Rather have oscar

[Mixed-Nutz]

Tom Crean

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this is a good one. i have no idea what kind of person leonard hamilton is, but his time at fsu feels very brucey. he's been there 14! years and has one sweet 16 and 4 ncaa bids to show for it. has them trapped in an unending competitive mediocrity.

There are lots and lots of mediocre coaches out there.

oscar has 12 postseasons, 10 NCAAs, and 3 Sweet Sixteens in 17 years of being a head coach; there are a lot of P5 coaches out there that haven't come close to that.

He just also has plenty of unlikable traits that hurt him.

He is a above average coach that is boring and not sexy.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Tom Crean

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this is a good one. i have no idea what kind of person leonard hamilton is, but his time at fsu feels very brucey. he's been there 14! years and has one sweet 16 and 4 ncaa bids to show for it. has them trapped in an unending competitive mediocrity.

There are lots and lots of mediocre coaches out there.

oscar has 12 postseasons, 10 NCAAs, and 3 Sweet Sixteens in 17 years of being a head coach; there are a lot of P5 coaches out there that haven't come close to that.

He just also has plenty of unlikable traits that hurt him.

In his last 14 seasons as a head coach he's been to 10 ncaa tournaments, won 5 conference championships and played for a national championship. There are maybe 12 other head coaches with that kind of success. The people on this board are either Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or trolling.

[wetwillie]

He's really good at coaching teams he didn't recruit, like maybe best in the country at it.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

He's really good at coaching teams he didn't recruit, like maybe best in the country at it.

Thanks, dr.j

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Tom Crean

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this is a good one. i have no idea what kind of person leonard hamilton is, but his time at fsu feels very brucey. he's been there 14! years and has one sweet 16 and 4 ncaa bids to show for it. has them trapped in an unending competitive mediocrity.

There are lots and lots of mediocre coaches out there.

oscar has 12 postseasons, 10 NCAAs, and 3 Sweet Sixteens in 17 years of being a head coach; there are a lot of P5 coaches out there that haven't come close to that.

He just also has plenty of unlikable traits that hurt him.

In his last 14 seasons as a head coach he's been to 10 ncaa tournaments, won 5 conference championships and played for a national championship. There are maybe 12 other head coaches with that kind of success. The people on this board are either Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or trolling.

lol fsd as long we're doing selective endpoints: in his last 21 big 12 road games he is 3-18 with wins over tech, the 0-18 tcu team, and ou (which mf singlehandedly won)

[Pete]

Tom Crean

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this is a good one. i have no idea what kind of person leonard hamilton is, but his time at fsu feels very brucey. he's been there 14! years and has one sweet 16 and 4 ncaa bids to show for it. has them trapped in an unending competitive mediocrity.

There are lots and lots of mediocre coaches out there.

oscar has 12 postseasons, 10 NCAAs, and 3 Sweet Sixteens in 17 years of being a head coach; there are a lot of P5 coaches out there that haven't come close to that.

He just also has plenty of unlikable traits that hurt him.

In his last 14 seasons as a head coach he's been to 10 ncaa tournaments, won 5 conference championships and played for a national championship. There are maybe 12 other head coaches with that kind of success. The people on this board are either Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) or trolling.

Do the last 10 years.  Do those stats. 

[Pete]

He's really good at coaching teams he didn't recruit, like maybe best in the country at it.

Thanks, dr.j

FSD, what part of those facts displease you the most?

[Pete]

Also, do you guys believe in "trends?"  I do.

[wetwillie]

I mean LOL he counted two MVC titles...you can't make this stuff up.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Is there some kind of award for making the same I hate oscar posts over and over?

Such a weird amount of butthurt, and unhealthy obsession.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

To pretend that he hasn't been exceedingly successful compared to his peers is a sad shade of delusion

[Trim]

He was nationally mocked on his way out of Illinois, and the only other school that wanted his services was College of Charleston.  It's not just some segment of gE that thinks he has no value as a D-1 coach.

[michigancat]

oscar's peers are the other big 12 coaches. He's clearly worse than Kruger, Self, Tubby, and Huggins (based on things like conference titles and NCAA performance). Drew has been about equal over the last ten years. Trent Johnson has the same number of conference titles and more NCAA tournament wins over the last ten years. ISU's guy is an unknown, and I guess Smart kind of is too, so you're left with one peer that oscar has been "exceedingly successful compared to" over the last ten seasons, and that coach is clearly a better recruiter who has played in more NCAA tourney games since oscar has arrived to KSU.

[kitten_mittons]

Is there some kind of award for making the same I hate oscar posts over and over?

Such a weird amount of butthurt, and unhealthy obsession.

I mean, obviously, we were all cheering our asses off when he made that championship run with illinois and when he was winning those mvc titles.  Why can't we, as a fanbase, be happy with that? Why should we want him to have a good program here? 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

oscar's peers are the other big 12 coaches. He's clearly worse than Kruger, Self, Tubby, and Huggins (based on things like conference titles and NCAA performance). Drew has been about equal over the last ten years. Trent Johnson has the same number of conference titles and more NCAA tournament wins over the last ten years. ISU's guy is an unknown, and I guess Smart kind of is too, so you're left with one peer that oscar has been "exceedingly successful compared to" over the last ten seasons, and that coach is clearly a better recruiter who has played in more NCAA tourney games since oscar has arrived to KSU.

This is pretty decent bullshit, and i appreciate that.   I think his peers are other p5 coaches, but whatevs.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Is there some kind of award for making the same I hate oscar posts over and over?

Such a weird amount of butthurt, and unhealthy obsession.

I mean, obviously, we were all cheering our asses off when he made that championship run with illinois and when he was winning those mvc titles.  Why can't we, as a fanbase, be happy with that? Why should we want him to have a good program here?

Titletown

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AR-T

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[MakeItRain]

You people are short sighted. If you swap him with a terrible coach we would get a different coach even faster.

Yeah, but like, oscar is a huge dork/loser, but I actually hate Travis Ford.

Now that Paul Rhoads got fired, Travis Ford is America's most hateable cfb/cbb coach.

[kitten_mittons]

Rhoads wasn't good enough to be most hateable.

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[bones129]

He was nationally mocked on his way out of Illinois, and the only other school that wanted his services was College of Charleston.  It's not just some segment of gE that thinks he has no value as a D-1 coach.

 

[Pete]

I also dislike that oscar's team gets worse year after year.

[steve dave]

He was nationally mocked on his way out of Illinois, and the only other school that wanted his services was College of Charleston.  It's not just some segment of gE that thinks he has no value as a D-1 coach.

the only people who watch college basketball that think he is an above average D-1 coach are whatever percent of KSU fans that do. unfortunately that's a pretty high percentage which makes me sad.

[star seed 7]

I've never met an oscar fan in person but I guess I'm not surprised fsd thinks he's pretty great

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Remember at #nutPAK when currie told me oscar was better than frank b/c oscar had more career wins?

[Skipper44]

Remember at #nutPAK when currie told me oscar was better than frank b/c oscar had more career wins?

I am sure he has the excel spreadsheet to prove it