Post election predictions.

[MakeItRain]

Fair enough

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Cold War II and selling secrets for cash seemed pretty risky.

[Emo EMAW]

Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.

I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit...  If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.

What specific fears are overblown?

You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.

Really?  Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.

Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.

She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm.  I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late. 

And rusty nailed the privacy concern.  I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been.  I could be wrong though.  Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first. 

[star seed 7]

I have no problem labeling most trump voters as racists, especially the ones on this board since I "know" them the best.

Ipa is the only one that puzzles me. Seems like a nice guy, family man, and america lover. I just don't get it.

[MakeItRain]

Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.

I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit...  If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.

What specific fears are overblown?

You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.

Really?  Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.

Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.

She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm.  I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late. 

And rusty nailed the privacy concern.  I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been.  I could be wrong though.  Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.

That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.

[star seed 7]

Like, just look at the trump voters on this board. Cat27, fanning, dax, fsd, shellsquawk, racistwillie, stunz, etc...  They all have shown very weird racial hangups, particularly towards blacks.

[michigancat]

And rusty nailed the privacy concern.  I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been.  I could be wrong though.  Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first. 

I mean we've heard rumors of Rudy Guliani as Trump's Attorney General and he has advocated torturing prisoners and bombing family members of people he has decided are terrorists. You think he'd have a problem with a little more wiretapping?

[Mrs. Gooch]

A bunch of Trump supporters are racists, bigots, misogynists, and/or homophobes. Many probably don't think of themselves that way or even act that way in general everyday life, but if you want a racist, bigot, misogynist, homophobe to be president then you are at least a little bit racist, bigoted, misogynist or homophobic.

Trump needed more than just out right white male racists to win. He also needed people who were too stupid or short sighted or disengaged to understand what electing this type of man means for themselves or other Americans.

Honestly, the most troubling part is not what Trump's policies will be (although that's a concern) but the fact that there exist so many people in this country that support his views.

[Emo EMAW]

Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.

I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit...  If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.

What specific fears are overblown?

You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.

Really?  Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.

Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.

She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm.  I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late. 

And rusty nailed the privacy concern.  I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been.  I could be wrong though.  Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.

That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.

Absolutely it does, but whatever. 

[CNS]

And rusty nailed the privacy concern.  I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been.  I could be wrong though.  Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first. 

I mean we've heard rumors of Rudy Guliani as Trump's Attorney General and he has advocated torturing prisoners and bombing family members of people he has decided are terrorists. You think he'd have a problem with a little more wiretapping?

Trump also noted that he thinks stop and frisk should be national and could be appointing the stop and frisk king to AG. 

[Spracne]

Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.

I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit...  If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.

What specific fears are overblown?

You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.

Really?  Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.

Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.

She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm.  I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late. 

And rusty nailed the privacy concern.  I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been.  I could be wrong though.  Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.

That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.

Absolutely it does, but whatever.

I see it as more of a due process violation.

[Emo EMAW]

Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.

I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit...  If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.

What specific fears are overblown?

You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.

Really?  Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.

Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.

She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm.  I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late. 

And rusty nailed the privacy concern.  I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been.  I could be wrong though.  Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.

That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.

Absolutely it does, but whatever.

I see it as more of a due process violation.

That's the shrooms talking buddy.

[MakeItRain]

Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.

I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit...  If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.

What specific fears are overblown?

You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.

Really?  Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.

Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.

She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm.  I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late. 

And rusty nailed the privacy concern.  I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been.  I could be wrong though.  Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.

That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.

Absolutely it does, but whatever.

Do you know what the second amendment reads? Every amendment has provisions guiding them, every single one. I can't legally walk up to you and tell you I'm going to murder you then chop you up and feed you to pigs. Does that violate the first amendment?

[MakeItRain]

Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.

I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit...  If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.

What specific fears are overblown?

You can't have a overblown fear; fear is in the eye of the beholder. Some people have a warped sense of what the fallout of what the next four years will be but its understandable because they're scared. Trump's rhetoric did this as he needs to fix it. I didn't vote for Hillary but people didn't fear that their rights would be infringed upon during a Hillary Clinton presidency.

Really?  Maybe fear is a strong word, there was certainly some concern there.

Enlighten me as to what rights could be perceived as under siege because of the words of Hillary Clinton. To save time and bullshit don't even say a word about the second amendment because she has never threatened to repeal that, let's not carry the water for the NRA.

She has proposed policy that would violate the 2nd amendment, such as preventing people on a no-fly list for example from being able to purchase a firearm.  I actually think Trump may have gone that way too, late. 

And rusty nailed the privacy concern.  I don't think Trump will be worse than Hillary would have been.  I could be wrong though.  Tough to say without seeing a cabinet first.

That doesn't violate the second amendment, jfc.

Absolutely it does, but whatever.

I see it as more of a due process violation.

I don't agree with that either but a sound argument could be made for it. Saying it violates the second amendment is moronic, paste eating, NRA rhetoric.

[Spracne]

Deprivation of a right/privilege without due process of law, but w/e.

[Emo EMAW]

It's semantics, and who cares what number the right has next to it.  A right is a right, and people had concerns she would try to deprive them of some of them.  Case closed.

[TheHamburglar]

Trump's supporters aren't necessarily all racist misogynist homophobes, but they definitely supported one.

I supposed I can understand that feeling. I think the fears are a bit over-blown though. Everyone probably just needs to relax a bit...  If anyone really needs to be blamed here it's Joe Biden.

Biden doesn't need to be blamed for crap.  His son had just passed away at the beginning of primary season.

[Skipper44]

yes, the uninspired choice of Kaine as VP is the smoking gun imo

[gatoveintisiete]

I hate to see moderate caftans so upset, keep your chin up people, 45 gave a great unifying speech last night.  He intends to work hard for all of us, he's a great guy and you will see that in time.

[Tobias]

I have no problem labeling most trump voters as racists, especially the ones on this board since I "know" them the best.

Ipa is the only one that puzzles me. Seems like a nice guy, family man, and america lover. I just don't get it.

millions of IPA4Me's are what were completely underrepresented and ultimately smoked hilldawg.  silence on any support for trump and then once it was safe to come out, oh hi guys

[Gooch]

I have no problem labeling most trump voters as racists, especially the ones on this board since I "know" them the best.

Ipa is the only one that puzzles me. Seems like a nice guy, family man, and america lover. I just don't get it.

millions of IPA4Me's are what were completely underrepresented and ultimately smoked hilldawg.  silence on any support for trump and then once it was safe to come out, oh hi guys

Yep, all these "undecided" voters were just Trump'rs not willing to come out of the closet.

[star seed 7]

I have no problem labeling most trump voters as racists, especially the ones on this board since I "know" them the best.

Ipa is the only one that puzzles me. Seems like a nice guy, family man, and america lover. I just don't get it.

millions of IPA4Me's are what were completely underrepresented and ultimately smoked hilldawg.  silence on any support for trump and then once it was safe to come out, oh hi guys

I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of IPA4Me

[mocat]

iirc from the beer thread, IPA4ME has a horrible looking deck and a fantastic looking tile backsplash

[MakeItRain]

The Dow is up. There were reports from the floor of the NYSE that during the Clinton speech that she was booed and they chanted "lock her up."

[CNS]

There is nothing but an extremely ripe opportunity for a few loud lib voices to turn into the next Rush or Hannity. 

R's in house, senate, and WH.