Taxes (GOP 2017 edition)

[OK_Cat]

we should raise TF out of the gas taxes. And this is coming from someone who irl puts 50k miles a year on two vehicles (and has several dozen kids)


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Is this 50k per vehicle, or total?  Consider yourself under bbs oath


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[Cire]

I took it as 25k per vehicle FWIW

[michigancat]

I noticed virtually no change from last year to this year.

I thought one side said trump saved the middle class and the other side said trump would screw the middle class?

Second biggest lie in this thread, just behind SD and his stable of lies.


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Judging from the responses here, it clearly benefited the rich.

[steve dave]

we should raise TF out of the gas taxes. And this is coming from someone who irl puts 50k miles a year on two vehicles (and has several dozen kids)


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Is this 50k per vehicle, or total?  Consider yourself under bbs oath


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Total. And it’s irl.


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[OK_Cat]

So you’re telling me that Mrs Dave and your brood are sitting in the car for an average 69 miles per day everyday, while you’re in car #2 also cruising an average of 69 miles per day, AND posting 300 times per day on gE?

SHITS NOT ADDING UP


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[star seed 7]

I believe sd

[OK_Cat]

He’s already lied twice (TWICE!) in this thread.

It’s time that gE finally puts SD in his place


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[Cire]

I think a major point of contention is the definition of "middle class"

I would put middle class as family of 4 earning 100-200k per year, and that's really only thinking in the KC area because that's where I live.

Thoughts?

[star seed 7]

Median household income in the US is like $50k

[8manpick]

Median household income in the US is like $50k

More like $60k

[8manpick]

I think a major point of contention is the definition of "middle class"

I would put middle class as family of 4 earning 100-200k per year, and that's really only thinking in the KC area because that's where I live.

Thoughts?

This is a little old, but no...

[star seed 7]

Median household income in the US is like $50k

More like $60k

You're correct

[mocat]

I would put middle class as family of 4 earning 100-200k per year

you, cire, are out of touch

[steve dave]

So you’re telling me that Mrs Dave and your brood are sitting in the car for an average 69 miles per day everyday, while you’re in car #2 also cruising an average of 69 miles per day, AND posting 300 times per day on gE?

SHITS NOT ADDING UP


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yes, not equally though.

[steve dave]

I think a major point of contention is the definition of "middle class"

I would put middle class as family of 4 earning 100-200k per year, and that's really only thinking in the KC area because that's where I live.

Thoughts?

middle class is a very wide band. and then if you throw in lower-middle and upper-middle you get even wider. iirc upper-middle goes up to like $350k and lower-middle as low as like $30k. and then if you define it by specific area (like what percentile for your city) you can make it a moving target.

[8manpick]

If you use dumb definitions of middle class like that, the term is completely meaningless

[8manpick]

“I’m just an every day normal average middle class family, who happenings to be in the 95th percentile for income”

[star seed 7]

The 95th percentile has a closer lifestyle to the 50th than the 99th. That makes the middle class hard to define.

[steve dave]

“I’m just an every day normal average middle class family, who happenings to be in the 95th percentile for income”

I think upper middle class goes to around the 98th percent

[steve dave]

The 95th percentile has a closer lifestyle to the 50th than the 99th. That makes the middle class hard to define.

yes, and the fact that the top 0.1% makes such an extraordinarily greater income than even the 0.5% let alone the 1% makes the ranges look silly. You could break down the top 1% into about 5 different ranges in itself. and then you have to consider that this is measuring income and not wealth.

[8manpick]

Then it’s a completely meaningless classification. I don’t know why people are so loath to admit that they are

[8manpick]

It’s like a 6’8” guy claiming to be of slightly above average height

[michigancat]

My lifestyle is wildly different from someone who makes $50k in the Bay Area. But I definitely do more cool crap than the 99th percentile. so

[mocat]

It’s like a 6’8” guy claiming to be of slightly above average height

disclaimer: I AGREE WITH YOU

but your analogy would only be applicable if 1% of the population was like 40 feet tall

[Cire]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_the_United_States

Middle class (plurality/
majority?; ca. 46%)   College-educated workers with considerably higher-than-average incomes and compensation; a man making $57,000 and a woman making $40,000 may be typical.