Going Under...

[catastrophe]

I would not have been jazzed about Brad, but I wasn't jazzed about Frank either. Basically, I don't know crap about up and coming coaches.

[Cartierfor3]

I would not have been jazzed about Brad, but I wasn't jazzed about Frank either. Basically, I don't know crap about up and coming coaches.

and that's ok because you aren't paid by the university to know such things.

[kso_FAN]

do you still have that "at least ask if not then (BRADS FACE)" gif lying around anywhere?

I can only find these sad memories.

This was from exactly one year ago today:



Then these:

[Cire]

SAD!

[DQ12]

sitting on his hands during the brad stuff last year was currie's worst transgression imo.  I hated that he hired oscar, but even more than that, i hated that he didn't get rid of him last year.

it was such a no-brainer move that the entire fanbase was clamoring for. 

[kslim]

We should have hired Brad when Frank left. There is nothing wrong with hiring from within a successful basketball program. oscar is the kind of coach programs hire after somebody gets fired and leaves the program in shambles.

I hate this logic. Plenty of ppl would have been dissatisfied with that as well. Many are saying this now because of what he became.

but nobody wanted oscar to begin with, we knew what we were getting (a loser)

Obvi. I just think hiring an unproven assistant is boring. I had no clue we'd end up with oscar tho.

so you would rather hire a known loser than take a chance on an unknown because that is boring?

[ednksu]

sitting on his hands during the brad stuff last year was currie's worst transgression imo.  I hated that he hired oscar, but even more than that, i hated that he didn't get rid of him last year.

it was such a no-brainer move that the entire fanbase was clamoring for.

This

If anything you've wasted maybe 3 years, found out he didn't have it and you can move onto your next retread, safe, NY Jets type of coach.

[420seriouscat69]

We should have hired Brad when Frank left. There is nothing wrong with hiring from within a successful basketball program. oscar is the kind of coach programs hire after somebody gets fired and leaves the program in shambles.

I hate this logic. Plenty of ppl would have been dissatisfied with that as well. Many are saying this now because of what he became.

but nobody wanted oscar to begin with, we knew what we were getting (a loser)

Obvi. I just think hiring an unproven assistant is boring. I had no clue we'd end up with oscar tho.

so you would rather hire a known loser than take a chance on an unknown because that is boring?

No. I just said that. I didn't know we were going to hire oscar.

[deputy dawg]

We should have hired Brad when Frank left. There is nothing wrong with hiring from within a successful basketball program. oscar is the kind of coach programs hire after somebody gets fired and leaves the program in shambles.

I hate this logic. Plenty of ppl would have been dissatisfied with that as well. Many are saying this now because of what he became.

but nobody wanted oscar to begin with, we knew what we were getting (a loser)

Well, we sure kicked Charlotte's ass (was that the program that was set to hire Oscar before we snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory?)

[kslim]

We should have hired Brad when Frank left. There is nothing wrong with hiring from within a successful basketball program. oscar is the kind of coach programs hire after somebody gets fired and leaves the program in shambles.

I hate this logic. Plenty of ppl would have been dissatisfied with that as well. Many are saying this now because of what he became.

but nobody wanted oscar to begin with, we knew what we were getting (a loser)

Obvi. I just think hiring an unproven assistant is boring. I had no clue we'd end up with oscar tho.

so you would rather hire a known loser than take a chance on an unknown because that is boring?

No. I just said that. I didn't know we were going to hire oscar.

im not talking about brad and oscar anymore, im speaking in general

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We should have hired Brad when Frank left. There is nothing wrong with hiring from within a successful basketball program. oscar is the kind of coach programs hire after somebody gets fired and leaves the program in shambles.

I hate this logic. Plenty of ppl would have been dissatisfied with that as well. Many are saying this now because of what he became.

but nobody wanted oscar to begin with, we knew what we were getting (a loser)

Well, we sure kicked Charlotte's ass (was that the program that was set to hire Oscar before we snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory?)

Nope, Charleston (college of). 

