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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #150 on: May 29, 2018, 10:03:59 AM »
But Clinton!

Selective outrage.  LOL at the Tweet Deletions yesterday . 

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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #151 on: May 29, 2018, 10:25:45 AM »
Just admit you got confused (old age, etc.) and thought that guy was elian's father. It's ok to admit you're wrong.
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #152 on: May 29, 2018, 10:57:30 AM »
Just admit you got confused (old age, etc.) and thought that guy was elian's father. It's ok to admit you're wrong.

Parent was a mis-speak, but the principal remains the same.   Yet another Lib unilateral decision making AG sent in the storm troopers in the middle of negotiations.

 

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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #153 on: May 29, 2018, 11:17:29 AM »
When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"

Dax's whataboutism is getting worse

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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #154 on: May 29, 2018, 11:30:41 AM »
When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"

Dax's whataboutism is getting worse

What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi?   There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border.   Is that a good situation?   Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing?   Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.   

We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another.   Great policy.


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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #155 on: May 29, 2018, 11:34:59 AM »
When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"

Dax's whataboutism is getting worse

What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi?   There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border.   Is that a good situation?   Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing?   Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.   

We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another.   Great policy.

yeah, that's the obvious (and only) alternative to splitting up families.  :rolleyes:

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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #156 on: May 29, 2018, 11:36:13 AM »
When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"

Dax's whataboutism is getting worse

What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi?   There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border.   Is that a good situation?   Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing?   Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.   

We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another.   Great policy.

yeah, that's the obvious (and only) alternative to splitting up families.  :rolleyes:

The best alternative is don't cross the border illegally.


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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #157 on: May 29, 2018, 11:44:00 AM »
When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"

Dax's whataboutism is getting worse

What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi?   There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border.   Is that a good situation?   Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing?   Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.   

We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another.   Great policy.

yeah, that's the obvious (and only) alternative to splitting up families.  :rolleyes:

The best alternative is don't cross the border illegally.

yes that's a great (and totally sensical) alternative on how the US gov't should process a family that has crossed the border illegally.

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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #158 on: May 29, 2018, 11:49:55 AM »
When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"

Dax's whataboutism is getting worse

What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi?   There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border.   Is that a good situation?   Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing?   Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.   

We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another.   Great policy.

yeah, that's the obvious (and only) alternative to splitting up families.  :rolleyes:

The best alternative is don't cross the border illegally.

yes that's a great (and totally sensical) alternative on how the US gov't should process a family that has crossed the border illegally.

The adults in the family committed a felony.   When you're apprehended in the commission of an aggravated felony on the Federal level as a U.S. citizen, are you automatically allowed to just hang with your family?


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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #159 on: May 29, 2018, 12:01:01 PM »
which aggravated felony (please designate A through U) has a family committed by crossing the border? If a felony has been committed, that's one thing but the trump directive is to treat ALL children who have crossed the border as though they have crossed the border alone.

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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #160 on: May 29, 2018, 12:18:36 PM »
which aggravated felony (please designate A through U) has a family committed by crossing the border? If a felony has been committed, that's one thing but the trump directive is to treat ALL children who have crossed the border as though they have crossed the border alone.


Attempting to avoid U.S. immigration process and law to enter the United States is considered a crime against the State.   As I understand it, an adult engaged in evading U.S. immigration law who attempts to bring minors (or anyone for that matter) into the United States in the process, is classified as a smuggler.




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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #161 on: May 29, 2018, 12:23:37 PM »
When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"

Dax's whataboutism is getting worse

What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi?   There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border.   Is that a good situation?   Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing?   Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.   

We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another.   Great policy.

If you don't want our border thrown open to children, you should be pissed.  This complete and utter mismanagement just made us caretakers for 1,500 kids.  Trump may surprise me but I doubt we will just dump these kids on a street corner in Juarez.


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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #162 on: May 29, 2018, 12:27:06 PM »
When you hear 1500 kids are separated from their parents, the only appropriate response is "remember when Clinton separated that one child from his family 18 years ago"

Dax's whataboutism is getting worse

What happens when you essentially throw the border open to Children, chi?   There's going to be (well there already has been) people who for all matter of thinking, shove their kid out the door to head to the border.   Is that a good situation?   Is having a border free-for-all and/or constantly sending mixed signals a good thing?   Also, smuggling people across the border has been an aggravated felony for a very long time.   

We had a previous administration that deported people like crazy on one side, and essentially invited them in on another.   Great policy.

