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Re: Now it has to be said. Declare your choice for President.
« Reply #100 on: February 01, 2016, 11:04:33 AM »
I'm pretty split on legalized drugs. Weed, ecstasy, and other "recreational"  drugs would probably benefit from some governmental oversite and standards you'd see from legalization.

Heroin, meth, etc... I just don't see the value
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« Reply #101 on: February 01, 2016, 11:05:42 AM »
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« Reply #102 on: February 01, 2016, 11:19:34 AM »
I'm pretty split on legalized drugs. Weed, ecstasy, and other "recreational"  drugs would probably benefit from some governmental oversite and standards you'd see from legalization.

Heroin, meth, etc... I just don't see the value

How do you feel about prescription drugs?  Opiates and amphetamines, specifically?
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« Reply #103 on: February 01, 2016, 11:22:00 AM »
Probably don't have enough information to form one currently.
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« Reply #104 on: February 01, 2016, 12:02:18 PM »
I think drug-related offenses should be more in line with alcohol-related offenses.

They don't have similar effects on the community

isn't that mostly due to the fact that "drugs" are illegal and alcohol is not?

What? Are you serious? No. Hell no! Do you know people who have drug addiction? I drink alcohol, one of my employees got me a six pack for Christmas and I haven't had one yet. Tell me how many casual drinkers you know now tell me how many casual meth, heroin, or crack users you know. Legalized narcotics would be sure death for poor communities. There is no surer sign of a sheltered suburbanite than someone advocating for legalization of narcotics. Take a trip to an area that has been effected by drugs,  spend a few days there and then ask yourself if these people need easier access to drugs. Go watch HBO's current doc about Cape Cod and get back to me about drug legalization; matter of fact don't watch the whole doc,  just watch the first scene.

http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/heroin-cape-cod-usa

Just watch this one scene 13:30-16:40, just 3 minutes and ask that question again

Please watch it and tell me what you think

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« Reply #105 on: February 01, 2016, 12:13:54 PM »
MIR, i do not think heroin or meth should be legal.

but the astounding number of people incarcerated for non-violent drug-related offenses is absolutely devastating to a community, no?

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« Reply #106 on: February 01, 2016, 12:29:39 PM »
MIR, i do not think heroin or meth should be legal.

but the astounding number of people incarcerated for non-violent drug-related offenses is absolutely devastating to a community, no?

Also the inability to get jobs with those offenses on your record
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« Reply #107 on: February 01, 2016, 12:39:31 PM »
What's astounding is the number of people who know the potential consequences yet take the risk anyway.  I don't care if it's non-violent or not. 

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« Reply #108 on: February 01, 2016, 12:40:44 PM »
heroin has got to just be incredible, obviously

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« Reply #109 on: February 01, 2016, 12:41:00 PM »
i would never be able to get past the needles thing tho  :Yuck:

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« Reply #110 on: February 01, 2016, 12:41:44 PM »
What's astounding is the number of people who know the potential consequences yet take the risk anyway.  I don't care if it's non-violent or not.

I feel the same way about those illegal guns you have
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« Reply #111 on: February 01, 2016, 12:42:31 PM »
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« Reply #113 on: February 01, 2016, 12:44:04 PM »
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« Reply #114 on: February 01, 2016, 12:48:43 PM »


This is the silliest thing that doesn't seem to go away. What exactly does this show negatively about Rubio?

Funnily enough, one of the other things that people hold against him was a time he threw a pass to a little dude running a route and it hit the boy in the face. His campaign released this awesome response to that. Kid totally redeems himself!



nothing. and what does obama using a teleprompter show negatively about him? yet people still bring it up constantly. there is a lot of the my team > your team bullcrap that is meaningless that heavy partisans lob out there all the time.

A little late on this one, but did you just compare taking a sip of water to not being able to give a speech without a TelePrompTer? Smart people who believe in what they're saying don't have to read a speech word for word.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: Now it has to be said. Declare your choice for President.
« Reply #115 on: February 01, 2016, 12:49:52 PM »
MIR, i do not think heroin or meth should be legal.

but the astounding number of people incarcerated for non-violent drug-related offenses is absolutely devastating to a community, no?

I started this off by saying we need sentencing reform. Is there a narcotic other than marijuana that you feel should be legal?

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« Reply #116 on: February 01, 2016, 12:50:18 PM »
I think he was saying both are non-issues (which is the correct view)
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« Reply #117 on: February 01, 2016, 12:51:49 PM »
heroin has got to just be incredible, obviously
By all accounts, several prescription alternatives are even stronger!  They are also regulated so the user knows exactly what they are getting, which would be a huge benefit to legalization of other drugs.

i would never be able to get past the needles thing tho  :Yuck:

Don't have to!
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« Reply #118 on: February 01, 2016, 12:52:24 PM »
Rand fails the first two

I think he says that because that is his compromise to be a part of the 'pub party.  I mean, he is basically the R's Bernie.

