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Re: steve henson
« Reply #50 on: February 27, 2017, 03:50:51 PM »
I only pay attention to what I need to fellas  :shy:

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #51 on: February 27, 2017, 03:55:41 PM »
no thanks.  Too Fat/weird looking.  Sheesh why couldn't he have been hoiberg

Hoiberg is much better looking, but he had much less of a career pass. NBA bounce around guy to NBA assistant to Iowa State HC.

Henson has NBA bounce around, NBA assistant, Kruger assistant (at various locales) on his resume.

I would rather wait to see Steve prove it a bit as a head coach, but if we are comparing to Hoiberg he had done nothing to think he would be good. ISU basically got lucky with him like we got lucky with Frank.

He has proven he can coach defense. There is enough data on that. At a low or mid major he is never going to prove he can be a high major roster builder. I think that is the hardest thing to do at a non blue blood in college basketball. There is only one way to find out.

He hasn't proven crap. You can't give him credit for improving the defense but give him a pass for making a bad offense worse.

Meh offense is about players.

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2017, 04:16:09 PM »
Spradling.  People liked him.  His dad was.a.coach.  He coaching at Anthony Prairie View.A&M.
I had to google this and now it makes more sense as to why I played co-ed indoor volleyball and went against him a few times this year.. Hes at Anthony middle school coaching.. Who knew? not me

He doesn't coach there. He's a girls assistant at Manhattan High and runs his own aau program.

http://ssahoops.com/

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #53 on: February 27, 2017, 04:16:46 PM »
Henson would be worse than retaining oscar. I'm not even kidding.

i think everyone can agree on that

Nope.

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #54 on: February 27, 2017, 04:33:45 PM »
Spradling.  People liked him.  His dad was.a.coach.  He coaching at Anthony Prairie View.A&M.
I had to google this and now it makes more sense as to why I played co-ed indoor volleyball and went against him a few times this year.. Hes at Anthony middle school coaching.. Who knew? not me

He doesn't coach there. He's a girls assistant at Manhattan High and runs his own aau program.

http://ssahoops.com/
are you trying to convince me that will is our aau answer Ive been asking for?!

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #55 on: February 27, 2017, 05:07:15 PM »
Compare Underwood's resume after Frank left to Henson's now.

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« Reply #56 on: February 27, 2017, 05:13:56 PM »
Compare Underwood's resume after Frank left to Henson's now.

Henson very well may be basketball Bob Stoops, I'm confused why some are convinced he's a bad coach.

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #57 on: February 27, 2017, 06:16:18 PM »
Compare Underwood's resume after Frank left to Henson's now.

Henson very well may be basketball Bob Stoops, I'm confused why some are convinced he's a bad coach.

For me it's because

1) Zero proven head coaching success
2) Does not have a reputation as an exceptional recruiter as far as I can tell (which I think should be the #1 factor for someone without head coaching success)

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #58 on: February 27, 2017, 06:17:44 PM »
Compare Underwood's resume after Frank left to Henson's now.

Henson very well may be basketball Bob Stoops, I'm confused why some are convinced he's a bad coach.

For me it's because

1) Zero proven head coaching success
2) Does not have a reputation as an exceptional recruiter as far as I can tell (which I think should be the #1 factor for someone without head coaching success)


Agreed, and well put.  Those are my concerns as well. 

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #59 on: February 27, 2017, 06:22:28 PM »
What's the maximum number of small town 5'10" Johnny Hustle 3-point specialists you could have on one team and not have it be a liability?

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« Reply #60 on: February 27, 2017, 06:24:32 PM »
I'll add that those two items don't mean he's a bad coach, it just means there is nothing distinguishing him from the hundreds of D1 assistants and low major HC's with losing records other than the fact that he was a star player at KSU.

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #61 on: February 27, 2017, 06:24:44 PM »
Compare Underwood's resume after Frank left to Henson's now.

Henson very well may be basketball Bob Stoops, I'm confused why some are convinced he's a bad coach.

