Interesting piece on the rejection of shared science

[Kat Kid]

like, some of you may have some valid points but they get lost because you converse with each other like a bunch of downgrades. just an fyi.

Problem is that one side can't interact with society in an educated manner and can only recite talking points and refuses to look at peer reviewed information.

Hey honey could you turn the TV down I'm trying to pore over these peer reviewed studies on man made climate change and develop my own talking points for message boarding.

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[The Big Train]

[renocat]

If science wasn't being mated to wild environmental earther first religion, people might be more accepting.  Why the hell do we have to destroy the real to try to achieve some unattainable Pollyanna nirvana.  I will be damn if I am going to live in some earth hole shelter, crap on a compost pile, and.eat.goat cheese.

[The Big Train]

Earther first religion is a new one

[steve dave]

[slobber]

Nate is mumped.


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[ednksu]

If science wasn't being mated to wild environmental earther first religion, people might be more accepting.  Why the hell do we have to destroy the real to try to achieve some unattainable Pollyanna nirvana.  I will be damn if I am going to live in some earth hole shelter, crap on a compost pile, and.eat.goat cheese.

If we made the switch to renewable we would live in a world that is cleaner, more secure, and less prone to economic volatility.  Why don't you want that?  We're talking short term job issues of less than 20 years at worst, or a handful if we fully fund renewables and rebuilding our infrastructure.  What is not to like about that?  *waits for oil company talking points*

[Rage Against the McKee]

If science wasn't being mated to wild environmental earther first religion, people might be more accepting.  Why the hell do we have to destroy the real to try to achieve some unattainable Pollyanna nirvana.  I will be damn if I am going to live in some earth hole shelter, crap on a compost pile, and.eat.goat cheese.

If we made the switch to renewable we would live in a world that is cleaner, more secure, and less prone to economic volatility.  Why don't you want that?  We're talking short term job issues of less than 20 years at worst, or a handful if we fully fund renewables and rebuilding our infrastructure.  What is not to like about that?  *waits for oil company talking points*

Making the switch to 100% renewable energy would make us far more prone to economic volatility. Just look at what drought has done to Venezuela. I would also consider job issues lasting 20 years as more of a long-term problem.

[SkinnyBenny]

If science wasn't being mated to wild environmental earther first religion, people might be more accepting.  Why the hell do we have to destroy the real to try to achieve some unattainable Pollyanna nirvana.  I will be damn if I am going to live in some earth hole shelter, crap on a compost pile, and.eat.goat cheese.

If we made the switch to renewable we would live in a world that is cleaner, more secure, and less prone to economic volatility.  Why don't you want that?  We're talking short term job issues of less than 20 years at worst, or a handful if we fully fund renewables and rebuilding our infrastructure.  What is not to like about that?  *waits for oil company talking points*

Making the switch to 100% renewable energy would make us far more prone to economic volatility. Just look at what drought has done to Venezuela. I would also consider job issues lasting 20 years as more of a long-term problem.

depleting the earth of its non-renewable resources is definitely not a long-term problem, though.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If science wasn't being mated to wild environmental earther first religion, people might be more accepting.  Why the hell do we have to destroy the real to try to achieve some unattainable Pollyanna nirvana.  I will be damn if I am going to live in some earth hole shelter, crap on a compost pile, and.eat.goat cheese.

If we made the switch to renewable we would live in a world that is cleaner, more secure, and less prone to economic volatility.  Why don't you want that?  We're talking short term job issues of less than 20 years at worst, or a handful if we fully fund renewables and rebuilding our infrastructure.  What is not to like about that?  *waits for oil company talking points*

Making the switch to 100% renewable energy would make us far more prone to economic volatility. Just look at what drought has done to Venezuela. I would also consider job issues lasting 20 years as more of a long-term problem.

depleting the earth of its non-renewable resources is definitely not a long-term problem, though.

It's a future problem.

[Emo EMAW]

If science wasn't being mated to wild environmental earther first religion, people might be more accepting.  Why the hell do we have to destroy the real to try to achieve some unattainable Pollyanna nirvana.  I will be damn if I am going to live in some earth hole shelter, crap on a compost pile, and.eat.goat cheese.

