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« on: December 10, 2016, 11:49:24 PM »
This team is an NCAA tourny bid team.  They will get a bid.  They might not make i past the first round (see Maryland) but we'll still have oscar next year.

The worst hurt will be losing to Brad, Bob, and Lon.


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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2016, 11:53:38 PM »
Schedule is bad

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2016, 12:09:33 AM »
This team is an NCAA tourny bid team.  They will get a bid.  They might not make i past the first round (see Maryland) but we'll still have oscar next year.

The worst hurt will be losing to Brad, Bob, and Lon.

Agree on losing to Brad, Bob and Lon. Disagree on a tourney bid. Something will go wrong. That's life with oscar.

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2016, 12:19:36 AM »
Schedule is bad

a decent team was done no favors.  it's really quite fun.
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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2016, 11:07:26 PM »
Schedule is bad

At some point there needs to be some acknowledgement over what they have done to the teams on the schedule. This is absolutely different than what Wooly's teams did against bad schedules.

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2016, 01:15:01 PM »
Schedule is bad

At some point there needs to be some acknowledgement over what they have done to the teams on the schedule. This is absolutely different than what Wooly's teams did against bad schedules.

This feels and sounds right, I'd like to see the analysis done by one of our more trusted EMAWers with time on their hands.

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2016, 01:22:02 PM »
Schedule is bad

At some point there needs to be some acknowledgement over what they have done to the teams on the schedule. This is absolutely different than what Wooly's teams did against bad schedules.

This feels and sounds right, I'd like to see the analysis done by one of our more trusted EMAWers with time on their hands.

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2016, 01:24:51 PM »
Schedule is bad

At some point there needs to be some acknowledgement over what they have done to the teams on the schedule. This is absolutely different than what Wooly's teams did against bad schedules.

This feels and sounds right, I'd like to see the analysis done by one of our more trusted EMAWers with time on their hands.

Wooly's best OOC.



Thanks. What season was this? oscar is definitely faring better than that in our current run through the bottom of the barrel in the noncon.

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2016, 01:27:15 PM »
That was Wooly's NIT bubble season in 2005.

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2016, 01:55:29 PM »
Schedule is bad

At some point there needs to be some acknowledgement over what they have done to the teams on the schedule. This is absolutely different than what Wooly's teams did against bad schedules.

This feels and sounds right, I'd like to see the analysis done by one of our more trusted EMAWers with time on their hands.

Wooly's best OOC.



Exactly what I thought, thanks. Wooly played a D2 school in January  :ROFL:

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2016, 01:56:56 PM »
Rutgers was the free hot dog game right?

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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2016, 02:17:18 PM »
Rutgers was the free hot dog game right?

Yes.

According to Wooly at the time, the CMSU game happened because the Cats had a high profile opponent lined up that fell through late. Wooly then asked his old school to fill the void; CMSU had just inducted him into their HOF the year before.

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2016, 03:58:13 PM »
Schedule is bad

At some point there needs to be some acknowledgement over what they have done to the teams on the schedule. This is absolutely different than what Wooly's teams did against bad schedules.


This feels and sounds right, I'd like to see the analysis done by one of our more trusted EMAWers with time on their hands.

Wooly's best OOC.



Was hoping that matchup with Denver U was during 6-time Mr. Olympia-winner Phil Heath's tenure with the team...it was 3 years after.  Damn, really makes that win a thousand times less impressive.

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2016, 05:59:14 PM »
Schedule is bad

At some point there needs to be some acknowledgement over what they have done to the teams on the schedule. This is absolutely different than what Wooly's teams did against bad schedules.

This feels and sounds right, I'd like to see the analysis done by one of our more trusted EMAWers with time on their hands.

Wooly's best OOC.


2 more top 100 wins than oscar will have.

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2016, 07:59:13 PM »
I don't know about you guys, but I'm jacked about playing in the ncaa tourn-a-ment.
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2016, 08:42:27 PM »
I don't know about you guys, but I'm jacked about playing in the ncaa tourn-a-ment.

It would be a lot of fun. I'd like for DJamer and Wes to get a shot.

