What gets us in the tournament? 10-8 or 11-7?

[420seriouscat69]

 

[TheFormerKCCat]

IMHO - a win apiece over the top 10s (KU, Baylor, and WVU), picking up a win or two on the road, and anything 9 - 9* or better and we're "in." That's no small task. If we can get good leadership out of DJamer and Wes, plus some solid guard play out of Kamau and Barry in league play, who have great potential. Having the wildcards of Dean and Sneed show up big during league play could make a big difference.

 

I don't feel too confident in our bench (beyond Sneed). I hope not to be here in March with a broken heart (again). Though, the consolation for that could be that oscar is unemployed.

(*edited from 8 - 10 to 9 - 9, 20 wins is more powerful "looking" than 19)

[Mixed-Nutz]

IMHO - a win apiece over the top 10s (KU, Baylor, and WVU), picking up a win or two on the road, and anything 9 - 9* or better and we're "in." That's no small task. If we can get good leadership out of DJamer and Wes, plus some solid guard play out of Kamau and Barry in league play, who have great potential. Having the wildcards of Dean and Sneed show up big during league play could make a big difference.

 

I don't feel too confident in our bench (beyond Sneed). I hope not to be here in March with a broken heart (again). Though, the consolation for that could be that oscar is unemployed.

(*edited from 8 - 10 to 9 - 9, 20 wins is more powerful "looking" than 19)

I don't think it matter who we win against. There are no bad losses in the big 12 this year, so you are going to have a collection of good wins with 9.

[sys]

I don't think it matter who we win against. There are no bad losses in the big 12 this year, so you are going to have a collection of good wins with 9.

i don't agree with this at all.  we'll see how it shakes out, but if things more or less hold, with 3 elite teams and 7 medium-good teams, i think all of the 7 medium-good teams will be judged based on how they do against the 3 elite teams.

[Shooter Jones]

I love the NCAA tourney, and I love it more when CatsU is in it.

Hope they find a way to get in, whatever that may be.

[gatoveintisiete]

Making the tournament with no chance of making a run sucks, it's like not making it at all to me. 

2010 was the only fun year.  I love upsetting ranked conference teams, that's why I watch.

[wetwillie]

Making the tournament with no chance of making a run sucks, it's like not making it at all to me. 

2010 was the only fun year.  I love upsetting ranked conference teams, that's why I watch.

GTFOOMF with this crap.  The only thing necesary to make a run in the tournament is to make the tournament.

[420seriouscat69]

Yup. Wetwillie gets it. We don't even know how we match up yet vs "A" class competition. Take a lap, Gat!

[Powercat Posse]

It matters who we beat. Ku Baylor and WV could be Top 25 RPI. Those wins are better than Ou.

11 wins counting Kc with 2 of those vs top teams, and I will be surprised if we are not in

[gatoveintisiete]

Yup. Wetwillie gets it. We don't even know how we match up yet vs "A" class competition. Take a lap, Gat!

What if I told you that I know how we match up against A competition?

[Mixed-Nutz]

I don't think it matter who we win against. There are no bad losses in the big 12 this year, so you are going to have a collection of good wins with 9.

i don't agree with this at all.  we'll see how it shakes out, but if things more or less hold, with 3 elite teams and 7 medium-good teams, i think all of the 7 medium-good teams will be judged based on how they do against the 3 elite teams.

In the sense of the conference it matters. But in the sense of making the tourney I don't think it does. You would have to drop all you games to the top 3. Then have the great fortune on the bottom three really taking a step back and sweeping them. I think both of those are really unlikely.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If we go 10-8 in this conference we'll be a 7 or better seed.  There are no good mid major teams this year, and the PAC and SEC are dumpster fires again. Even the MWC, which has been good for 3+ bids is looking like a one-bid conference. The number of teams that get in is static, they fill all the spots.  If we get 10 conf wins we'll have ~6 top 50 wins.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

The A10 sucks bad this year too.

[sonofdaxjones]

11-7 minimum to get a Bid and I ain't seeing it. 

