2016 Big 12 Awards

[kso_FAN]

DJamer should have been HM, but he probably didn't get enough minutes to build his stats.

Wes 3rd team is probably about right.

Dean and Barry all FR is about right, though it will be touted by many as hope for the future.

Few awards = bad team.

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AWARD   RECIPIENT
Player of the Year   Buddy Hield, Oklahoma
Coach of the Year   Tubby Smith, Texas Tech
Defensive Player of the Year   Prince Ibeh, Texas
Sixth man Award   Jaysean Paige, West Virginia**
Newcomer of the Year   Deonte Burton, Iowa State**
Freshman of the Year   Jawun Evans, Oklahoma State
** - Unanimous Selection

ALL-BIG 12 FIRST TEAM
Name   Pos.   Ht.   Wt.   Cl.   Hometown/Previous School(s)
Taurean Prince, Baylor   F   6-7   215   Sr.   San Antonio, Texas/Earl Warren
Georges Niang, Iowa State**   F   6-8   230   Sr.   Methuen, Mass./The Tilton School
Perry Ellis, Kansas**   F   6-8   225   Sr.   Wichita, Kan./Wichita Heights
Buddy Hield, Oklahoma**   G   6-4   214   Sr.   Freeport, Bahamas/Sunrise Christian Academy [Kan.]
Isaiah Taylor, Texas   G   6-3   185   Jr.   South Hayward, Calif./The Village School [Texas]
 
ALL-BIG 12 SECOND TEAM
Name   Pos.   Ht.   Wt.   Cl.   Hometown/Previous School(s)
Monté Morris, Iowa State   G   6-3   175   Jr.   Flint, Mich./Beecher
Frank Mason III, Kansas   G   5-11   185   Jr.   Petersburg, Va./Massanutten Military Academy
Wayne Selden Jr., Kansas   G   6-5   230   Jr.   Roxbury, Mass./Tilton School [N.H.]
Jaysean Paige, West Virginia   G   6-2   200   Sr.   Jamestown, N.Y./Perry County Central/Moberly Area CC
Devin Williams, West Virginia   F   6-9   255   Jr.   Cincinnati, Ohio/Montverde Academy
 
ALL-BIG 12 THIRD TEAM
Name   Pos.   Ht.   Wt.   Cl.   Hometown/Previous School(s)
Rico Gathers, Baylor   F   6-8   275   Sr.   LaPlace, La./Riverside Academy
Johnathan Motley, Baylor   F   6-9   230   So.   Houston, Texas/North Shore
Westicles, Kansas State   F   6-7   210   Jr.   Houston, Texas/Westfield
Isaiah Cousins, Oklahoma   G   6-4   200   Sr.   Mount Vernon, N.Y./Mount Vernon
Ryan Spangler, Oklahoma   F   6-8   234   Sr.   Bridge Creek, Okla./Gonzaga University
 
ALL-BIG 12 HONORABLE MENTION (Listed alphabetically by school)
Lester Medford (Baylor), Jameel McKay (Iowa State), Abdel Nader (Iowa State), Matt Thomas (Iowa State), Devonte' Graham (Kansas), Landen Lucas (Kansas), Jordan Woodard (Oklahoma), Jawun Evans (Oklahoma State), Jeff Newberry (Oklahoma State), Javan Felix (Texas), Toddrick Gotcher (Texas Tech), Aaron Ross (Texas Tech), Zach Smith (Texas Tech)
 
BIG 12 ALL-DEFENSIVE TEAM
Name   Pos.   Ht.   Wt.   Cl.   Hometown/Previous School(s)
Devonte' Graham, Kansas   G   6-2   175   So.   Raleigh, N.C./Brewster Academy [N.H.]
Frank Mason III, Kansas   G   5-11   185   Jr.   Petersburg, Va./Massanutten Military Academy
Westicles, Kansas State   F   6-7   210   Jr.   Houston, Texas/Westfield
Khadeem Lattin, Oklahoma   F   6-9   208   So.   Houston, Texas/Redemption Christian Home School Academy
Prince Ibeh, Texas**   C   6-11   265   Sr.   Garland, Texas/Naaman Forest
Jevon Carter, West Virginia   G   6-2   185   So.   Maywood, Ill./Proviso East
 
BIG 12 ALL-NEWCOMER TEAM
Name   Pos.   Ht.   Wt.   Cl.   Hometown/Previous School(s)
Deonte Burton, Iowa State**   G   6-4   250   Jr.   Milwaukee, Wis./Marquette/Vincent
The Flush, Kansas State   G   6-3   195   Fr.   St. Petersburg, Fla./Gibbs
Claws, Kansas State   F   6-10   225   Fr.   St. John, Kan./St. John
Jawun Evans, Oklahoma State   G   6-0   180   Fr.   Dallas, Texas/Kimball
Eric Davis Jr., Texas   G   6-2   185   Fr.   Saginaw, Mich./Saginaw Arthur Hill
Kerwin Roach Jr., Texas   G   6-4   170   Fr.   Houston, Texas/North Shore
** - Unanimous Selection
Ties in the voting created additional spots on the All-Defensive and All-Newcomer Teams

[MakeItRain]

Tubby as COB is absurd

[The Big Train]

Tubby as COB is absurd

Why?  They were projected last in the B12, finishing at .500 in conference is impressive.

