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Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« on: January 26, 2016, 10:10:07 PM »


Another shooting performance to once again set the Cats back on pace to be the worst 3PT shooting team in K-State history. The up and down frosh guard duo combined to go 3-14 from the floor, but no one else was much better. 1-18 from 3 and with 19 TOs will beat no one, WVU set the pace after the double technical fouls and it was only going to be about K-State making it respectable. We didn't.


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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2016, 10:13:30 PM »
A -0.55 difference from OSU to WVU in offensive efficiency is pretty crazy.

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2016, 10:13:47 PM »
Denis Stokes and Jacob Brown didn't have a particularly stellar evening.
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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2016, 10:39:53 PM »
Did you see where we gave up a fast break layup off a missed free throw? I have no idea how our defensive efficiency is as good as it is.

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2016, 10:42:43 PM »
Did you see where we gave up a fast break layup off a missed free throw? I have no idea how our defensive efficiency is as good as it is.

I was listening to the radio at that point, but yeah, that's really bad.

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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2016, 11:25:06 PM »
36% shooting and TO the ball just over 1/4 of the time.....That's as bad as I can remember  from a "combo of those 2 stats"

We only had 4 pts in 10:00 of game time (2-15 FGs, 7 TOs). That is putrid and we lost 10 pts on the scoreboard.  But the other 30:00 of game time weren't a whole lot better (0.88 PPP)

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2016, 11:28:33 PM »
Man, when was the last time we shot worse from 3?

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2016, 12:23:47 AM »
Man, when was the last time we shot worse from 3?
technically, 0 for anything is worse, but 1 for 18 is pretty unheard of

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2016, 12:27:24 AM »
Man, when was the last time we shot worse from 3?
technically, 0 for anything is worse, but 1 for 18 is pretty unheard of
Yeah I would guess that has been a while since we didn't make a three.

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2016, 12:36:45 AM »
Can't remember when any team was worse from 3-point range. Overall, pretty depressing.

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2016, 06:26:00 AM »
We shot 0-13 against Wisconsin in the 2008 NCAA tournament.

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2016, 07:08:48 AM »

Can't remember when any team was worse from 3-point range. Overall, pretty depressing.

Right now this year's team (.293) is only ahead of 96-97 (.288) for the race to be K-State's worst 3 pt shooting team ever.

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2016, 07:34:21 AM »
Stokes made the first 3 pt attempt and then we went 0-17.

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2016, 08:12:42 AM »
We're any of these guys shooters in high school?


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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2016, 08:12:55 AM »
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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2016, 08:33:40 AM »
It was really obvious that we can't play at the speed that WVU sped us up to and we weren't coached well enough to play at our own speed.

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2016, 08:51:21 AM »
the problem isn't with our shooters, it's with our offense.  the shot selection that our offense affords our shooters is garbage.  after passing the ball back and forth at the top of the key with nothing opening up, they're forcing up low percentage shots at or near the expiration of the shot clock.  every game.  and nothing has changed.

i used to think nothing could be uglier than frank's offense but um ya.


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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2016, 08:54:48 AM »
the problem isn't with our shooters, it's with our offense.  the shot selection that our offense affords our shooters is garbage.  after passing the ball back and forth at the top of the key with nothing opening up, they're forcing up low percentage shots at or near the expiration of the shot clock.  every game.  and nothing has changed.

i used to think nothing could be uglier than frank's offense but um ya.

What?!?!?!? Everyone has told me that Oscar's motion offense is a thing of beauty!  A sight to behold!  Frank's offense might have been ugly, but it was effective enough at a time where the game was allowed to be ugly.  What refs allow WVU to get away with after the NCAA tried to make a statement that the game is supposed to change is almost criminal.  That said, we looked like hot garbage last night and completely lost thanks to poor game planning when you know that is how they are going to play.

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2016, 09:00:44 AM »
This morning at the office I hosted a little spontaneous 3-on-3 basketCats action, complete with a door-hanging hoop and a "Squeeze Me Bro" stress ball as the rock. Besides Gigie getting posterized by Larry in Accounting, you know what I found out? That six people in business caz (two of whom claimed that they were "better at soccer") can shoot better than this team.         

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2016, 09:21:54 AM »

Can't remember when any team was worse from 3-point range. Overall, pretty depressing.

Right now this year's team (.293) is only ahead of 96-97 (.288) for the race to be K-State's worst 3 pt shooting team ever.

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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2016, 12:55:33 PM »
Last night's offensive efficiency joined a select group of <0.80 ppp games going back to 2002.

Date   Opponent   Eff
2005   Iowa St.   0.669
2002   Texas Tech   0.675
2006   Nebraska   0.679
2015   Georgia   0.717
2015   Baylor   0.725
2003   Toledo   0.727
2007   California   0.728
2004   UMKC   0.745
2011   Florida   0.748
2007   New Mexico   0.75
2016   West Virginia   0.758
2012   Kansas   0.758
2015   West Virginia   0.764
2004   Oklahoma   0.782
2009   Nebraska   0.785
2004   Oklahoma St.   0.793

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2016, 01:27:33 PM »
the problem isn't with our shooters, it's with our offense.  the shot selection that our offense affords our shooters is garbage.  after passing the ball back and forth at the top of the key with nothing opening up, they're forcing up low percentage shots at or near the expiration of the shot clock.  every game.  and nothing has changed.

i used to think nothing could be uglier than frank's offense but um ya.

yeah year 1 he had Angel bail him out late in the shot clock and year 2 he kinda had Marcus.

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2016, 01:56:08 PM »
ya, Angel is great at breaking down defenses
part of the problem is that a few of these newer guys don't know what they're doing out there, although Claws actually seems to do ok running the motion

claws and sprads, the motion men


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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2016, 02:06:57 PM »
Last night's offensive efficiency joined a select group of <0.80 ppp games going back to 2002.

Date   Opponent   Eff
2005   Iowa St.   0.669
2002   Texas Tech   0.675
2006   Nebraska   0.679
2015   Georgia   0.717
2015   Baylor   0.725
2003   Toledo   0.727
2007   California   0.728
2004   UMKC   0.745
2011   Florida   0.748
2007   New Mexico   0.75
2016   West Virginia   0.758
2012   Kansas   0.758
2015   West Virginia   0.764
2004   Oklahoma   0.782
2009   Nebraska   0.785
2004   Oklahoma St.   0.793

One out of four in the last two years!

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Re: Road Barry-al; WVU ADV
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2016, 07:50:04 AM »
I like oldies music such as Gladys Knight and the Pips.  This year is no Gladys and Pips. NO Perry and the Pips.  No Freed, Ron, and the Pips.   The good old days Beaz, Jacob, Rodney, and non weed Foster were our headliners.  The reason IMO we get sucked into holes is that we have no stud player, just good pips.