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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2017, 09:22:40 PM »
i think mir doubled down sometime in conference play.

I actually didn't, I gave myself another out. Right before conference play started, in a prediction thread or something, I said the team is talented enough to make the tournament but I'm not sure i trusted the coaching staff. 

Please someone find that one.

I hadn't even seriously considered the possibility of this team making the tournament until MIR said it was 100% a tournament team.  He usually doesn't say crap like that lightly so I'm leaning towards believing it.

Let me couch that a bit. I think we have the talent to be a tournament team but you can make a very strong case that oscar's teams have underachieved every single year he's been here. If this team does that, we're out. I don't anticipate 4 losses to OU, Texas, Tech, and TCU but if we do we're boned because I don't think we're sweeping KU, WVU, Baylor, or OSU.

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2017, 09:25:37 PM »
I am probably a wizard.  I predicted oscar's future as soon as it was announced that we hired him.  I wish I could tell you "I wish I had been wrong," but I have really enjoyed being right about this.

Good call bud, not many saw this happening, the support was kind of suffocating.

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2017, 09:28:23 PM »
i guess i was wrong.  i looked through most of january and only found this.  mir posts a lot of posts.


if we turn out to be good, i will be pissed. otherwise, it is what it is. my guess is we ride this to the nit.

I'm ready to bet someone we'll make the tournament. I haven't clownsuited all of Seattle yet if you want some action.

i'm not going to bet against us to make the tourney. i'm just saying i think we played over our heads and are still a fringe tourney team. you can also go eff yourself with whatever is left of of sys's 30 no tourney fingers. probably about 8 rn.

We didn't play over our heads, I absolutely positively guarantee you that will be our worst defensive ppp BY FAR this season.


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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2017, 09:30:58 PM »
Didn't any of you pay attention to the Illini fiasco?  This entire Weber era has been a downhill slide, slow steady Chinese water torture type breakdown.  Weber is not a head coach, maybe an assistant, but not a head coach.  He didn't even have control of his best team with Angel and Rodney and the crew left over from Frank.  They played for themselves, not for Weber, and they might have gone past the first round if not for oscar.

For anyone to be surprised at this outcome you must have had race horse blinders on
Pro tip: no one is really surprised.

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2017, 09:32:40 PM »
I am probably a wizard.  I predicted oscar's future as soon as it was announced that we hired him.  I wish I could tell you "I wish I had been wrong," but I have really enjoyed being right about this.

Good call bud, not many saw this happening, the support was kind of suffocating.


It's just one of those things where I guess you'd have to be kinda of a fool to expect otherwise.  I am sure you understand.

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« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2017, 09:32:42 PM »
I get the oscar trends.

But no one really thought we'd win the league in year one. Come on.

And after the start to this year, I didn't see this level of collapse. He did it before, I get that, but we just lost by 30 to the worst team in the league. oscar is blaming the media. The players won't talk to the media. I didn't think he would possibly surpass what he did at Illinois.

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2017, 09:34:36 PM »
but we just lost by 30 to the worst team in the league.

today was ridiculous.  beyond ridiculous.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2017, 09:35:38 PM »
I get the oscar trends.

But no one really thought we'd win the league in year one. Come on.

And after the start to this year, I didn't see this level of collapse. He did it before, I get that, but we just lost by 30 to the worst team in the league. oscar is blaming the media. The players won't talk to the media. I didn't think he would possibly surpass what he did at Illinois.


We all thought they would be top 3 in year one.  I believe you too thought we were quite talented at the time.  It's not a huge leap to tie for the league, is it?

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« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2017, 09:37:22 PM »
I thought we would be a good, NCAA team. No, I didn't think we'd tie for the league title.

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2017, 09:38:52 PM »
I thought we would be a good, NCAA team. No, I didn't think we'd tie for the league title.


Right, well no one besides KU expects that, but if you believe a team is good enough to be top 3 you can't be shocked at sharing a title with KU.

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2017, 09:39:24 PM »
but we just lost by 30 to the worst team in the league.

today was ridiculous.  beyond ridiculous.

The first 30-point game in the B12 this year. And to one of the worst teams in the conference.


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« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2017, 09:39:44 PM »
Regardless, congrats on being right.

Hopefully we make a positive change.

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2017, 09:40:43 PM »
they were a kp 23 team the year previous and a kp 27 team the titletown year.  tying for the title had a lot more to do with what the rest of the league did than about how good that team was.
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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2017, 09:42:21 PM »
Regardless, congrats on being right.

Hopefully we make a positive change.

Thank you!

I hope, for you, that we do make a positive change.  However, I do not really care anymore.  Until Currie is gone and we have a non-army boss type president, I see no point and don't really feel sad about it at all anymore.  I accept what K-State really is.

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2017, 09:47:01 PM »
Anyone will be better than oscar at this point.

Wooly was at least likable, even with barely sniffing postseason in 6 seasons.

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2017, 09:49:17 PM »
Anyone will be better than oscar at this point.

Wooly was at least likable, even with barely sniffing postseason in 6 seasons.


I totally agree.  I liked Wooly a lot as a human.

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« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2017, 09:50:09 PM »
The players won't talk to the media.

btw, lol @ iwu and DJamer.
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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2017, 10:02:58 PM »
Anyone will be better than oscar at this point.

Wooly was at least likable, even with barely sniffing postseason in 6 seasons.

On one level I agree, but on another level oscar's hire and tenure have done serious damage that will damage the candidate pool and has also taken away enthusiasm for the program by fans. That just makes the next coach have an even tougher job.

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« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2017, 10:16:10 PM »
I get the oscar trends.

But no one really thought we'd win the league in year one. Come on.

And after the start to this year, I didn't see this level of collapse. He did it before, I get that, but we just lost by 30 to the worst team in the league. oscar is blaming the media. The players won't talk to the media. I didn't think he would possibly surpass what he did at Illinois.


We all thought they would be top 3 in year one.  I believe you too thought we were quite talented at the time.  It's not a huge leap to tie for the league, is it?

Not only this but that title swayed no one. I'm pretty sure the overwhelming reaction was to point out his first year at Illinois. It wasn't like "yeah we won, it's going to be different this time with oscar."

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« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2017, 10:19:19 PM »
Well, we did lose in the first round in KC as a 4 seed, so that was a jarring end to TitleTown.

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2017, 10:25:52 PM »
MIR, which "we" are you talking about.  gE main stream, GPC types, average K-State fans, etc?

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« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2017, 10:27:47 PM »
Well, we did lose in the first round in KC as a 4 seed, so that was a jarring end to TitleTown.

Yeah. That was pretty awful, especially being in attendance.

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« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2017, 10:30:45 PM »
Marcus provided a respite of hope, but then oscar even ruined that.

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2017, 10:32:23 PM »
Well, we did lose in the first round in KC as a 4 seed, so that was a jarring end to TitleTown.

Yeah. That was pretty awful, especially being in attendance.


Limestone and I had Lasalle donor seats.  It was terrible.

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Re: We don't have much LONger to wait; KSU ADV
« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2017, 10:43:40 PM »
Would be happy to see this team hapless the last couple games. Not just for my predicto.