If we made the switch to renewable we would live in a world that is cleaner, more secure, and less prone to economic volatility.  Why don't you want that?  We're talking short term job issues of less than 20 years at worst, or a handful if we fully fund renewables and rebuilding our infrastructure.  What is not to like about that?  *waits for oil company talking points*

Making the switch to 100% renewable energy would make us far more prone to economic volatility. Just look at what drought has done to Venezuela. I would also consider job issues lasting 20 years as more of a long-term problem.

depleting the earth of its non-renewable resources is definitely not a long-term problem, though.

You mean like water, aluminum, copper, gold, etc etc?

[ednksu]

If science wasn't being mated to wild environmental earther first religion, people might be more accepting.  Why the hell do we have to destroy the real to try to achieve some unattainable Pollyanna nirvana.  I will be damn if I am going to live in some earth hole shelter, crap on a compost pile, and.eat.goat cheese.

If we made the switch to renewable we would live in a world that is cleaner, more secure, and less prone to economic volatility.  Why don't you want that?  We're talking short term job issues of less than 20 years at worst, or a handful if we fully fund renewables and rebuilding our infrastructure.  What is not to like about that?  *waits for oil company talking points*

Making the switch to 100% renewable energy would make us far more prone to economic volatility. Just look at what drought has done to Venezuela. I would also consider job issues lasting 20 years as more of a long-term problem.

depleting the earth of its non-renewable resources is definitely not a long-term problem, though.

You mean like water, aluminum, copper, gold, etc etc?

Good think you can't recycle aluminum into usable materials again...

[ednksu]

If science wasn't being mated to wild environmental earther first religion, people might be more accepting.  Why the hell do we have to destroy the real to try to achieve some unattainable Pollyanna nirvana.  I will be damn if I am going to live in some earth hole shelter, crap on a compost pile, and.eat.goat cheese.

If we made the switch to renewable we would live in a world that is cleaner, more secure, and less prone to economic volatility.  Why don't you want that?  We're talking short term job issues of less than 20 years at worst, or a handful if we fully fund renewables and rebuilding our infrastructure.  What is not to like about that?  *waits for oil company talking points*

Making the switch to 100% renewable energy would make us far more prone to economic volatility. Just look at what drought has done to Venezuela. I would also consider job issues lasting 20 years as more of a long-term problem.

This doesn't make sense.  Also the job issues would be 20 years tops, that is why you see Saudi Arabia and Qatar trying to move away from oil revenues.

[EMAWican]

If science wasn't being mated to wild environmental earther first religion, people might be more accepting.  Why the hell do we have to destroy the real to try to achieve some unattainable Pollyanna nirvana.  I will be damn if I am going to live in some earth hole shelter, crap on a compost pile, and.eat.goat cheese.

If we made the switch to renewable we would live in a world that is cleaner, more secure, and less prone to economic volatility.  Why don't you want that?  We're talking short term job issues of less than 20 years at worst, or a handful if we fully fund renewables and rebuilding our infrastructure.  What is not to like about that?  *waits for oil company talking points*

Making the switch to 100% renewable energy would make us far more prone to economic volatility. Just look at what drought has done to Venezuela. I would also consider job issues lasting 20 years as more of a long-term problem.

This doesn't make sense.  Also the job issues would be 20 years tops, that is why you see Saudi Arabia and Qatar trying to move away from oil revenues.

Saudi Arabia and Qatar are moving away from oil because they don't have enough cash to run their countries thanks to $50 oil.

[sonofdaxjones]

OMG, Whackadoodle is utterly incapable of even basic economic thought.    I can't even call him Captain Obvious anymore.

[ednksu]

If science wasn't being mated to wild environmental earther first religion, people might be more accepting.  Why the hell do we have to destroy the real to try to achieve some unattainable Pollyanna nirvana.  I will be damn if I am going to live in some earth hole shelter, crap on a compost pile, and.eat.goat cheese.

If we made the switch to renewable we would live in a world that is cleaner, more secure, and less prone to economic volatility.  Why don't you want that?  We're talking short term job issues of less than 20 years at worst, or a handful if we fully fund renewables and rebuilding our infrastructure.  What is not to like about that?  *waits for oil company talking points*

Making the switch to 100% renewable energy would make us far more prone to economic volatility. Just look at what drought has done to Venezuela. I would also consider job issues lasting 20 years as more of a long-term problem.

