Is it fair for Transgenders to compete in sports as who they think they are? No

[sonofdaxjones]

Well they completely determine how to run their competition and don’t seem at all apologetic about a trans person winning. Why do you think that is?

Because they understand the ramifications of not going along


My FLM you are so obtuse

[catastrophe]

What is an example of an organizing body who was punished for “not going along”?

[sonofdaxjones]

What is an example of an organizing body who was punished for “not going along”?

You’ve seen the actions towards individuals and women’s (cis of course) groups when they don’t go along. So what will change for any “organizing body” if they don’t go along?

Answer: Nothing

[catastrophe]

What is an example of an organizing body who was punished for “not going along”?

You’ve seen the actions towards individuals and women’s (cis of course) groups when they don’t go along. So what will change for any “organizing body” if they don’t go along?

Answer: Nothing

This is from the link you posted:

On their website, the Chicago CrossCup said they welcome transgender athletes and that they follow USA Cycling’s Transgender Athlete Participation policies, which allows participants in non-elite races to self-select their gender.

So it sure seems like USA Cycling is “not going along” in elite races without much blowback.

[sonofdaxjones]

Haa there been any trans women attempt to compete in elite races?

[BIG APPLE CAT]

In fairness, now that I’m aware there’s an opportunity to win $150…I’m seriously considering changing genders…

[sonofdaxjones]

#blueanon deflectocon theater rolled in hard on this one. 

[BIG APPLE CAT]

USAC is basically out here incentivizing men to become women. Actually, no, incentivizing isn’t the right word. They’re making it fiscally irresponsible for any man who knows how to ride a bike not to become a woman.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yes, my entire take has been centered around the financial aspect of all of this. Brilliant analysis BAC

You're in full blown deflectocon mode 

[Dugout DickStone]

Trumpers keeping their eye on important issues.  Explains their success at the polls and not at all getting humiliated at midterms

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Yes, my entire take has been centered around the financial aspect of all of this. Brilliant analysis BAC

You're in full blown deflectocon mode 

Just for my own Dacian edification…is deflectocon a play on decepticon like from Transformers or is it con as in convention like a convention of deflectos?

[Cartierfor3]

The last couple pages are a great example of why I can't pit. No one is actually debating or stating a position. Good grief you guys are obsessed with Dax.

[Spracne]

The last couple pages are a great example of why I can't pit. No one is actually debating or stating a position. Good grief you guys are obsessed with Dax.

Feel free to leave, then. But thanks for stopping by. With Wacky gone, the pit is almost exclusively for dax arguing incoherently with like every other poster (although I have him on ignore and try not to directly engage with him).

[Cartierfor3]

The last couple pages are a great example of why I can't pit. No one is actually debating or stating a position. Good grief you guys are obsessed with Dax.

Feel free to leave, then. But thanks for stopping by. With Wacky gone, the pit is almost exclusively for dax arguing incoherently with like every other poster (although I have him on ignore and try not to directly engage with him).

Good call. I'll stick to the Chiefs thread. Enjoy Dax and Lib7 chasing each other around like school girls all day.

[michigancat]

The last couple pages are a great example of why I can't pit. No one is actually debating or stating a position. Good grief you guys are obsessed with Dax.

Do you have an opinion on the trans cyclists winning a couple races in Chicago?

[Trim]

The last couple pages are a great example of why I can't pit. No one is actually debating or stating a position. Good grief you guys are obsessed with Dax.

Delusional rants and unsupported claims

[Cartierfor3]

The last couple pages are a great example of why I can't pit. No one is actually debating or stating a position. Good grief you guys are obsessed with Dax.

Do you have an opinion on the trans cyclists winning a couple races in Chicago?

Sure. I don't think it's fair, regardless of outcome for men (or transwomen) to compete in an event set up for women. It looked like a niche event, so they can set it up however they like. So if I were involved in the event, I'd probably be a little angry about a women't category being won by men (or TW).

But Rusty, we probably don't agree on what defines womenhood, so I don't know how to have that discussion.

[Cartierfor3]

The last couple pages are a great example of why I can't pit. No one is actually debating or stating a position. Good grief you guys are obsessed with Dax.

Delusional rants and unsupported claims

fair enough

[michigancat]

The last couple pages are a great example of why I can't pit. No one is actually debating or stating a position. Good grief you guys are obsessed with Dax.

Do you have an opinion on the trans cyclists winning a couple races in Chicago?

Sure. I don't think it's fair, regardless of outcome for men (or transwomen) to compete in an event set up for women. It looked like a niche event, so they can set it up however they like. So if I were involved in the event, I'd probably be a little angry about a women't category being won by men (or TW).

But Rusty, we probably don't agree on what defines womenhood, so I don't know how to have that discussion.

maybe you could start by asking yourself why you care how a niche cycling event you probably had never heard of outside of anti-trans weirdo circles determines its competition eligibility? Then you don't even need to worry about how to define womanhood.

[Cartierfor3]

Read my post. I said it's a niche event they can set up however they like. I said IF I WERE INVOLVED IN IT I'd have feelings about it. The only reason I gave it my attention is because you asked my opinion of it. Good grief.

"what's your opinion about the event?"
"Doesn't seem fair"
"Maybe ask why you care about the event I brought up CF3."

[Trim]

I fully expect that in cycling, as a full-body contact sport, you’re going to get hit at some point.

[michigancat]

Read my post. I said it's a niche event they can set up however they like. I said IF I WERE INVOLVED IN IT I'd have feelings about it. The only reason I gave it my attention is because you asked my opinion of it. Good grief.

"what's your opinion about the event?"
"Doesn't seem fair"
"Maybe ask why you care about the event I brought up CF3."

You also said you didn't know how to have a discussion about it

[Cartierfor3]

Right, again, because you asked my opinion.

[wetwillie]

Look at mich and cf3 chasing each other around like school girls, smdh

[Cartierfor3]

Look at mich and cf3 chasing each other around like school girls, smdh

ha. fair enough. smell ya later.