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Going Under...
« on: February 22, 2017, 10:43:54 PM »


Our loss.


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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2017, 10:46:27 PM »
i'm always late to the party.  really didn't think he'd turn out to be the caliber of coach that he is.  it's a limited sample size but all evidence points to him being legit.  good for him


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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2017, 10:47:55 PM »
Yeah. I wanted so badly for him to be our coach last March.

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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2017, 10:49:45 PM »
There were more then enough data points to suggest he would be better then a known loser.  More then enough to take that 3 year risk.  Oh well.
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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 10:51:44 PM »
i'm always late to the party.  really didn't think he'd turn out to be the caliber of coach that he is.  it's a limited sample size but all evidence points to him being legit.  good for him

good pt. after he won 90 games in 3 seasons and beat huggy as a 14 i was still unconvinced, bc non-power 5/who knows circumstances. egg on our faces, clams!

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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2017, 10:53:50 PM »
There were more then enough data points to suggest he would be better then a known loser.  More then enough to take that 3 year risk.  Oh well.

it wasn't an issue of risk.  the problem for currie, last year, was timing.  we could not fire oscar after giving him the rebuild green light.  if brad was available now there's no doubt in my mind that currie would attempt to hire him.


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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2017, 11:00:03 PM »
A good coach helps his team get better.  OKstate is way better than at the start of conference play.  Juxtapose that to Oscar's downhill trajectory.  If we were a ski team, we would be settling speed recordS.

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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2017, 11:05:42 PM »
it wasn't an issue of risk.  the problem for currie, last year, was timing.  we could not fire oscar after giving him the rebuild green light.  if brad was available now there's no doubt in my mind that currie would attempt to hire him.

Kind of like West Virginia when Beilein left...

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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2017, 11:08:31 PM »
There were more then enough data points to suggest he would be better then a known loser.  More then enough to take that 3 year risk.  Oh well.

it wasn't an issue of risk.  the problem for currie, last year, was timing.  we could not fire oscar after giving him the rebuild green light.  if brad was available now there's no doubt in my mind that currie would attempt to hire him.
I'm not sure how much I can go along with this green light stuff.  oscar lead a slander campaign for half a conference season to run him (marcus) so that was the only thing the AD could allow.  Timing was there when he stumbled hard last with his guys.  You have a guy who is following his same career path that got him fired to a T and *you* expect something different?  Nah, you have a hot coach with amazeballs connections to you, wants to come, you take that splash and fire your loser for a potential winner.  All you have done is risked the program being in the spot it is right now.  No good options.  This is like releasing a free agent.  Better a year too early then a year too late.  Now we're looking at maybe 2 years too late.
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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2017, 08:50:09 AM »
We should have hired Brad when Frank left. There is nothing wrong with hiring from within a successful basketball program. oscar is the kind of coach programs hire after somebody gets fired and leaves the program in shambles.

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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2017, 08:51:58 AM »
We should have hired Brad when Frank left. There is nothing wrong with hiring from within a successful basketball program. oscar is the kind of coach programs hire after somebody gets fired and leaves the program in shambles.
I hate this logic. Plenty of ppl would have been dissatisfied with that as well. Many are saying this now because of what he became.

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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2017, 08:53:09 AM »
We should have hired Brad when Frank left. There is nothing wrong with hiring from within a successful basketball program. oscar is the kind of coach programs hire after somebody gets fired and leaves the program in shambles.
I hate this logic. Plenty of ppl would have been dissatisfied with that as well. Many are saying this now because of what he became.

Brad is a K-State alum, so most of the people who really matter would have loved the hire.

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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2017, 08:57:39 AM »
I remember that time like it was yesterday and many wanted a home run hire. Were you cheering for that hire at that time or were you cheering for some former college pg/ talk show host?

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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2017, 08:58:30 AM »
I remember that time like it was yesterday and many wanted a home run hire. Were you cheering for that hire at that time or were you cheering for some former college pg/ talk show host?

I was pulling hard for Antigua, but would have been happy with Brad.

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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2017, 09:04:17 AM »
Brad was above the Burn It Down line, wasn't he?

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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2017, 09:08:00 AM »
We should have hired Brad when Frank left. There is nothing wrong with hiring from within a successful basketball program. oscar is the kind of coach programs hire after somebody gets fired and leaves the program in shambles.
I hate this logic. Plenty of ppl would have been dissatisfied with that as well. Many are saying this now because of what he became.

I was all for hiring Brad at the time.

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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2017, 09:13:23 AM »
It's sort of like how during this football search, I hope we can do better than Leavitt, but I'd be fine with him in the end and anyone we get who is clearly worse at the time of hire is completely unacceptable.

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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2017, 09:15:51 AM »
Leavitt does not equal Brad that time. That's all i'm saying. He was an unproven assistant coach, who had a .500 coaching record at Dodge city CC as a head coach.

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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2017, 09:18:38 AM »
Yeah, Dimel is a better comparison. I'd be ok with Dimel, too, if we tried to get better coaches and they turned us down first.

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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2017, 09:20:09 AM »
Leavitt does not equal Brad that time. That's all i'm saying. He was an unproven assistant coach, who had a .500 coaching record at Dodge city CC as a head coach.

At that point I was pretty much "taking a flyer on Frank worked, why not Brad?". Plus Brad had been part of the program for multiple years and was a K-Stater. I would have absolutely been fine with taking that shot, especially considering who we ended up hiring. Currie could have hired Brad for 750K a year max. Fans would have been fine with it too, especially with the corp of player Brad was inheriting.

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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2017, 09:30:56 AM »
Brad was the least acceptable candidate for me.  I don't mean the worst, but just that I saw him as the worst one that I would've been on board with.  oscar was unacceptable.

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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2017, 09:38:04 AM »
We should have hired Brad when Frank left. There is nothing wrong with hiring from within a successful basketball program. oscar is the kind of coach programs hire after somebody gets fired and leaves the program in shambles.
I hate this logic. Plenty of ppl would have been dissatisfied with that as well. Many are saying this now because of what he became.
but nobody wanted oscar to begin with, we knew what we were getting (a loser)

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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2017, 09:43:38 AM »
Brad was the least acceptable candidate for me.  I don't mean the worst, but just that I saw him as the worst one that I would've been on board with.  oscar was unacceptable.

agree with this and what _fan has said. I would have been ok with it.

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Re: Going Under...
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2017, 09:48:31 AM »
Leavitt does not equal Brad that time. That's all i'm saying. He was an unproven assistant coach, who had a .500 coaching record at Dodge city CC as a head coach.

At that point I was pretty much "taking a flyer on Frank worked, why not Brad?". Plus Brad had been part of the program for multiple years and was a K-Stater. I would have absolutely been fine with taking that shot, especially considering who we ended up hiring. Currie could have hired Brad for 750K a year max. Fans would have been fine with it too, especially with the corp of player Brad was inheriting.

do you still have that "at least ask if not then (BRADS FACE)" gif lying around anywhere?

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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2017, 09:48:52 AM »
We should have hired Brad when Frank left. There is nothing wrong with hiring from within a successful basketball program. oscar is the kind of coach programs hire after somebody gets fired and leaves the program in shambles.
I hate this logic. Plenty of ppl would have been dissatisfied with that as well. Many are saying this now because of what he became.
but nobody wanted oscar to begin with, we knew what we were getting (a loser)
Obvi. I just think hiring an unproven assistant is boring. I had no clue we'd end up with oscar tho.