
Awaji
Ron
Irving (yes, Irving)
Russell
Herrerra

That's 2 whiffs per class.  Which I guess isn't terrible.  Most are spring guys, and Russell was option B after Burks got Bz'd.

I wouldn't call Russell a whiff.  Not necessarily bigtime, but not a whiff.  I'd say he's a better recruit than Brown was when we signed him.

[michigancat]

whiffs:

Gilbert
Awaji
Ron
Irving (yes, Irving)
Russell
Herrerra

That's 2 whiffs per class.  Which I guess isn't terrible.  Most are spring guys, and Russell was option B after Burks got Bz'd.

I think the fact that they told Fred to hit the road has to make him a whiff too.

No, that was just them being dipshits.  Not really a recruiting whiff.  If they didn't think Irving was hot crap, they wouldn't have run him off.

lol at Michigancat thinking somebody is going to debate him on Irving.  Real contraversial call there Rusty.

KSU fans love Irving for some reason.  I think he gets spared from deserved criticism more than any KSU player in recent memory.

[Dr Rick Daris]

KSU fans love Irving for some reason.  I think he gets spared from deserved criticism more than any KSU player in recent memory.

 

[kso_FAN]

KSU fans love Irving for some reason.  I think he gets spared from deserved criticism more than any KSU player in recent memory.

Don't love Irving, but don't hate him either.  He's not going to be a star, but for whatever reason the staff likes him and he's going to play as long as he's at K-State.

[michigancat]

KSU fans love Irving for some reason.  I think he gets spared from deserved criticism more than any KSU player in recent memory.

Don't love Irving, but don't hate him either.  He's not going to be a star, but for whatever reason the staff likes him and he's going to play as long as he's at K-State.

See, this is what I'm talking about.  He deserves more hate.  Maybe he will add some "dipsy-doo" type moves next year that will get the hate of him from all EMAWs to an acceptable level.

[steve dave]

No, that was just them being dipshits.  Not really a recruiting whiff.  If they didn't think Irving was hot crap, they wouldn't have run him off.

semantics I guess.  

[kso_FAN]

No, that was just them being dipshits.  Not really a recruiting whiff.  If they didn't think Irving was hot crap, they wouldn't have run him off.

semantics I guess. 

Yeah.  I think they really didn't like Brown or Anderson.  May have been a mistake on their part, but I don't think it was as much about replacing them as it was getting them out.

[chum1]

KSU fans love Irving for some reason.  I think he gets spared from deserved criticism more than any KSU player in recent memory.

Don't love Irving, but don't hate him either.  He's not going to be a star, but for whatever reason the staff likes him and he's going to play as long as he's at K-State.

Beggars can't be choosers.  We have no one that can handle the ball beyond him and Pullen.  And Pullen really isn't that great at it.  That's sufficient reason not to hate him.

[michigancat]

No, that was just them being dipshits.  Not really a recruiting whiff.  If they didn't think Irving was hot crap, they wouldn't have run him off.

semantics I guess. 

We can call them both whiffs IMO.  I'm also fine with blaming Huggins for thinking we should sign Brown* and slow play Marcus Thornton**. 

*La-Monroe Warhawk
**NBA player

[Dr Rick Daris]

i really don't follow college basketball much. which teams have recruited only really good players that have all worked out over the past five years ?

[kso_FAN]

No, that was just them being dipshits.  Not really a recruiting whiff.  If they didn't think Irving was hot crap, they wouldn't have run him off.

semantics I guess.  

We can call them both whiffs IMO.  I'm also fine with blaming Huggins for thinking we should sign Brown* and slow play Marcus Thornton**.  

*La-Monroe Warhawk
**NBA player

I agree with that.  

All indications were that Thornton was wainting on us in the fall, though I don't think it was he or Brown.  Its just as likely we waited b/c we were wasting our time with Tyree.

[steve dave]

i really don't follow college basketball much. which teams have recruited only really good players that have all worked out over the past five years ?

Kentucky?

[yosh]

CM was a whiff.   

[michigancat]

i really don't follow college basketball much. which teams have recruited only really good players that have all worked out over the past five years ?

None?  

[Dr Rick Daris]

i really don't follow college basketball much. which teams have recruited only really good players that have all worked out over the past five years ?

None? 

hmmmm. just re-read the thread and i'm not really sure where i was going with that. sorry.

[yosh]

KSU fans love Irving for some reason.  I think he gets spared from deserved criticism more than any KSU player in recent memory.

Don't love Irving, but don't hate him either.  He's not going to be a star, but for whatever reason the staff likes him and he's going to play as long as he's at K-State.

Beggars can't be choosers.  We have no one that can handle the ball beyond him and Pullen.  And Pullen really isn't that great at it.  That's sufficient reason not to hate him.

Irving can't handle the ball.

[michigancat]

i really don't follow college basketball much. which teams have recruited only really good players that have all worked out over the past five years ?

None? 

hmmmm. just re-read the thread and i'm not really sure where i was going with that. sorry.

no problem.  As you know, even the most elite posters make mistakes, and the elitest admit it. I hated the Frank Martin hire for like 24 hours (fatty still makes fun), but I admit I was wrong.  That's what makes us the elitest, rick daris.

[CNS]

KSU fans love Irving for some reason.  I think he gets spared from deserved criticism more than any KSU player in recent memory.

Don't love Irving, but don't hate him either.  He's not going to be a star, but for whatever reason the staff likes him and he's going to play as long as he's at K-State.

Beggars can't be choosers.  We have no one that can handle the ball beyond him and Pullen.  And Pullen really isn't that great at it.  That's sufficient reason not to hate him.

Irving can't handle the ball.

Not any better than Russell, anyway.  Both are less than average at it so far, imo.  I have no faith, from what I have seen to date, that Russell or Irving will make a steady PG this year.