He wants to defund Planned Parenthood which interferes with my body if my body wants to go get a service from Planned Parenthood.

If by "interfere with my body" you mean cutting off tax dollars to a group that will gladly insert instruments into your body to kill a human life, and if that's actually more important to you than every other issue you posted, then I guess you'd better go Dem.
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« Reply #119 on: February 01, 2016, 12:54:01 PM »


This is the silliest thing that doesn't seem to go away. What exactly does this show negatively about Rubio?

Funnily enough, one of the other things that people hold against him was a time he threw a pass to a little dude running a route and it hit the boy in the face. His campaign released this awesome response to that. Kid totally redeems himself!



nothing. and what does obama using a teleprompter show negatively about him? yet people still bring it up constantly. there is a lot of the my team > your team bullcrap that is meaningless that heavy partisans lob out there all the time.

A little late on this one, but did you just compare taking a sip of water to not being able to give a speech without a TelePrompTer? Smart people who believe in what they're saying don't have to read a speech word for word.

The teleprompter thing is a shitbird partisan litmus test, I can't believe people are still talking about it. You can't possibly be that stupid.  I mean I get saying it as a joke but to mean it?

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« Reply #120 on: February 01, 2016, 12:55:03 PM »
Rand fails the first two

I think he says that because that is his compromise to be a part of the 'pub party.  I mean, he is basically the R's Bernie.

He wants to defund Planned Parenthood which interferes with my body if my body wants to go get a service from Planned Parenthood.

Defunding planned parenthood is stopping some of the wealth redistribution that you just said you don't want.

I said I don't want them to increase taxes by a lot to redistribute wealth. I don't mind keeping it the same or increase a little bit in order to keep poor people from getting poorer (by having unwanted kids).

I agree, but does that really go far enough? What about the kids who have already been born? Poor people should be able to take their unwanted offspring to a facility to be euthanized. At least until the age they become "viable."
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #121 on: February 01, 2016, 12:56:20 PM »
heroin has got to just be incredible, obviously
By all accounts, several prescription alternatives are even stronger!  They are also regulated so the user knows exactly what they are getting, which would be a huge benefit to legalization of other drugs.

i would never be able to get past the needles thing tho  :Yuck:

Don't have to!

A big problem right now is people getting hooked on prescription painkillers and then turning to heroin because it's cheaper and easier to get.

Happened recently to a friend of a friend and has totally ruined his life because of a back surgery or something.
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« Reply #122 on: February 01, 2016, 12:57:48 PM »


This is the silliest thing that doesn't seem to go away. What exactly does this show negatively about Rubio?

Funnily enough, one of the other things that people hold against him was a time he threw a pass to a little dude running a route and it hit the boy in the face. His campaign released this awesome response to that. Kid totally redeems himself!



nothing. and what does obama using a teleprompter show negatively about him? yet people still bring it up constantly. there is a lot of the my team > your team bullcrap that is meaningless that heavy partisans lob out there all the time.

A little late on this one, but did you just compare taking a sip of water to not being able to give a speech without a TelePrompTer? Smart people who believe in what they're saying don't have to read a speech word for word.

The teleprompter thing is a shitbird partisan litmus test, I can't believe people are still talking about it. You can't possibly be that stupid.  I mean I get saying it as a joke but to mean it?

Yeah, I do. What kind of mouth breathing idiot can't give even a short speech without reading it word for word? Did you ever take a communications class in college? That's probably the easiest jerkoff classes in college. And what do they teach you? Rule 1: don't read your damn speech off a piece of paper. It's not hard.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #123 on: February 01, 2016, 12:58:50 PM »
omg he really does care  :lol:
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« Reply #124 on: February 01, 2016, 12:59:46 PM »
Rand fails the first two

I think he says that because that is his compromise to be a part of the 'pub party.  I mean, he is basically the R's Bernie.

He wants to defund Planned Parenthood which interferes with my body if my body wants to go get a service from Planned Parenthood.

Defunding planned parenthood is stopping some of the wealth redistribution that you just said you don't want.

I said I don't want them to increase taxes by a lot to redistribute wealth. I don't mind keeping it the same or increase a little bit in order to keep poor people from getting poorer (by having unwanted kids).

I agree, but does that really go far enough? What about the kids who have already been born? Poor people should be able to take their unwanted offspring to a facility to be euthanized. At least until the age they become "viable."

They do currently have facilities that people can take their unwanted children. (not to be euthanised, but to get rid of them)