Author Topic: the coming debt limit war (Read 3748 times)

Spracne · « **Reply #25 on:** May 25, 2023, 07:17:36 PM »

Never go full Revolver.

steve dave · « **Reply #26 on:** May 25, 2023, 07:29:09 PM »

I love how the market just calls their bluff every day no matter what they say/do. like the bond market calling jerome's bluff all day every day. so pure.

sys · « **Reply #27 on:** May 25, 2023, 07:47:50 PM »

Quote from: CNS on May 25, 2023, 05:08:59 PM

if he McCarthy votes for the ceiling, they will most likely recall him and he will most likely lose his speakership.

anything is possible, but this doesn't look likely at the moment. the republican caucus appears to be pretty united and content with how mccarthy is negotiating. the freedom caucus will vote against the deal, but be willing to see it pass with dem votes.

sys · « **Reply #28 on:** May 26, 2023, 05:13:44 PM »

Quote from: Cire on May 01, 2023, 07:24:38 PM

I just can’t fathom they won’t cut a deal

appears to have nailed it. not much drama this iteration.

DaBigTrain · « **Reply #29 on:** May 26, 2023, 05:23:07 PM »

Fire up the money printer again

sys · « **Reply #30 on:** May 27, 2023, 09:38:07 PM »

mccarthy deserves some credit, i think. when he needed like 140 rounds to be elected speaker people were saying he'd be the weakest speaker in history and beholden to the freedom caucus. instead, it looks like he's gonna deliver the majority of his caucus for a no-drama, super ordinary deal and the freedom caucus isn't going to do anything more than whine to the press.

https://twitter.com/Brian_Riedl/status/1662636686000414721

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #31 on:** May 27, 2023, 09:47:57 PM »

Just money (until we say otherwise, when it’s politically expedient to say otherwise)

steve dave · « **Reply #32 on:** May 28, 2023, 07:10:52 AM »

Quote from: sys on May 27, 2023, 09:38:07 PM

mccarthy deserves some credit, i think. when he needed like 140 rounds to be elected speaker people were saying he'd be the weakest speaker in history and beholden to the freedom caucus. instead, it looks like he's gonna deliver the majority of his caucus for a no-drama, super ordinary deal and the freedom caucus isn't going to do anything more than whine to the press.

https://twitter.com/Brian_Riedl/status/1662636686000414721

Yeah, agree. Nicely done.

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Cire · « **Reply #33 on:** May 28, 2023, 08:17:32 AM »

Joes got that centrist soft spot for the other side of the aisle

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bucket · « **Reply #34 on:** May 30, 2023, 12:04:51 PM »

I feel bad about how much I’m enjoying the MAGA tears surrounding the debt deal.

wetwillie · « **Reply #35 on:** May 30, 2023, 12:07:38 PM »

Did we cut the military budget to avoid default?

sys · « **Reply #36 on:** May 30, 2023, 04:05:09 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on May 30, 2023, 12:07:38 PM

Did we cut the military budget to avoid default?

no, we're good.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #37 on:** May 30, 2023, 04:11:29 PM »

Quote from: bucket on May 30, 2023, 12:04:51 PM

I feel bad about how much I’m enjoying the MAGA tears surrounding the debt deal.

that's pretty mean, I am a mess over here. can't stop blubbering

MakeItRain · « **Reply #38 on:** May 31, 2023, 01:46:25 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on May 30, 2023, 12:07:38 PM

Did we cut the military budget to avoid default?

yeah right

wetwillie · « **Reply #39 on:** May 31, 2023, 02:05:01 PM »

sys · « **Reply #40 on:** May 31, 2023, 08:52:37 PM »

more of a feel good, common grounder than a war.

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1664080912999497730

sys · « **Reply #41 on:** September 19, 2023, 01:14:27 PM »

it's time to rekindle the previously kindled discussion of the house republican caucus not being able to pass the most basic goddamned bills known to man.

the current version is to shutdown the govt, which seems pretty likely to happen at the end of the month.

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1704111043394273682

sys · « **Reply #42 on:** September 21, 2023, 02:23:34 PM »

even rule votes getting shredded by the freedom caucus. i think the idea that some of them want mccarthy's head has some merit.

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1704883639266230418

sys · « **Reply #43 on:** September 21, 2023, 02:26:03 PM »

context.

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1704934729441796329

steve dave · « **Reply #44 on:** September 21, 2023, 02:30:10 PM »

Boehner and Pelosi could absolutely not be mumped with. Complete domination of their underlings.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #45 on:** September 21, 2023, 02:37:46 PM »

I think a lot of the old tricks like kicking people off committees or taking away funding from their districts don’t work anymore because from the tea party on those people wear it as a badge of honor.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #46 on:** September 21, 2023, 02:44:26 PM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on September 21, 2023, 02:37:46 PM

I think a lot of the old tricks like kicking people off committees or taking away funding from their districts don’t work anymore because from the tea party on those people wear it as a badge of honor.

The problem is that a block of 4 people can stop McCarthy from doing anything. So if he kicks someone off of a committee or defunds a district, that person has to have fewer than 3 friends.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #47 on:** September 21, 2023, 11:25:36 PM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on September 21, 2023, 02:37:46 PM

I think a lot of the old tricks like kicking people off committees or taking away funding from their districts don’t work anymore because from the tea party on those people wear it as a badge of honor.

He also had to make a deal to completely neuter himself before he won the speaker vote. This was inevitable.