2016 Big 12 Awards

[Clevey 2 Times]

I'd vote Tubby mainly because it makes oscar look worse.

In the end, who rough ridin' cares, other than making oscar look worse?

[MakeItRain]

Part of the implication is that its harder to win at Tech than it is at KU.

Well that's a poor implication, either way I don't know what that has to do with Bill Self getting the best players for his system and winning with them every damn year. As shitty as Lubbock is you think its much easier to get players Ames, Lawrence, Manhattan, Morgantown, Stillwater, Waco, and Norman?

[michigancat]

The strength of the league top to bottom made winning the conference more impressive than a typical year. KU dealt with two other kenpom top 10 teams and three more in the top thirty and still won by two games while playing a true round robin. It's pretty ridiculous.

[Mixed-Nutz]

The strength of the league top to bottom made winning the conference more impressive than a typical year. KU dealt with two other kenpom top 10 teams and three more in the top thirty and still won by two games while playing a true round robin. It's pretty ridiculous.

This was there most impressive year. Back to number 2 in kenpom after two disappointing years.

[michigancat]

2010 was pretty ridiculous but no true round robin.

[Cartierfor3]

Part of the implication is that its harder to win at Tech than it is at KU.

Well that's a poor implication, either way I don't know what that has to do with Bill Self getting the best players for his system and winning with them every damn year. As shitty as Lubbock is you think its much easier to get players Ames, Lawrence, Manhattan, Morgantown, Stillwater, Waco, and Norman?

I would've voted for Self, but IMO Tech is the worst place to recruit to when you factor in location, basketball history, brand recognition, and in state competition.

[TownieCat]

What Tubby did is even more impressive when you consider that they started Big 12 play 2-6.

[pissclams]

there's nothing impressive about finishing in 7th place in a top heavy b12

[pissclams]

or maybe the b12 is better described as bottom heavy.
where tech finished says more about k-state and osu than it does about texas tech. 

[Mixed-Nutz]

Celebrating Tuby just increase the likely hood of celebrating oscar next year. Should know better.

[CHONGS]

The Cats will be preseason #7 I suspect

Teams ahead: KU, Texas, OU, ISU, WVU, BAY
Teams behind: Tech, TCU, OSU

[ksupamplemousse]

The Cats will be preseason #7 I suspect

Teams ahead: KU, Texas, OU, ISU, WVU, BAY
Teams behind: Tech, TCU, OSU

I bet we'll be predicted to finish 8th again. OSU has the best underclassmen PG in the league, and they are bringing in a very solid recruiting class. Not to mention, I'm assuming they get Phil Forte back for another year. They should actually be pretty salty next year.

[MakeItRain]

Part of the implication is that its harder to win at Tech than it is at KU.

Well that's a poor implication, either way I don't know what that has to do with Bill Self getting the best players for his system and winning with them every damn year. As shitty as Lubbock is you think its much easier to get players Ames, Lawrence, Manhattan, Morgantown, Stillwater, Waco, and Norman?

I would've voted for Self, but IMO Tech is the worst place to recruit to when you factor in location, basketball history, brand recognition, and in state competition.

None of that stuff matters if you have the right coach. Basketball history and in state competition doesn't matter at all. College basketball players will literally go anywhere to play for the coach they want. Bill Walker would have followed Huggins to Weber State if he had to, Beasley was going to follow 'Te to Charlotte.

[MakeItRain]

The Cats will be preseason #7 I suspect

Teams ahead: KU, Texas, OU, ISU, WVU, BAY
Teams behind: Tech, TCU, OSU

I bet we'll be predicted to finish 8th again. OSU has the best underclassmen PG in the league, and they are bringing in a very solid recruiting class. Not to mention, I'm assuming they get Phil Forte back for another year. They should actually be pretty salty next year.

Tech will be picked ahead of us, I know we were the youngest team in the history of American sports but they're returning more minutes and scoring than we are.

[Cire]

how many conference games is ku an underdog in?

[michigancat]

The Cats will be preseason #7 I suspect

Teams ahead: KU, Texas, OU, ISU, WVU, BAY
Teams behind: Tech, TCU, OSU

I bet we'll be predicted to finish 8th again. OSU has the best underclassmen PG in the league, and they are bringing in a very solid recruiting class. Not to mention, I'm assuming they get Phil Forte back for another year. They should actually be pretty salty next year.

Tech will be picked ahead of us, I know we were the youngest team in the history of American sports but they're returning more minutes and scoring than we are.

amazing!

