Now it has to be said. Declare your choice for President.

[MakeItRain]

I have only heard that term used in reference to Christ/Christianity and it offends me.

[Ptolemy]

Reading through this thread, it has become obvious that nearly nobody on here understands how unique and special the United STATES of America is. We are a laboratory of 50 different little countries that are largely (provided they do not deprive anyone of their Creator endowed rights) free to enact any set of laws governing the behavior of their citizens. All the problems you mention are solvable within that construct of liberty and freedom:

1. Drugs are becoming legal in some states and illegal in others.  If you don't like the drug laws in your state, you are free to move.
2. Abortion was for most of US history left to the states to legislate. When liberals swept through and magically discovered a right to kill an not-yet-viable baby in the womb in the constitution, they violated the states-as-laboratories construct and set the country on fire. Repeal Roe and the model will work again.
3. Subsidies - Planned Parenthood, ethanol, oil, and every other special interest that feeds on our tax dollars - need to be gradually shut off. The federal government should not be picking winners and losers.
4. Get the federal government off the backs of private business and industry. If I want to use an incandescent light bulb or an inefficient water heater, or run my thermostat way cold in the summer and high in the winter and take an hour long shower, I can. Energy is in unlimited supply in this world.  I find it illustrative that they always like to count to smoking deaths as reasoning for anti-smoking laws (75% of HEAVY smokers never contract lung cancer) but nobody counts all the automobile deaths resulting from CAFE standards requiring cars to be made lighter and lighter.

Thanks for letting me get that off my chest!

Ted Cruz 2016 -- Cruz/Rubio even better.

[MakeItRain]

[Ptolemy]

They should most definitely strive to find some winners(global warming being an example or alternative fuel for vehicles) and then fail quick and hard and cut off the losers.

1. Picking winners and losers is not a constitutionally-defined role of the federal government.

2. Anthropogenic Global Warming is a farcical hoax pushed by the political Left in an effort to exert control over the private economy by taxing usage of natural elements such as carbon; the basis of all human life.

[Emo EMAW]

I am okay with the government (us) sharing the risk of investing in something that 1) benefits mankind, or at least benefits Americans, and 2) that is too big a risk for people and businesses with constraints to shoulder.

[Dugout DickStone]

I have always found the FSM pretty funny.

[Ptolemy]

I am okay with the government (us) sharing the risk of investing in something that 1) benefits mankind, or at least benefits Americans, and 2) that is too big a risk for people and businesses with constraints to shoulder.

Who is the angel that decides your criteria 1 & 2 are met?

If something is worthwhile, there is more than enough money in the private sector to support it, ESPECIALLY if we implement a flat tax rate that everyone must pay.

[pvegs]

Spaghetti monster and imaginary sky god always kinda chaps my ass for some reason. Especially, coming from most liberals who feed a message of "non-judgment, peace, unity, etc." I get that there's a lot of wacko Christians out there, but man, no reason to act like ppl with faith, have the imaginative skills of a 5 year old.

i mean, i don't know what you believe, but if it's in a christian god in heaven waiting to vacuum you into the ethereal bliss after you die, then you also believe in santa claus and deserve to be judged for the analytically vacuous trogoloyte you are

See what I mean?! 

a comparison to show the absurdity. in both cases, a belief passed down to you and instead of investigating it as you got older and coming to the only rational conclusion possible - that it's not real - you accepted it as truth and proliferated the farce.

[pvegs]

also plz don't make me yr pc lib straw man. i am a huge judgmental bad person and that suits me just fine. as such, i respect everyone's right to be wrong.

[Ptolemy]

If only there was a representative legislative body for the American public with checks and balances against it.

At the federal level, they're supposed to be doing only those things specifically enumerated by the constitution. At the state level, where the real power was originally designed to be, control of the actions of the federal government should be their main focus.

Funding the wholesale genocide of humanity's most vulnerable is not one of those enumerated functions.

[IPA4Me]

also plz don't make me yr pc lib straw man. i am a huge judgmental bad person and that suits me just fine. as such, i respect everyone's right to be wrong.

No you don't. You ridicule those of faith rather than respecting that right. Face it. You're an atheist bad person that gets his jollies ridiculing someone that believes something you find illogical.