[420seriouscat69]

I would have preferred an up and comer at the mid major level vs. brad, but obviously not now. I would have liked to think we could have stolen a successful P5 coach, that didn't just get fired, but what do I know. I figure there had to be some coaches out there that would have liked to get a raise by coming to K-State and taking over a stacked roster. Those were my thoughts at the time.

[#LIFE]

The love fest for Brad Underwood, IMHO, is based on emotion and not sound judgment. There simply is not enough evidence for a verdict. If oscar Weber had Evans as a guard, I bet K-State is fighting for a Big XII Championship at this very moment. Brad needs to prove himself for a while before I would feel good about his hire.

[MakeItRain]

The love fest for Brad Underwood, IMHO, is based on emotion and not sound judgment. There simply is not enough evidence for a verdict. If oscar Weber had Evans as a guard, I bet K-State is fighting for a Big XII Championship at this very moment. Brad needs to prove himself for a while before I would feel good about his hire.

The stuff about Brad is kinda accurate,  at thinking oscar would be in championship contention with Evans though, he had his Evans already.

[pvegs]

i was all for brad in 2012. he certainly excited me more than the initial murmurs of tad boyle and the hemorrhoids.

[nicname]

Not hiring Underwood when Frank left is probably more reasonable than hiring him.

Not trying to hire Underwood after Weber turned a recently solid program into a dumpster fire is a fireable offense.

We never should have hired Weber so quickly though.

[catastrophe]

sitting on his hands during the brad stuff last year was currie's worst transgression imo.  I hated that he hired oscar, but even more than that, i hated that he didn't get rid of him last year.

it was such a no-brainer move that the entire fanbase was clamoring for.

Agreed. For me, this is by far the biggest indictment on Currie's judgment.

If we end up hiring a boring FB coach and find out Currie didn't even talk to Venables, he should be gone.

[#LIFE]

sitting on his hands during the brad stuff last year was currie's worst transgression imo.  I hated that he hired oscar, but even more than that, i hated that he didn't get rid of him last year.

it was such a no-brainer move that the entire fanbase was clamoring for.

Agreed. For me, this is by far the biggest indictment on Currie's judgment.

If we end up hiring a boring FB coach and find out Currie didn't even talk to Venables, he should be gone.

Should we give him that chance to screw it up though?

[michigancat]

I was more angry about hiring oscar than not hiring Brad last year

['taterblast]

sitting on his hands during the brad stuff last year was currie's worst transgression imo.  I hated that he hired oscar, but even more than that, i hated that he didn't get rid of him last year.

it was such a no-brainer move that the entire fanbase was clamoring for.

it was such an easy and perfect decision for him to make. even if underwood ended up failing spectacularly no one would have blamed currie for hiring him at all.

[#LIFE]

sitting on his hands during the brad stuff last year was currie's worst transgression imo.  I hated that he hired oscar, but even more than that, i hated that he didn't get rid of him last year.

it was such a no-brainer move that the entire fanbase was clamoring for.

it was such an easy and perfect decision for him to make. even if underwood ended up failing spectacularly no one would have blamed currie for hiring him at all.

I said this last year. He could have set a can out and we would have covered loser's buyout in an hour. Brad would have had 99% of the fanbase behind him. If it didn't work out we wouldn't be in any worse shape than we are now. And those of us that have met and been around Brad know there was like a 5% chance of him not getting the job done here. Currie goes out and gets him last year he's probably the hottest AD commodity in the country a year or two from now. But, ego, sportsmanship, etc. 

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Currie couldn't have gotten Brad.  And even if he could've, michigancat is right about what was more egregious.

[sys]

Currie couldn't have gotten Brad.  And even if he could've, michigancat is right about what was more egregious.

oh, i don't agree at all.  in terms of egregious currie decisions, i'd put it at like:

1.  running off martin.
2.  not hiring underwood in 2016.

all sorts of other crap.

99.  hiring weber.

[michigancat]

I guess I connect #1 too closely with #99

[Trim]

#1 & #99 precluded #2 from ever being an option, so of course they're more egregious.