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Over or under on 8 conference wins

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Conference wins
« on: January 18, 2016, 10:20:20 AM »
2013: 14
2014: 10
2015:  8
2016:  ?

kenpom is "projecting" 6, what say you?  8 conference wins you take the over or the under?


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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2016, 10:21:21 AM »
Way under. 5 or 6.
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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2016, 11:54:17 AM »
Under, but with the caveat that the schedule-makers certainly didn't do us any favors this year.

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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2016, 12:11:32 PM »
2013: 14
2014: 10
2015:  8
2016:  ?

kenpom is "projecting" 6, what say you?  8 conference wins you take the over or the under?
6 just looks the the right number there

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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2016, 12:20:09 PM »
Under, but with the caveat that the schedule-makers certainly didn't do us any favors this year.

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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2016, 12:46:04 PM »
i trust kenpom on this one, it has paid more attention to kstate bball than any of us have.
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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2016, 12:50:08 PM »
6 wins would be one of the worst Big 12 conference winning percentages in history. This team doesn't seem nearly inept enough to be categorized with those teams. Of course, that doesn't mean they can't pull it off!

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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2016, 01:48:09 PM »
i trust kenpom on this one, it has paid more attention to kstate bball than any of us have.

OSU and TCU are worse than us. We probably can win 3 of those 4.

Tech and Texas are about the same. Likely a split.

We've already lost to ISU and WVU at home and probably won't beat either on the road.

Maybe we can beat Baylor at home and maybe one win between KU/OU at home.

We'll also probably win at least one more road win we don't expect when we have an unusual good shooting night from 3 because that will happen at some point.

I can still see 7 or 8 wins.

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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2016, 02:28:08 PM »
I can still see 7 or 8 wins.

kenpom can see that too.  it just thinks 6 is more likely.  am i imagining things or did kp formerly give probabilities for the range of expected wins?  not just the most likely outcome as it does now.
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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2016, 02:35:13 PM »
I can still see 7 or 8 wins.

kenpom can see that too.  it just thinks 6 is more likely.  am i imagining things or did kp formerly give probabilities for the range of expected wins?  not just the most likely outcome as it does now.
At some point during the season, he would post a chart of number of confy wins vs probability. I don't remember at which point during the season that went live though.


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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2016, 02:58:19 PM »
At some.point we will move from fighting in a hole.of.our own making, and hole up the holes of the other team's and eviscerate them.

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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2016, 03:34:05 PM »


I could have mocatted my math up tho

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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2016, 08:03:05 PM »
Fwiw,

We have 6 losses.
4 to teams ranked in the top 10
1 to #19 isu
1 @ ut by 3 pts

The two home losses to wvu and isu are the most disappointing.  But I didn't think we'd be more than an average p5 team, and I think we're probably a little better than that.  It's a tough year in the big 12 to be a little above average.

I'll reserve judgment until year end.
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Re: Conference wins
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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2016, 09:36:47 PM »
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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2016, 09:41:07 PM »


I could have mocatted my math up tho

what data say 7 wins?
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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2016, 10:21:58 PM »


I could have mocatted my math up tho

what data say 7 wins?
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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2016, 10:25:17 PM »
Oh I see my mistake now, this also includes the weird ole miss game too.  So... six conference wins then...I will correct tomorrow.

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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2016, 10:26:35 PM »
It's 7 bc you take previous year, divide in half, add 3

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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2016, 11:08:05 PM »
fsd is right in that the home losses to wvu and isu are the most damning. in my wildest of wild dreams i cannot fathom a way that this team can win 8 conference games.

we are 1-4 and about to be 1-5. 8 wins means that you think there is a possibility that they can close out the season 7-3. that means that you think we can win one against ku or either of the isu/wvu road games when we already lost to them at home and then win every single other game.

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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2016, 11:29:41 PM »
fsd is right in that the home losses to wvu and isu are the most damning. in my wildest of wild dreams i cannot fathom a way that this team can win 8 conference games.

we are 1-4 and about to be 1-5. 8 wins means that you think there is a possibility that they can close out the season 7-3. that means that you think we can win one against ku or either of the isu/wvu road games when we already lost to them at home and then win every single other game.

I thinking losing @Texas might edge out losing to WVU at home.

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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2016, 11:56:49 PM »
7-5, modaris. 
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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2016, 12:24:32 AM »
fsd is right in that the home losses to wvu and isu are the most damning. in my wildest of wild dreams i cannot fathom a way that this team can win 8 conference games.

we are 1-4 and about to be 1-5. 8 wins means that you think there is a possibility that they can close out the season 7-3. that means that you think we can win one against ku or either of the isu/wvu road games when we already lost to them at home and then win every single other game.

I thinking losing @Texas might edge out losing to WVU at home.

historically speaking, you've always thought a bunch of stupid crap so yeah.

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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2016, 08:36:53 AM »
Oh I see my mistake now, this also includes the weird ole miss game too.  So... six conference wins then...I will correct tomorrow.
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Re: Conference wins
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2016, 09:58:52 AM »
does that 6 include factoring in the team folding up shop after losing 5 straight-
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