Don't even care

[420seriouscat69]

I thought she went to K-State?

Nope. She's a squawk, but she has family members that are big donors for K-state, so we go to a lot of games with them.

[catastrophe]

I, personally, would be happy if we never lost again.

[Mixed-Nutz]

Ertz is fine. They (Dimel/Miller) are turning him into Klein 2.0 which is exactly what they wanted to do.

I don't trust Miller. I think Dimel gets too much heat. The running game has been solid for a while now. But I don't think the passing game makes any sense.

[Steffy08]

Ertz is fine. They (Dimel/Miller) are turning him into Klein 2.0 which is exactly what they wanted to do.

I don't trust Miller. I think Dimel gets too much heat. The running game has been solid for a while now. But I don't think the passing game makes any sense.

I've never thought about it like this before, but our play-calling is about what you would expect when you have co-offensive coordinators, one in charge of run game and the other in charge of passing.  Namely, politics comes into play in terms of how many passes we call, even if we are running the crap out of the ball.

[kso_FAN]

Ertz is fine. They (Dimel/Miller) are turning him into Klein 2.0 which is exactly what they wanted to do.

I don't trust Miller. I think Dimel gets too much heat. The running game has been solid for a while now. But I don't think the passing game makes any sense.

I've never thought about it like this before, but our play-calling is about what you would expect when you have co-offensive coordinators, one in charge of run game and the other in charge of passing.  Namely, politics comes into play in terms of how many passes we call, even if we are running the crap out of the ball.

FWIW, several years ago I was told that Dimel/Miller do work together closely on prep and gameplanning, but on game days Dimel calls the majority of the plays. Clear passing situations (2nd/3rd and long) go to Miller. I guess that's why Dimel gets $10K more.

[MakeItRain]

I have been told that as of a year or two ago Dana calls all of the plays.

[Dugout DickStone]

If we really do have a different coach for each type of play that has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard

[Steffy08]

I have been told that as of a year or two ago Dana calls all of the plays.

I don't know how it works, but even if Dimel is calling ALL the plays, it seems possible that there would be political/personal pressure to call some passing plays for the passing game coordinator.

That seems as good of an explanation as any in terms of why we came out passing the ball last year against TCU in the second half--Dimel wanted to keep Miller happy by throwing some (passing) bones to him.

[kso_FAN]

I have been told that as of a year or two ago Dana calls all of the plays.

I don't know how it works, but even if Dimel is calling ALL the plays, it seems possible that there would be political/personal pressure to call some passing plays for the passing game coordinator.

That seems as good of an explanation as any in terms of why we came out passing the ball last year against TCU in the second half--Dimel wanted to keep Miller happy by throwing some (passing) bones to him.

No. These guys may not always agree, but I have no doubt they put in tons of work and want to win. They call stuff that they think will work.

[Mixed-Nutz]

I have been told that as of a year or two ago Dana calls all of the plays.

I don't think playing calling has been as big of an issues as the pass games ineptness. I think it is a big portion of poor pass game-planing.

[Mixed-Nutz]

Also the coaching of the safeties seems terrible for two years straight.

[EMAWican]

I think at this point I care more about Brucetball.

[Steffy08]

I have been told that as of a year or two ago Dana calls all of the plays.

I don't know how it works, but even if Dimel is calling ALL the plays, it seems possible that there would be political/personal pressure to call some passing plays for the passing game coordinator.

That seems as good of an explanation as any in terms of why we came out passing the ball last year against TCU in the second half--Dimel wanted to keep Miller happy by throwing some (passing) bones to him.

No. These guys may not always agree, but I have no doubt they put in tons of work and want to win. They call stuff that they think will work.

I'm not doubting their work or their will to win.  I'm trying to make a point about human nature, although I admit I haven't made the point very clearly.

[CHONGS]

Do they really put in THAT much work? Anymore than any other CFB coach?  I doubt it.

[Skipper44]

I have been told that as of a year or two ago Dana calls all of the plays.

I don't know how it works, but even if Dimel is calling ALL the plays, it seems possible that there would be political/personal pressure to call some passing plays for the passing game coordinator.

That seems as good of an explanation as any in terms of why we came out passing the ball last year against TCU in the second half--Dimel wanted to keep Miller happy by throwing some (passing) bones to him.

No. These guys may not always agree, but I have no doubt they put in tons of work and want to win. They call stuff that they think will work.

or get his kid touchdowns like a shitty coach dad in peewee football

[Steffy08]

Do they really put in THAT much work? Anymore than any other CFB coach?  I doubt it.

I know Snyder did/does.  I can't speak to Dimel.  I have heard that the players love Snyder but not so much Dimel or Hayes.

[CHONGS]

How do you know he works harder than Nick Saban or Urban Meyer?

[Rage Against the McKee]

It's possible he works harder, not smarter.

[Steffy08]

How do you know he works harder than Nick Saban or Urban Meyer?

I play golf and cards all the time with Nick and Urb.  Snyder always turns me down.

[MakeItRain]

I have been told that as of a year or two ago Dana calls all of the plays.

I don't think playing calling has been as big of an issues as the pass games ineptness. I think it is a big portion of poor pass game-planing.

You can correlate play calling aptitude with the players running the plays. No one complained about play calling when we had an offense with CK, Hubert, Lockett, and Harper. They are having a harder time putting players in a position to succeed because the players aren't as good. I feel like we still have the mentality about play calling and offensive strategy as we did in 2012, that's obviously problematic.

[star seed 7]

I think at this point I care more about Brucetball.

Tries too hard to be edgey

[EMAWican]

I think at this point I care more about Brucetball.

Tries too hard to be edgey

At this point we have the first basketball game of the season versus a football bye week. That's not trying to be edgey.

[The Whale]

Do they really put in THAT much work? Anymore than any other CFB coach?  I doubt it.

Combined they get paid like a top 10 OC, so I'd hope so, but probably not.

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[delerioustyme]

I have been told that as of a year or two ago Dana calls all of the plays.

I don't know how it works, but even if Dimel is calling ALL the plays, it seems possible that there would be political/personal pressure to call some passing plays for the passing game coordinator.

That seems as good of an explanation as any in terms of why we came out passing the ball last year against TCU in the second half--Dimel wanted to keep Miller happy by throwing some (passing) bones to him.

Technically Coleman is the passing game coordinator and Dickey is the run game coordinator.  Look it up, I'm not bs'ing you. Dana is RB and TE's coach Co Offensive Coordinator, and Del is QB's and Co Offensive coordinator.  Coleman WRs and pass game.  Dickey Oline and Run game. 


Damn!  He trippin' so hard fans are gonna think he done fell off!

[Rage Against the McKee]

Do they really put in THAT much work? Anymore than any other CFB coach?  I doubt it.

Combined they get paid like a top 10 OC, so I'd hope so, but probably not.

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They probably sit down together and each do half the work of a top 10 OC, then tell each other what they did and go home.