With all of this trash talk on CSU, Do we still deserve to be a P5 school?

[EMAWgasm]

Our new $240 million football stadium will have a capacity of 41,000 and is easily expandable to the mid-50s.

Unfortunately this is incorrect.  It'll be a nice stadium though (because it was designed by KStaters  ).

[Mike from Ft. Collins]

Our new $240 million football stadium will have a capacity of 41,000 and is easily expandable to the mid-50s.

Unfortunately this is incorrect.  It'll be a nice stadium though (because it was designed by KStaters  ).

Actually it is and, yes, it will be a nice stadium that will be serving good beer on the "Pitkin Porch."  When we're conference mates in a couple years, you'll see.

[Mike from Ft. Collins]

K-State: Over 40,000 Season Ticket Holders

CSU:  10,000 Season Ticket Holders

FY 2015 Cash Contributions to Athletics:

K-State:  $34 million in cash and cash equivalents (stocks). 

CSU:  $13 million (not sure if all cash or promise to give)

CSU doesn't inflate their season ticket holder numbers by including the students.  Nice try though.

[scottwildcat]

Even if you subtract students that's still over 32,000 to 10,000.

[scottwildcat]

Also CSU lets their students in for free. such crap athletics students wouldn't spend a dime to go to the games.

[MadCat]

I look forward to drinking the good beers, RamSack. 

[BostonPancake]

Our new $240 million football stadium will have a capacity of 41,000 and is easily expandable to the mid-50s.

Can you elaborate on the ease of the expansion?  Is it like a table that pulls apart in the middle and you just slide in a section of stands that holds 5000 people?  Can a couple of groundskeepers or stadium personell convert it in about 30 minutes, of which 20 of those minutes are spent trying to find the extra expansion stands under the stairs or in the basement? 

Or, is it more like those fold out stands that they have in high school gyms, or just a tarp of 10,000 fans sitting in the stands that they can string up from the light standards?

[Mike from Ft. Collins]

Also CSU lets their students in for free. such crap athletics students wouldn't spend a dime to go to the games.

This is not true either.  Each student pays an athletic fee regardless of whether they attend games or not.  This covers admission costs to home games for all sports.

The lone exception is neutral site games such as the KSU/CSU BB game at the Pepsi Center and the CU/CSU FB game at Mile High.  Students pay to attend those games.

[Mike from Ft. Collins]

Our new $240 million football stadium will have a capacity of 41,000 and is easily expandable to the mid-50s.

Can you elaborate on the ease of the expansion?  Is it like a table that pulls apart in the middle and you just slide in a section of stands that holds 5000 people?  Can a couple of groundskeepers or stadium personell convert it in about 30 minutes, of which 20 of those minutes are spent trying to find the extra expansion stands under the stairs or in the basement? 

Or, is it more like those fold out stands that they have in high school gyms, or just a tarp of 10,000 fans sitting in the stands that they can string up from the light standards?

The plans for expansion have not been made public, but CSU officials have said the new stadium was designed to be easily expandable.  What I've been told by someone closer to the sources than I is that the south bowl will be completely closed off and that there is room to add another deck on the east side. 

There is a ton of room on the north side and the north bowl could be closed off if they put a curve in the road (like Florida did for their stadium), but I know they like how the stadium opens up to the heart of the campus.  So, I'm not sure of whether closing the north side off is on the table should expansion happen. 

[bonercat]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/wgE9Sap11FM[/youtube]

If they can get Bradlee Van Pelt back, I'd help roll the carpet out to them right now

[Mike from Ft. Collins]

I look forward to drinking the good beers, RamSack. 

I'm looking forward to tailgating with some K-State fans.  Like I said in another post, my roots are in Kansas.  Cool people are welcome to stop by and have a beer at my tailgate.

[Mike from Ft. Collins]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/wgE9Sap11FM[/youtube]

If they can get Bradlee Van Pelt back, I'd help roll the carpet out to them right now

Nothing pisses off CU fans more than that!  They still talk about how classless BVP was and I love it!

[EMAWgasm]

Our new $240 million football stadium will have a capacity of 41,000 and is easily expandable to the mid-50s.

Unfortunately this is incorrect.  It'll be a nice stadium though (because it was designed by KStaters  ).

Actually it is and, yes, it will be a nice stadium that will be serving good beer on the "Pitkin Porch."  When we're conference mates in a couple years, you'll see.

Meh, ok you must know more than me then    We're topping out this Tuesday, maybe I'll see you at the ceremony 

[Mike from Ft. Collins]

K-State:  Over $200 million in new and renovated facilities over the last 4 years, only $80 million financed with bonds, the rest paid for with cash contributions and athletic department revenue.    Specific to K-State's football facilities:   $170 million in improvements in the last 4 years and only $50 to $60 million financed with bonds, the remainder paid for with cash contributions and athletic department revenues.   

CSU:   All $220 million dollars of the stadium was financed with bonds, to be offset by future donations and premium amenities sales.

CSU raised $86 million so far towards the new $220 million stadium.

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2016/08/05/new-csu-stadium-solid-financial-ground-5-7-years/88297162/

[sonofdaxjones]

K-State:  Over $200 million in new and renovated facilities over the last 4 years, only $80 million financed with bonds, the rest paid for with cash contributions and athletic department revenue.    Specific to K-State's football facilities:   $170 million in improvements in the last 4 years and only $50 to $60 million financed with bonds, the remainder paid for with cash contributions and athletic department revenues.   

CSU:   All $220 million dollars of the stadium was financed with bonds, to be offset by future donations and premium amenities sales.

CSU raised $86 million so far towards the new $220 million stadium.

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2016/08/05/new-csu-stadium-solid-financial-ground-5-7-years/88297162/

That's great, but that money is just going to cover the debt payments for 5-7 years.   CSU athletics has nearly 3x the debt load of K-State athletics and about half the operating revenue.

[ednksu]

K-State:  Over $200 million in new and renovated facilities over the last 4 years, only $80 million financed with bonds, the rest paid for with cash contributions and athletic department revenue.    Specific to K-State's football facilities:   $170 million in improvements in the last 4 years and only $50 to $60 million financed with bonds, the remainder paid for with cash contributions and athletic department revenues.   

CSU:   All $220 million dollars of the stadium was financed with bonds, to be offset by future donations and premium amenities sales.

CSU raised $86 million so far towards the new $220 million stadium.

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2016/08/05/new-csu-stadium-solid-financial-ground-5-7-years/88297162/

That's great, but that money is just going to cover the debt payments for 5-7 years.   CSU athletics has nearly 3x the debt load of K-State athletics and about half the operating revenue.

Yeah but give credit where credit is due.  At least they didn't leverage the local Boys and Girls club and county parks and rec to build their facilities.

[sonofdaxjones]

K-State:  Over $200 million in new and renovated facilities over the last 4 years, only $80 million financed with bonds, the rest paid for with cash contributions and athletic department revenue.    Specific to K-State's football facilities:   $170 million in improvements in the last 4 years and only $50 to $60 million financed with bonds, the remainder paid for with cash contributions and athletic department revenues.   

CSU:   All $220 million dollars of the stadium was financed with bonds, to be offset by future donations and premium amenities sales.

CSU raised $86 million so far towards the new $220 million stadium.

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2016/08/05/new-csu-stadium-solid-financial-ground-5-7-years/88297162/

That's great, but that money is just going to cover the debt payments for 5-7 years.   CSU athletics has nearly 3x the debt load of K-State athletics and about half the operating revenue.

Yeah but give credit where credit is due.  At least they didn't leverage the local Boys and Girls club and county parks and rec to build their facilities.

This is true.