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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #200 on: January 06, 2017, 08:28:25 PM »
Why is half the report dedicated to some Internet channel called RT?

Very bizarre report. It's like Putin tried to do this and that and he was 100% succesful. If Putin didn't publish this himself, he'll almost certainly see it widely distributed throughout russia.
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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #201 on: January 06, 2017, 08:38:06 PM »
What would it take to convince you guys that Russia did it?

Maybe some actual evidence. I mean, I understand the agencies have to be careful about what they declassify - but there's nothing here but naked conclusions. Most of this report is devoted to Russian propaganda efforts, and about half the report (Annex A) is just old info republished from several years ago.

This appears to be the extent of the detail provided on the hacking:

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The General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) probably began cyber operations aimed at the US election by March 2016. We assess that the GRU operations resulted in the compromise of the personal e-mail accounts of Democratic Party officials and political figures. By May, the GRU had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.

Public Disclosures of Russian-Collected Data.

We assess with high confidence that the GRU used the Guccifer 2.0 persona, DCLeaks.com, and WikiLeaks to release US victim data obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets.

 Guccifer 2.0, who claimed to be an independent Romanian hacker, made multiple contradictory statements and false claims about his likely Russian identity throughout the election. Press reporting suggests more than one person claiming to be Guccifer 2.0 interacted with journalists.

? Content that we assess was taken from e-mail accounts targeted by the GRU in March 2016 appeared on DCLeaks.com starting in June.

We assess with high confidence that the GRU relayed material it acquired from the DNC and senior Democratic officials to WikiLeaks. Moscow most likely chose WikiLeaks because of its self- proclaimed reputation for authenticity. Disclosures through WikiLeaks did not contain any evident forgeries.

Look, I'm not a computer forensic cyber security guy, but this report reads like political bullshit with a healthy dose of ass covering. i mean the first report at least contained one piece of actual evidence - it just didn't really point to the Russian government. So then promise "wait till you see the next report" and this is it?!

Honestly, I think the best indicator will be how Trump responds. He got the classified briefing which supposedly has the actual evidence. He knows that if they actually have evidence, and he denies it, they'll leak it to the press. So if he continues to slam the intelligence as bullshit, that's an indicator that it is. If he clams up or tries to change the focus, they may very well some proof.

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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #202 on: January 06, 2017, 08:45:12 PM »
the country's top intelligence people: here's what happened
rednecks: I don't know, I need more proof guys. just doesn't add up to me.

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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #203 on: January 06, 2017, 08:47:57 PM »
France says Russia is trying to eff with their upcoming election as well, using the exact same techniques
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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #204 on: January 06, 2017, 08:49:07 PM »
The country's top intelligence people: "here's what we're sure happened - we can't give you any proof but we're totally confident."
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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #205 on: January 06, 2017, 08:49:51 PM »
TOR, VPN's, SFTP, and proxys are all you need to do to hack and election guys, its not rocket science

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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #206 on: January 06, 2017, 08:51:24 PM »
probably kali linux too but who doesnt have a kali VM  :lol:

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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #207 on: January 06, 2017, 08:51:31 PM »
What would it take to convince you guys that Russia did it?

I think Russia probably did it, but it was allowed through stupidity and could have been done by any country or 14 year old. It was allowed to be effective by stupid people and lax cyber security.

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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #208 on: January 06, 2017, 09:00:00 PM »
jd on his way back to being reasonable?   :Wha:
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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #209 on: January 06, 2017, 09:32:39 PM »
This ought to bring Comey back in the dnctards favor, and I can say that with a high degree of probability.

Congrats russia, you sought to and successfully manipulated our election, and here's our half-assed report acklowledging you cuck'd us. - "top intelligence people"

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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #210 on: January 06, 2017, 09:50:29 PM »
It sounds like most everyone agrees it was Russia except maybe ksu who wants trump to be the canary in the coal mine I guess.   
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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #211 on: January 06, 2017, 09:52:08 PM »
Hey you guys remember that debate where Romney said Russia was our #1 geopolitical rival and Obama was all like "the 1980s called and wants its foreign policy back" and the media was all like "ZOMG Obama totally pnwed him I love love love Obama so much!"

Fun times.
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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #212 on: January 06, 2017, 10:12:47 PM »
Why is half the report dedicated to some Internet channel called RT?



Russian Times, dumbass.

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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #213 on: January 06, 2017, 10:13:54 PM »
 :lol:
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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #214 on: January 06, 2017, 10:28:14 PM »
 :ROFL:

Wrong and doesn't answer the questio, useful idiot and libtard.

Apparently Ed Schultz has a program on RT  :lol:
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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #215 on: January 06, 2017, 10:33:15 PM »
No, RT.com is Russian Times.  They are the state controlled media outlet for the Russian govt.  I see stupid bullshit stories shared from them on Facebook all the time from a few morons I know.  Interneting is hard, but do some digging and you will see your mistake, dumbass.

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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #216 on: January 06, 2017, 10:48:17 PM »
Well, no. That's wrong master of the internet. But, that doesn't answer the question, in any event.

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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #217 on: January 06, 2017, 10:55:41 PM »
Russian hacking and.global warming, bullshanasty lies designed to foment rage to have as an excuse to have a war.  Be.friendly to Russia.  Less friendly with European socialists.

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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #218 on: January 06, 2017, 10:57:53 PM »
You really mumped that one up cns
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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #219 on: January 06, 2017, 11:09:44 PM »
Hey you guys remember that debate where Romney said Russia was our #1 geopolitical rival and Obama was all like "the 1980s called and wants its foreign policy back".

the american people have spoken, not once, but twice.  all hail mother russia.
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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #220 on: January 07, 2017, 05:13:05 AM »
The country's top intelligence people: "here's what we're sure happened - we can't give you any proof but we're totally confident."
Are you serious? Who the eff are you that they need to win you over?

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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #221 on: January 07, 2017, 05:14:10 AM »
What would it take to convince you guys that Russia did it?

I think Russia probably did it, but it was allowed through stupidity and could have been done by any country or 14 year old. It was allowed to be effective by stupid people and lax cyber security.
That shuts everyone up that said this was some high powered assault...

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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #222 on: January 07, 2017, 05:15:35 AM »
This ought to bring Comey back in the dnctards favor, and I can say that with a high degree of probability.

Congrats russia, you sought to and successfully manipulated our election, and here's our half-assed report acklowledging you cuck'd us. - "top intelligence people"

gmafb
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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #223 on: January 07, 2017, 05:16:00 AM »
It sounds like most everyone agrees it was Russia except maybe ksu who wants trump to be the canary in the coal mine I guess.
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Re: Cause a war over hacking.
« Reply #224 on: January 07, 2017, 05:17:58 AM »
Hey you guys remember that debate where Romney said Russia was our #1 geopolitical rival and Obama was all like "the 1980s called and wants its foreign policy back" and the media was all like "ZOMG Obama totally pnwed him I love love love Obama so much!"

Fun times.
Because its been reported this was a high level hacking effort, not just tossing out bank lines and catching idiots.