Sensible Gun Measures

[michigancat]

i honestly cannot believe you don't already need a license to own a gun. you need a license to motherfucking fish for crying out loud

show me where in the constitution it says you have a right to fish

[star seed 7]

The 2a really is a monumental blunder by the framers

[mocat]

i honestly cannot believe you don't already need a license to own a gun. you need a license to motherfucking fish for crying out loud

show me where in the constitution it says you have a right to fish

1st amendment MF'r

[Rage Against the McKee]

i honestly cannot believe you don't already need a license to own a gun. you need a license to motherfucking fish for crying out loud

show me where in the constitution it says you have a right to fish

I think Kansas recently passed an amendment giving the right to hunt. Seems contradictory that they still sell licenses.

[Phil Titola]

Need permit to gather to protest in many cities. I mean wtf! It's the first amendment!

[Phil Titola]

Have to register to vote. I mean come on!

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'm not sure if those other rights say SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED or not, though.

[steve dave]

eh, "well regulated" leaves open a lot of possibilities. I think we're good requiring licensing, fees, etc.

[steve dave]

also the gun show/private sale loopholes are stupid. obv toss that crap.

[Phil Titola]

Let's say you buy 8+ legal guns in a month...could that person maybe get asked why?  Seems reasonable. If I buy too much cold medicine I get a knock on the door.

[sys]

still not enough people being shot against their will to outweigh the enjoyment gun nuts get from owning guns.  gonna have to kill a lot more people before the math changes.

[hemmy]

I've never shot a gun, but the people who cry about the NRA are hilarious.

[mocat]

still not enough people being shot against their will to outweigh the enjoyment gun nuts get from owning guns.  gonna have to kill a lot more people before the math changes.

vegas may have been an inside job, paid for by Big people against people being shot against their will

[MakeItRain]

I've never shot a gun, but the people who cry about the NRA are hilarious.

I have shot a gun, care to elaborate your point?

[Dugout DickStone]

He really likes the NRA

[sys]

still not enough people being shot against their will to outweigh the enjoyment gun nuts get from owning guns.  gonna have to kill a lot more people before the math changes.

vegas may have been an inside job, paid for by Big people against people being shot against their will

sometimes they try to sneak suicides into the "annual deaths due to gun violence" totals, mocat.

[puniraptor]

there will surely be at least an attempt to put together a ban on bump-fire stocks. Is this a sensible gun measure? will anyone go to bat for them?

probably can pass a ban for these reasons:
-nobody knows these exist and will be freaked out when they find out they do.
-cheap low volume product, very little financial impact on the gun industry and their lobby.
-product that effectively bypasses the non-controversial restrictions on full auto weapons.
-won't actually make any difference, but will still be celebrated as action taken in response to this attack.

[Rage Against the McKee]

eff 'em. Ban 'em.

[catastrophe]

It seems like such a layup, but I still give it a 5% chance of happening.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Guys, guns are fantastically simple machines that have been around for centuries. No amount of legislation is going to make them vanish or uninvent them. Somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the households in this country have a gun inside. About any idiot with free time can craft one.

You can pass the most draconian gun laws in the world, and that's not going to make guns disappear, uninvent them, or stop maniacs from doing maniacal things. In fact, the places with the strictest gun laws have the highest murder rates.

The guns this guy used were already illegal, just like murder is already illegal. What do want to do, make them super-illegal?

Half of you nitwits lose your civil rights 4th amendment crap over police detaining people for 5 minutes to check for warrants and citizenship, and start uncontrollably blurting "racism" and "profiling". Yet you want crap on the 2nd amendment and have people to pay what is essentially a poll tax and pass a rigorous background check (administered by who?) to buy a gun that tens of millions of people already own. We have guns laws, lots of them, the ignorance exhibited on that topic is insane.

If you to solve this problem you need to start thinking outside of the box. Because legislation has proven it won't stop criminals from doing criminal things.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I guess forced castration of white men per Lena Dunham.

Actress Lena Dunham took to social media Monday to respond to Sunday’s mass shooting in Las Vegas, Nevada, in which 59 people lost their lives, writing on Twitter that there was “no way not to politicize” the tragic event.
“No way not to politicize this tragedy,” the showrunner and star of HBO’s Girls wrote in a tweet. “It’s about gender & race as well as access to guns. Considering it random is comforting & dangerous.”

HRC employee, rough ridin' idiot

[catastrophe]

One idea that I don't think gets enough play is requiring people to purchase gun insurance. Money goes into victims' fund for those affected by gun violence/mass shootings.

[Phil Titola]

Guys, guns are fantastically simple machines that have been around for centuries. No amount of legislation is going to make them vanish or uninvent them. Somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the households in this country have a gun inside. About any idiot with free time can craft one.

You can pass the most draconian gun laws in the world, and that's not going to make guns disappear, uninvent them, or stop maniacs from doing maniacal things. In fact, the places with the strictest gun laws have the highest murder rates.

The guns this guy used were already illegal, just like murder is already illegal. What do want to do, make them super-illegal?

Half of you nitwits lose your civil rights 4th amendment crap over police detaining people for 5 minutes to check for warrants and citizenship, and start uncontrollably blurting "racism" and "profiling". Yet you want crap on the 2nd amendment and have people to pay what is essentially a poll tax and pass a rigorous background check (administered by who?) to buy a gun that tens of millions of people already own. We have guns laws, lots of them, the ignorance exhibited on that topic is insane.

If you to solve this problem you need to start thinking outside of the box. Because legislation has proven it won't stop criminals from doing criminal things.

No sensible measure includes banning all guns or taking away your guns. It's also not sensible to say nothing can be done.

[Katpappy]

Why not ration bullets.  Must write a hundred word essay on why you need them and number needed.  This way, guys like that Pat fella would need to lie to get them.  That would force mandatory jail time for being untruthful and he wouldn't get the amount of ammo he needs to complete his suicide with friends mission.

PROBLEM SOLVED.  SAFETY FIRST... FREEDOM LATER GATER.

[MakeItRain]

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