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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2017, 02:41:25 AM »
I think oscar has done a great job finding under recruited talent but has done an awful job coaching them to their potential. He's now 5 for 5 at K-State with not getting everything out of his team that was there.
Eh he did pretty good Foster's first year. But for the most part I agree

Yeah, I just looked at that roster again, it wasn't very good.
I forgot they still had nino, gip, southwell, and spradling. That's an ok group of upperclassmen when paired with Foster.

I don't look fondly at that group of upperclassmen at all. My initial thought was that Gip was a bell cow for that team but he only averaged 11 & 5. I feel like we complained about how soft that group of upperclassmen got.

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2017, 06:43:51 AM »
I think oscar has done a great job finding under recruited talent but has done an awful job coaching them to their potential. He's now 5 for 5 at K-State with not getting everything out of his team that was there.
Eh he did pretty good Foster's first year. But for the most part I agree

Yeah, I just looked at that roster again, it wasn't very good.
I forgot they still had nino, gip, southwell, and spradling. That's an ok group of upperclassmen when paired with Foster.

I don't look fondly at that group of upperclassmen at all. My initial thought was that Gip was a bell cow for that team but he only averaged 11 & 5. I feel like we complained about how soft that group of upperclassmen got.
Yes we did.


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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2017, 08:07:23 AM »
I think oscar has done a great job finding under recruited talent but has done an awful job coaching them to their potential. He's now 5 for 5 at K-State with not getting everything out of his team that was there.

This team being ranked 29th in kenpom with their lack of depth and lack of play maker isn't bad. Probably better than average.

I don't know what better than average is, but I know oscar's record in close games are absolutely awful which means he isn't taking advantage of the team's talent.
6-7 in close games.  :dunno: 
Ever coach approaches 500 in the long run in close games. Now how they do it could be more complex.
http://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Kansas+St.

So I looked at his five years here because I was talking about his program, not just this season. He's 5 games below .500 in his five years here which isn't terrible at all. The disturbing trend is that 5 out our 7 close losses this were because of a late game collapse of some sort, like this http://kenpom.com/winprob.php?g=5524 and the Weber era is filled with these type of games. Meanwhile none of our close wins were the result of a late comeback, we held on to win them all. I'm sure we have a couple in the last five years but I can't remember a single one, a lot of these though

http://kenpom.com/winprob.php?g=5214&y=2013
http://kenpom.com/winprob.php?g=122&y=2014
The gold standard http://kenpom.com/box.php?g=2062&y=2015

It feels that way for sure. It hard for me to keep track it by memory. I do think some of the games in 2015 big 12 play we stole. Like the ISU, KU, @OU and the OU game. But the winning probabilities are all going to be bias because of how crap poor that team was on the road. It will make it look like they came back from behind because kenpom didn't believe in them.

There is also something to be said about having a player that can takeover a game late. Like Foster.

i liked that in the middle of our collapse they cut to foster ripping out xavier's heart

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2017, 08:41:34 PM »
Good grief Kam  :Yuck:

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2017, 09:25:42 PM »
I keep thinking he'll stop sucking so bad, but, he doesn't. And that's bad in my opinion.
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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2017, 09:39:13 PM »
I really liked him earlier this season
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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2017, 09:39:47 PM »
I keep thinking he'll stop sucking so bad, but, he doesn't. And that's bad in my opinion.

yeah, like i was pretty comfortable with him halfway thru big 12 play. now he's to point it's so bad it's like the yips

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2017, 09:42:33 PM »
HES HEATING UP

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2017, 09:48:18 PM »
I like him again.
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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2017, 10:21:55 PM »
where you at now haters

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2017, 10:28:57 PM »
Mushed me with that 3

Still not sure I'd trust him with 10s left tho

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2017, 10:38:10 PM »
The way he started this game tho, finished very well, but my god that first half was horrible
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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2017, 10:38:36 PM »
Total night and day ...His 1st and 2nd halves

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2017, 10:39:15 PM »
We're about to lose

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2017, 10:39:34 PM »
you wanna see a joke posse? look in the mirror bro

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2017, 10:40:53 PM »
Stokes is my guy.
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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2017, 10:41:32 PM »
Deathbite!!

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2017, 10:41:45 PM »
5 threes

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2017, 10:41:54 PM »
crap u guys.   We aren't out of the woods yet

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2017, 10:41:56 PM »
bunter eat it loser

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2017, 10:53:11 PM »
Sorry I was experiencing that post-win testosterone boost. 

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2017, 10:56:54 PM »
cocky sharpshooting deathbite is best deathbite

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Re: Kam was a JOKE
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2017, 11:14:49 PM »
you wanna see a joke posse? look in the mirror bro

Great 2nd half by him. Hit some big shots. But his 1st half mirrored his last 5-6 weeks. Not very good.
Hope the good Kam shows up again Friday. We need him