This doesn't make sense.  Also the job issues would be 20 years tops, that is why you see Saudi Arabia and Qatar trying to move away from oil revenues.

Saudi Arabia and Qatar are moving away from oil because they don't have enough cash to run their countries thanks to $50 oil.

Wrong in this conversation.
Saudi, ironically, 2025 plan
http://vision.cer.uz/Data/lib/vision_texts/Saudi_Arabia/SAUD_Long_Term_Strategy_2025_October_2007.pdf
And longer
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/25/saudi-arabia-approves-ambitious-plan-to-move-economy-beyond-oil


Qatar’s plan
http://www.gsdp.gov.qa/gsdp_vision/docs/NDS_EN.pdf
http://m.gulf-times.com/story/420522/Private-sector-key-to-Qatar-s-economic-diversifica

[ednksu]

OMG, Whackadoodle is utterly incapable of even basic economic thought.    I can't even call him Captain Obvious anymore.

read a book you rough ridin' idiot

[_33]

Let's keep it civil guys.  Remember, none of this stuff matters in the least.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Who would have thought a switch was the difference between economic green energy utopia, and immediate fossil fuel death?

[ednksu]

Who would have thought a switch was the difference between economic green energy utopia, and immediate fossil fuel death?

I believe I said a handful of years if we go full bore commitment and 20 years otherwise.

[ednksu]

Let's keep it civil guys.  Remember, none of this stuff matters in the least.

I'm sick of the ignorant cuck following me into threads and tarting things up.

[Ptolemy]

If we made the switch to renewable we would live in a world that is cleaner, more secure, and less prone to economic volatility.  Why don't you want that?  We're talking short term job issues of less than 20 years at worst, or a handful if we fully fund renewables and rebuilding our infrastructure.  What is not to like about that?  *waits for oil company talking points*

First, fossil fuels are renewable, the world is clean now and will be for thousands of years hence, the world is secure, and economic involatility comes from bad government not bad energy. Why endure ANY "job issues" in pursuit of unproven Pollyanna junk science?

[steve dave]

ha, classic ptolemy

[EMAWican]

If science wasn't being mated to wild environmental earther first religion, people might be more accepting.  Why the hell do we have to destroy the real to try to achieve some unattainable Pollyanna nirvana.  I will be damn if I am going to live in some earth hole shelter, crap on a compost pile, and.eat.goat cheese.

If we made the switch to renewable we would live in a world that is cleaner, more secure, and less prone to economic volatility.  Why don't you want that?  We're talking short term job issues of less than 20 years at worst, or a handful if we fully fund renewables and rebuilding our infrastructure.  What is not to like about that?  *waits for oil company talking points*

Making the switch to 100% renewable energy would make us far more prone to economic volatility. Just look at what drought has done to Venezuela. I would also consider job issues lasting 20 years as more of a long-term problem.

This doesn't make sense.  Also the job issues would be 20 years tops, that is why you see Saudi Arabia and Qatar trying to move away from oil revenues.

Saudi Arabia and Qatar are moving away from oil because they don't have enough cash to run their countries thanks to $50 oil.

Wrong in this conversation.
Saudi, ironically, 2025 plan
http://vision.cer.uz/Data/lib/vision_texts/Saudi_Arabia/SAUD_Long_Term_Strategy_2025_October_2007.pdf
And longer
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/25/saudi-arabia-approves-ambitious-plan-to-move-economy-beyond-oil


Qatar’s plan
http://www.gsdp.gov.qa/gsdp_vision/docs/NDS_EN.pdf
http://m.gulf-times.com/story/420522/Private-sector-key-to-Qatar-s-economic-diversifica

Using counties where like 97% of their revenue comes from oil as the reverse example of why making a switch to 100% renewables is economically viable is dumb. Saudi Arabia is projecting to run out of cash in less than 5 years and Qatar is hanging by a thread.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I didn't read any of Edna's articles, but don't the problems in the OPEC countries stem from the glut of oil being produced from nontraditional oil extraction methods around the world? I can't' believe that renewable energy has any affect on oil revenue at all.