[TownieCat]

The conference as a whole is going to take a big step back next year. 13 of the 28 players who received all conference recognition were seniors.

[Mixed-Nutz]

The conference as a whole is going to take a big step back next year. 13 of the 28 players who received all conference recognition were seniors.

FWIW, Big 12 recruiting classes this year kinda of suck ass.

[kso_FAN]

The Cats will be preseason #7 I suspect

Teams ahead: KU, Texas, OU, ISU, WVU, BAY
Teams behind: Tech, TCU, OSU

I bet we'll be predicted to finish 8th again. OSU has the best underclassmen PG in the league, and they are bringing in a very solid recruiting class. Not to mention, I'm assuming they get Phil Forte back for another year. They should actually be pretty salty next year.

Tech will be picked ahead of us, I know we were the youngest team in the history of American sports but they're returning more minutes and scoring than we are.

amazing!

We actually return slightly more of both, but its pretty much a wash.

[kso_FAN]

Media:

FIRST TEAM:

Perry Ellis, Kansas, Sr., 6-8, 225, Wichita, Kansas.

Buddy Hield, Oklahoma, Sr., 6-4, 214, Freeport, Bahamas.

Monte Morris, Iowa St., Jr., 6-3, 175, Flint, Michigan.

Georges Niang, Iowa St., Sr., 6-8, 230, Methuen, Massachusetts.

Isaiah Taylor, Texas, Jr., 6-3, 185, South Hayward, California.

SECOND TEAM*:

Rico Gathers, Baylor, Sr., 6-8, 275, LaPlace, Louisiana.

Frank Mason III, Kansas, Jr., 5-11, 185, Petersburg, Virginia.

Jaysean Paige, West Virginia, Sr., 6-2, 210, Jamestown, New York.

Taurean Prince, Baylor, Sr., 6-8, 220, San Antonio.

Ryan Spangler, Oklahoma, Sr., 6-8, 234, Bridge Creek, Oklahoma.

Devin Williams, West Virginia, Jr., 6-9, 255, Cincinnati.

*Six players due to a tie for the final spot.

HONARABLE MENTION: Isaiah Cousins, Oklahoma; Devonte' Graham, Kansas; Lester Medford, Baylor; Aaron Ross, Texas Tech; Wayne Selden, Kansas; Jordan Woodard, Oklahoma.

COACH OF THE YEAR: Bill Self, Kansas.

PLAYER OF THE YEAR: Buddy Hield, Oklahoma.

NEWCOMER OF THE YEAR: Deonte Burton, Iowa St.

Voters: Tommy Birch, Des Moines Register; Jimmy Burch, Fort Worth Star-Telegram; Chuck Carlton, Dallas Morning News; Mark Cooper, Tulsa World; Brian Davis, Austin American-Statesman; Guerin Emig, Tulsa World; Tim Griffin, San Antonio Express-News; Kevin Haskin, Topeka Capital-Journal; John Helsley, The Oklahoman; Justin Jackson, The Dominion Post; Tom Keegan, Lawrence Journal-World; Kevin Lyttle, Austin American-Statesman; Carlos Mendez, Fort Worth Star-Telegram; Randy Peterson, Des Moines Register; Soren Petro, Sports Radio 810; Krista Pirtle, Lubbock Avalanche-Journal; Kellis Robinett, Wichita Eagle; John Shinn, Norman Transcript; Mitch Vingle, Charleston Gazette-Mail; John Werner, Waco Tribune-Herald.


Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/article64532102.html#storylink=cpy

[TownieCat]

 

[Cartierfor3]

Part of the implication is that its harder to win at Tech than it is at KU.

Well that's a poor implication, either way I don't know what that has to do with Bill Self getting the best players for his system and winning with them every damn year. As shitty as Lubbock is you think its much easier to get players Ames, Lawrence, Manhattan, Morgantown, Stillwater, Waco, and Norman?

I would've voted for Self, but IMO Tech is the worst place to recruit to when you factor in location, basketball history, brand recognition, and in state competition.

None of that stuff matters if you have the right coach. Basketball history and in state competition doesn't matter at all. College basketball players will literally go anywhere to play for the coach they want. Bill Walker would have followed Huggins to Weber State if he had to, Beasley was going to follow 'Te to Charlotte.

that's true. Ben Simmons is at LSU etc

[kso_FAN]

https://twitter.com/KenCorbitt/status/706932038134308864

[Cire]

LoL


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[kso_FAN]

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