[Rage Against the McKee]

nobody counts all the automobile deaths resulting from CAFE standards requiring cars to be made lighter and lighter.

Yeah, they just count the lives saved instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year

[8manpick]

nobody counts all the automobile deaths resulting from CAFE standards requiring cars to be made lighter and lighter.

Yeah, they just count the lives saved instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year

 

[star seed 7]

also plz don't make me yr pc lib straw man. i am a huge judgmental bad person and that suits me just fine. as such, i respect everyone's right to be wrong.

No you don't. You ridicule those of faith rather than respecting that right. Face it. You're an atheist bad person that gets his jollies ridiculing someone that believes something you find illogical.

Do you respect flat earthers and Holocaust deniers?

[Ptolemy]

Yeah, they just count the lives saved instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year

Which of those lives were saved by making the cars lighter?

[IPA4Me]

also plz don't make me yr pc lib straw man. i am a huge judgmental bad person and that suits me just fine. as such, i respect everyone's right to be wrong.

No you don't. You ridicule those of faith rather than respecting that right. Face it. You're an atheist bad person that gets his jollies ridiculing someone that believes something you find illogical.

Do you respect flat earthers and Holocaust deniers?

They can believe what they want. It's not  my job to be an bad person.

[star seed 7]

God damnit I love 'lemy posts

[Asteriskhead]

 

[Ptolemy]

I think we're arguing two different topics. But whatevs. What if the fed gave the states a hw assignment and said get it done?

The idea that state's would be better to act alone on problems that are trying to go after worldwide/nationwide change sounds dumb to me. Maybe USA doesn't need to do those things tho. Maybe Cali should partner up with China

From where does the federal govt get the power to demand hw from a state govt?

State's don't necessarily have to be better to act alone. The point is that in America, they have the freedom to act alone and we the freedom to live where we wish and change those laws as nercessary. If you want to live where a huge central government directs every aspect of your life, renounce your citizenship and move to China or Cuba.

[star seed 7]

'lemy is the dude sending snacks to the Oregon guys

[mocat]

Yeah, they just count the lives saved instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year

Which of those lives were saved by making the cars lighter?

please indicate the point in time when cars became lighter and lighter

[ChiComCat]

I think we're arguing two different topics. But whatevs. What if the fed gave the states a hw assignment and said get it done?

The idea that state's would be better to act alone on problems that are trying to go after worldwide/nationwide change sounds dumb to me. Maybe USA doesn't need to do those things tho. Maybe Cali should partner up with China

From where does the federal govt get the power to demand hw from a state govt?

State's don't necessarily have to be better to act alone. The point is that in America, they have the freedom to act alone and we the freedom to live where we wish and change those laws as nercessary. If you want to live where a huge central government directs every aspect of your life, renounce your citizenship and move to China or Cuba.

Am I allowed to take the highway system to the airport?

Only if it's to ease your move to Cuba you Marxist

[Mrs. Gooch]

I think we're arguing two different topics. But whatevs. What if the fed gave the states a hw assignment and said get it done?

The idea that state's would be better to act alone on problems that are trying to go after worldwide/nationwide change sounds dumb to me. Maybe USA doesn't need to do those things tho. Maybe Cali should partner up with China

From where does the federal govt get the power to demand hw from a state govt?

State's don't necessarily have to be better to act alone. The point is that in America, they have the freedom to act alone and we the freedom to live where we wish and change those laws as nercessary. If you want to live where a huge central government directs every aspect of your life, renounce your citizenship and move to China or Cuba.

The good news is that China has suspended their "one child" policy.

[Ptolemy]

please indicate the point in time when cars became lighter and lighter

"A National Research Council report found that the standards implemented in the 1970s and 1980s resulted in an additional 1,300 to 2,600 traffic fatalities in 1993. A Harvard Center for Risk Analysis study found that CAFE standards led to 2,200 to 3,900 additional fatalities to motorists per year. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's 2007 data show a correlation of about 250-500 fatalities per year per MPG."

[Ptolemy]

The good news is that China has suspended their "one child" policy.

Now they can have 2 - might slow the infanticide of little girls some, but it's a looming disaster for them.