If you don't want our border thrown open to children, you should be pissed.  This complete and utter mismanagement just made us caretakers for 1,500 kids.  Trump may surprise me but I doubt we will just dump these kids on a street corner in Juarez.

So these scenarios have never occurred until now?  I wonder where those pictures came from?




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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #163 on: May 29, 2018, 12:33:48 PM »
But Clinton!

Selective outrage.  LOL at the Tweet Deletions yesterday .

I think you have me confused with someone else.  Unless you are just generally making the post about Hillary Clinton again.

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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #164 on: May 29, 2018, 12:41:02 PM »
But Clinton!

Selective outrage.  LOL at the Tweet Deletions yesterday .

I think you have me confused with someone else.  Unless you are just generally making the post about Hillary Clinton again.

I think you believe that this situation has never occurred before.


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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #165 on: May 29, 2018, 01:43:01 PM »
which aggravated felony (please designate A through U) has a family committed by crossing the border? If a felony has been committed, that's one thing but the trump directive is to treat ALL children who have crossed the border as though they have crossed the border alone.


Attempting to avoid U.S. immigration process and law to enter the United States is considered a crime against the State.   As I understand it, an adult engaged in evading U.S. immigration law who attempts to bring minors (or anyone for that matter) into the United States in the process, is classified as a smuggler.

for someone who has not been previously deported, unlawful presence is not a crime, not a felony, and certainly not an aggravated felony like you tried to assert.

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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #166 on: May 29, 2018, 02:06:09 PM »
guys quit squabbling about a couple thousand terrified children ripped from there families in a new land

the new colossus was written by a liberal amirite???




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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #167 on: May 29, 2018, 04:01:03 PM »
which aggravated felony (please designate A through U) has a family committed by crossing the border? If a felony has been committed, that's one thing but the trump directive is to treat ALL children who have crossed the border as though they have crossed the border alone.


Attempting to avoid U.S. immigration process and law to enter the United States is considered a crime against the State.   As I understand it, an adult engaged in evading U.S. immigration law who attempts to bring minors (or anyone for that matter) into the United States in the process, is classified as a smuggler.

for someone who has not been previously deported, unlawful presence is not a crime, not a felony, and certainly not an aggravated felony like you tried to assert.

We're talking about the act of bringing minors (or anyone) into the country illegally.   That is classified as human smuggling by our laws, human smuggling is illegal.




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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #168 on: May 29, 2018, 04:11:53 PM »
So, is it a new policy or not?

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In a speech before law-enforcement officials in Arizona on Monday, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that the federal government seeks to separate parents from their children at the U.S.-Mexico border in an effort to discourage more crossings.

The Los Angeles Times reports that the policy officially went into effect last week, though hundreds of children have already been taken from their parents in recent months.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/trump-administration-to-separate-parents-children-at-border.html

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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #169 on: May 29, 2018, 04:17:15 PM »
Maybe don't try to come into this country illegally and you won't have your family ripped apart.
Go through the proper channels, become a citizen, pay taxes, etc. and then you'll be able to teach your kid about baseball, apple pie, and blowing crap up on the 4th of July.
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« Reply #170 on: May 29, 2018, 04:25:40 PM »
If these people had a legal way to enter the country, they would probably be doing that.

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« Reply #171 on: May 29, 2018, 04:25:51 PM »
WWJD?

Jeremiah 7:5-7 New International Version (NIV)
If you really change your ways and your actions and deal with each other justly, if you do not oppress the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow and do not shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not follow other gods to your own harm, then I will let you live in this place, in the land I gave your ancestors for ever and ever...

unless they came illegally then, in that instance tear apart there families in a most unorganized fashion.

the word of the lord

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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #172 on: May 29, 2018, 04:28:52 PM »
Over 3 million people got deported by your hero Lick, you must have been outraged.


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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #173 on: May 29, 2018, 04:30:42 PM »
biggest change i can see from Obama to Trump is that now Dax is seemingly unable to be critical of any federal policy

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Re: What Has Changed? Obama to Trump
« Reply #174 on: May 29, 2018, 04:36:36 PM »
biggest change i can see from Obama to Trump is that now Dax is seemingly unable to be critical of any federal policy

cpu just spits out yeah but's now

I am against a federal policy which tells people to come to the border, and then apprehends them and deports them.   I am also against hidden policies which purposely tells our border enforcers not to apprehend certain illegal crossers. 

In one year alone your hero deported 72K people who claimed they had U.S. born children.   Why didn't your hero think of the children?  Why was there no cataclysmic LibBot outrage, the situation was after all right there in plan sight?