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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2016, 09:24:05 PM »
I don't know about you guys, but I'm jacked about playing in the ncaa tourn-a-ment.

It would be a lot of fun. I'd like for DJamer and Wes to get a shot.

first, wes and DJamer already played in the ncaa in 2013. wes even started. second, i confused wooldridge's best non-con with asbury's 98-99 - a team that i was really psyched about after their maui invitational showing. my god, how the years pass, and how terrible that whole era of cat bball was.

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2016, 10:34:31 PM »
Schedule is bad

At some point there needs to be some acknowledgement over what they have done to the teams on the schedule. This is absolutely different than what Wooly's teams did against bad schedules.

This feels and sounds right, I'd like to see the analysis done by one of our more trusted EMAWers with time on their hands.

Wooly's best OOC.


2 more top 100 wins than oscar will have.

That's your takeaway?

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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2016, 10:40:39 PM »
I don't know about you guys, but I'm jacked about playing in the ncaa tourn-a-ment.

It would be a lot of fun. I'd like for DJamer and Wes to get a shot.

first, wes and DJamer already played in the ncaa in 2013. wes even started. second, i confused wooldridge's best non-con with asbury's 98-99 - a team that i was really psyched about after their maui invitational showing. my god, how the years pass, and how terrible that whole era of cat bball was.

Yeah, I meant to type "another" shot.

That loss to Indiana in 98 was a heartbreaker.


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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2016, 11:15:24 PM »
When one is googling these people to see who hired and fired whom, this thread on this very blog comes up: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=20490.0

Anyway, the same AD hired and fired Asbury, and hired Wooldridge.  A different AD fired Wooldridge.

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2016, 09:16:17 AM »
This is not a tournament team.  oscar will be back anyways :horrorsurprise:

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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2016, 10:46:49 AM »
I think it will be very difficult for oscar to keep his job if we don't make the tournament. This conversation becomes difficult to have on gE because 95% of the posters on here have lost all objectivity on this subject. If we don't make the tournament but have considerable forward momentum then he stays and deserves to do so. The CBI or CIT isn't good enough. We'll need to see a couple of big wins and more importantly big crowds at Bramlage. I don't think Currie will have any tolerance for thousands.of empties in February.

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Re: #thetruth
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2016, 11:04:28 AM »
I think it will be very difficult for oscar to keep his job if we don't make the tournament. This conversation becomes difficult to have on gE because 95% of the posters on here have lost all objectivity on this subject. If we don't make the tournament but have considerable forward momentum then he stays and deserves to do so. The CBI or CIT isn't good enough. We'll need to see a couple of big wins and more importantly big crowds at Bramlage. I don't think Currie will have any tolerance for thousands.of empties in February.
Good rational post here.

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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2016, 11:12:57 AM »
I think it will be very difficult for oscar to keep his job if we don't make the tournament.

The scenario you then laid out doesn't seem difficult at all, especially when Currie can influence the narrative on the momentum/attendance concepts, and to date, has shown he wants to inflate them positively. 

If we don't make the tournament but have considerable forward momentum then he stays and deserves to do so. The CBI or CIT isn't good enough. We'll need to see a couple of big wins and more importantly big crowds at Bramlage. I don't think Currie will have any tolerance for thousands.of empties in February.

It'd be awkward if he were to cite lack of progress and down attendance when nobody's been a bigger proponent of kstatembb success in those fields than himself.  However, he could shut down an NIT berth and then cite lack of being in a "major" tournament as the dealbreaker.

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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2016, 11:30:40 AM »
I think it will be very difficult for oscar to keep his job if we don't make the tournament. This conversation becomes difficult to have on gE because 95% of the posters on here have lost all objectivity on this subject. If we don't make the tournament but have considerable forward momentum then he stays and deserves to do so. The CBI or CIT isn't good enough. We'll need to see a couple of big wins and more importantly big crowds at Bramlage. I don't think Currie will have any tolerance for thousands.of empties in February.
Good rational post here.
I have a difficult time participating in most of the men's basketball threads because of your second statement.  I want to discuss things separating what I think from what I feel.  I am not a Weber fan, but I can discuss his positives as well as his negatives.