[kso_FAN]

6 game improvement and 132 spots in kenpom....

But I would've given it to Huggs.

[michigancat]

I'd give it to Self

[wetwillie]

You all are crazy, it belongs to Shaka Smart

[Mixed-Nutz]

You all are crazy, it belongs to Shaka Smart

Shaka took a team ranked 25 in kenpom that returned roughly 50% of it minutes and finished 28 (so far). That is just under status quo.

Tech Jump is unreal. But then you are celebrating a slightly greater than bubble quality team who's best two scorers are seniors. I think it is peak year for them. Although they won't completely crash next year.

Huggins probably made the biggest meaningful jump.

[Mixed-Nutz]

Dean and Barry all FR is about right, though it will be touted by many as hope for the future.

It should be, Dean and Barry aren't the problem.

[kso_FAN]

2015-16 Big 12 Men's Basketball Preseason Poll

    Team (First-place votes)       Points
1.    Kansas (9)*   81
2.    Oklahoma   70
3.    Iowa State (1)   68
4.    Texas   51
5.    Baylor   49
6.    West Virginia   47
7.    Oklahoma State   33
8.    Kansas State   18
    TCU   18
10.    Texas Tech   

Big 12   W-L
#1 Kansas   15-3   
#10 West Virginia   13-5   
#6 Oklahoma   12-6   
#23 Texas   11-7   
#21 Iowa State   10-8   
#19 Baylor   10-8   
Texas Tech   9-9   
Kansas State   5-13   
Oklahoma State   3-15
TCU   2-16

There are different ways to look at it I suppose. Self maintaining a program that consistently wins titles is noteworthy. But I tend to look at who has done the best based on their projections, and Huggs and Tubby both had really good years.

[Kat Kid]

Self just won KU their 12th straight title.  How many COY awards does he have?  4.

[Trim]

Self just won KU their 12th straight title.  How many COY awards does he have?  4.

Pretty amazing what ku's done despite being saddled with Seff.

[renocat]

Do.they.give out.Razzy awards like.for.the movies.  That would be interesting.

[MakeItRain]

Self should win it every year they don't share the title

[The Big Train]

Self should win it every year they don't share the title

Why should just meeting expectations be rewarded?  He's exceeded them exactly one year because of a lucky shot

[420seriouscat69]

I mean I get the Self should be coy every year, but what Tubby has done is pretty incredible. Good for turtle

[MakeItRain]

Self should win it every year they don't share the title

Why should just meeting expectations be rewarded?  He's exceeded them exactly one year because of a lucky shot

If they're expected to win the conference every single year and they do it I think you just answered your own question.

[The Big Train]

Self should win it every year they don't share the title

Why should just meeting expectations be rewarded?  He's exceeded them exactly one year because of a lucky shot

If they're expected to win the conference every single year and they do it I think you just answered your own question.

Umm How?  Regardless of expectations, that award should be based on progress.

[kso_FAN]

The argument of unexpected improvement vs maintaining really high levels of success comes up often in COY debates. I'm not sure either answer is wrong or right.

In this year's Big 12 I would pick 1. Huggs 2. Tubby 3. Self.

[MakeItRain]

Self should win it every year they don't share the title

Why should just meeting expectations be rewarded?  He's exceeded them exactly one year because of a lucky shot

If they're expected to win the conference every single year and they do it I think you just answered your own question.

Umm How?  Regardless of expectations, that award should be based on progress.

How do you progress more than winning the conference every year?

[kso_FAN]

So every year the conference champion coach should win COY? That seems to be the implication.

[The Big Train]

Self should win it every year they don't share the title

Why should just meeting expectations be rewarded?  He's exceeded them exactly one year because of a lucky shot

If they're expected to win the conference every single year and they do it I think you just answered your own question.

Umm How?  Regardless of expectations, that award should be based on progress.

How do you progress more than winning the conference every year?

What I originally said, which you obviously didn't read.  He exceeded one year, and it was because of a coaches son who made a shot. Disregarding that fact is disingenuous

[MakeItRain]

The argument of unexpected improvement vs maintaining really high levels of success comes up often in COY debates. I'm not sure either answer is wrong or right.

In this year's Big 12 I would pick 1. Huggs 2. Tubby 3. Self.

Right, but what he's done isn't simply meeting some basic expectation.

[MakeItRain]

Self should win it every year they don't share the title

Why should just meeting expectations be rewarded?  He's exceeded them exactly one year because of a lucky shot

If they're expected to win the conference every single year and they do it I think you just answered your own question.

Umm How?  Regardless of expectations, that award should be based on progress.

How do you progress more than winning the conference every year?

What I originally said, which you obviously didn't read.  He exceeded one year, and it was because of a coaches son who made a shot. Disregarding that fact is disingenuous

I disregarded it because you're talking about post season and we're talking about the conference coach of the year. I hired that you would have realized your dumb ass mistake. The conference COY is awarded before the post season starts.

[Kat Kid]

So every year the conference champion coach should win COY? That seems to be the implication.

In most years that makes more sense than some guy who did better than the media thought he would do and usually runs an inferior program to the coach that won the conference.

[Cartierfor3]

Part of the implication is that its harder to win at Tech than it is at KU.