Slow starts, falling in love with and then clanking a lot of 3's, pillowy soft play during long stretches and of course the oscar micro micromanagement fatigue factor.

How unsure of your coaching, game prep and teams abilities are you, if you're literally directing your guys where to dribble, when to pass and when to get their hands up, amongst many other things?

[kslim]

Tenn could be our best non con win. The sec is awful

[420seriouscat69]

Yup. Wetwillie gets it. We don't even know how we match up yet vs "A" class competition. Take a lap, Gat!

What if I told you that I know how we match up against A competition?

I'd then reply that your thought process of that is leaned heavily towards us having a squirrelly voiced coach, who you dislike, while vastly ignoring the improvement this team has made. Thank god we don't have to go down that road tho. Handing out body bags on Christmas is never fun.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Who are all these juggernaught teams that loaded up on noncon wins that are going to get in ovet a big 12 team with a winning conf record?  I'm really interested in the absurd and bizarre premise? 

21-10 (9-9) KState is going to get in over 25-5 (11-4) C-USA.

In goE fantasy land where there are three 15-3 teams and seven 6-12 teams, we're defintely in troubs tho...

[kslim]

Yup. Wetwillie gets it. We don't even know how we match up yet vs "A" class competition. Take a lap, Gat!

What if I told you that I know how we match up against A competition?

I'd then reply that your thought process of that is leaned heavily towards us having a squirrelly voiced coach, who you dislike, while vastly ignoring the improvement this team has made. Thank god we don't have to go down that road tho. Handing out body bags on Christmas is never fun.

you think oscar is the reason this team has improved?

[420seriouscat69]

Umm what? I never said that, but now that you bring it up, these are his players and I like watching his offense run well. But yeah, he has zero touch of any success this team has. :rollingmyfuckingeyes:

[420seriouscat69]

Everyone loves consistency and runs like what Frank brought us. You're probably going to get a tourney team from oscar every 3-4 years, when his DITR are senior led, which really sucks, but I'm going to enjoy a K-State tourney team when I think I see one, so that's what I'm doing. You don't have to blindly hate oscar so much, where you act like he's not accountable for any success from a successful team. It's petty and dumb.

[kslim]

Hating oscar has little to do with what happens on the court fwiw

[renocat]

Why will do better in conference this hear?
Westicles is a better shooter.
DJamer.
 is fully healthy.
Deathbite is not out.
Flush can be good when he wants to.
Dogbite is a better backup to Kam.
Honcho Sneed is a great 6th man.
Claws is willing to brand and castrate instead of just horse ridin.
Swampthing and Hothorndog can give us some good minutes.
I hope Bullnuts isn't lost for good, we need a minute eater if DJamer or Wade gets into foul trouble.
I think Coach Cornboy is helping the meats.
Even are bench grunts are better too.

[MakeItRain]

I hadn't even seriously considered the possibility of this team making the tournament until MIR said it was 100% a tournament team.  He usually doesn't say crap like that lightly so I'm leaning towards believing it.

Let me couch that a bit. I think we have the talent to be a tournament team but you can make a very strong case that oscar's teams have underachieved every single year he's been here. If this team does that, we're out. I don't anticipate 4 losses to OU, Texas, Tech, and TCU but if we do we're boned because I don't think we're sweeping KU, WVU, Baylor, or OSU.

[MakeItRain]

I hadn't even seriously considered the possibility of this team making the tournament until MIR said it was 100% a tournament team.  He usually doesn't say crap like that lightly so I'm leaning towards believing it.

The team probably has enough talent to get a tournament bid, but they have done absolutely nothing to deserve one and will need to be very good in conference play to sneak in.

I disagree with that, I think they have deserved a bid to this point. If the tournament was selected today I think we make it. There is no prerequisite of having to be tested a set amount of times in the non conference. That becomes an issue if you don't take care of business in conference play.

[420seriouscat69]

This is an interesting site to follow along with

http://bracketmatrix.com/

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