This is a very bad comparison.

Coordinators are rightly or wrongly (I don't know the data to compare) viewed as much more high profile/more responsibility than an assistant in college basketball.

Part of this is probably that there are 3x as many D1 hoops jobs so mid-major head coaches get much more opportunities to move up to power 5 jobs than assistants at power 5 jobs get 1st jump to a power 5 job.

So while people have criticized Currie in the past regarding his "head coaches only" rule it makes the most sense in basketball.

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #62 on: February 27, 2017, 06:24:45 PM »
What's the maximum number of small town 5'10" Johnny Hustle 3-point specialists you could have on one team and not have it be a liability?

I want to say 3?

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #63 on: February 27, 2017, 06:25:04 PM »
Henson might be better than oscar, but it's almost as lazy of a hire.

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #64 on: February 27, 2017, 06:26:02 PM »
You know how Roy always made sure to have at least 1 Kansan on the squad, well it would be fun if Steve would do that with McPherson guys.

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #65 on: February 27, 2017, 06:27:31 PM »
I bet Currie would love to hire Henson just like Mike Alden hired Kim Anderson on his way out the door at Mizzou - "here's your boy hayseeeds, enjoy!"


This could be a real risk, actually.

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #66 on: February 27, 2017, 08:33:26 PM »
I would be devastated if we hired Steve Henson.  I can't think of a more boring hire.  Can you?

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« Reply #67 on: February 27, 2017, 08:40:08 PM »
I would be devastated if we hired Steve Henson.  I can't think of a more boring hire.  Can you?

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #68 on: February 27, 2017, 11:10:44 PM »
Compare Underwood's resume after Frank left to Henson's now.

Henson very well may be basketball Bob Stoops, I'm confused why some are convinced he's a bad coach.

For me it's because

1) Zero proven head coaching success
2) Does not have a reputation as an exceptional recruiter as far as I can tell (which I think should be the #1 factor for someone without head coaching success)

That's fair. NBA tho :excited:

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #69 on: February 28, 2017, 10:27:03 AM »
I would be devastated if we hired Steve Henson.  I can't think of a more boring hire.  Can you?

Mark Gottfried

Gottfried can at least recruit though. So we would at least have some talent to watch but would be the equivalent of watching a Travis Ford coached team.

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #70 on: February 28, 2017, 01:56:28 PM »
Spradling.  People liked him.  His dad was.a.coach.  He coaching at Anthony Prairie View.A&M.
I had to google this and now it makes more sense as to why I played co-ed indoor volleyball and went against him a few times this year.. Hes at Anthony middle school coaching.. Who knew? not me

He doesn't coach there. He's a girls assistant at Manhattan High and runs his own aau program.

http://ssahoops.com/

oddly enough people itk tell me that his father helps and all he does is yell at the kids...


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Re: steve henson
« Reply #71 on: February 28, 2017, 06:13:55 PM »
Spradling.  People liked him.  His dad was.a.coach.  He coaching at Anthony Prairie View.A&M.
I had to google this and now it makes more sense as to why I played co-ed indoor volleyball and went against him a few times this year.. Hes at Anthony middle school coaching.. Who knew? not me

He doesn't coach there. He's a girls assistant at Manhattan High and runs his own aau program.

http://ssahoops.com/

oddly enough people itk tell me that his father helps and all he does is yell at the kids...

Not at all surprising

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #72 on: February 28, 2017, 06:19:44 PM »
AJ makes that program hum.

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« Reply #73 on: February 28, 2017, 06:27:48 PM »
After _FAN posted that I figured out that me being a dick to Spradling is why AJ used to have me blocked on twitter.

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Re: steve henson
« Reply #74 on: February 28, 2017, 06:44:14 PM »
After _FAN posted that I figured out that me being a dick to Spradling is why AJ used to have me blocked on twitter.

:lol:

I know he isn't that sensitive about it, obvs.