Author Topic: Paris terror thread (Read 10155 times)

CNS · « **Reply #75 on:** November 14, 2015, 08:54:35 AM »

CNN actually taking the time to ask Mike Huckabee what we should be doing. Huck wants to flood everywhere w troops and get our govt built up as big as possible in the guise of Big Security.

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CNS · « **Reply #76 on:** November 14, 2015, 08:56:28 AM »

Huck is explaining to this CNN dumbass how all refugees are terrorists and would hate Minnesota anyway.

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puniraptor · « **Reply #77 on:** November 14, 2015, 09:56:48 AM »

These people are here, they just don't terror attack us because America is awesome and they become Americans instead.

CNS · « **Reply #78 on:** November 14, 2015, 10:44:19 AM »

I don't know. Huck was confident that you can't take "These ppl out of the desert and put them in Minnesota in the winter".

michigancat · « **Reply #79 on:** November 14, 2015, 10:48:18 AM »

I hate to get into an argument with Huck, but doesn't Minneapolis have the largest Somali concentration in the country?

CNS · « **Reply #80 on:** November 14, 2015, 11:13:39 AM »

Pretty standard proglib argument there, mich. Nice try. Huck isn't fooled.

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ednksu · « **Reply #81 on:** November 14, 2015, 12:16:31 PM »

A Greek official is saying there was a Syrian passport found near one of the terrorists that was registered through a Greek island at the beginning of October. Finding citation, I was in the car listening to NPR. One other terrorist is a Frenchmen.

steve dave · « **Reply #82 on:** November 14, 2015, 02:15:35 PM »

did anyone else know that the capital of Lebanon was attacked by isis the day before Paris was attacked?

wetwillie · « **Reply #83 on:** November 14, 2015, 02:17:01 PM »

Do you even #prayforlebanon bro?

sys · « **Reply #84 on:** November 14, 2015, 02:55:31 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on November 14, 2015, 02:15:35 PM

did anyone else know that the capital of Lebanon was attacked by isis the day before Paris was attacked?

yes. thanks, bbc.

nicname · « **Reply #85 on:** November 14, 2015, 03:34:51 PM »

Quote from: CNS on November 14, 2015, 07:20:42 AM

This would be a great time for us to withdraw from the middle east. Russia is all stirred up with isis already and with this France attack, the rest of Europe is going to be all in, given that this attack was right in the middle of Europe and could have easily taken place in any EU country. Let Europe and Russia play this out. We pledge support through supplies and strategy. Could be a win for us in getting ourself out, and for the economy.

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I agree with this. Part of me kind of wants to see a massive offensive blow ISIS into smithereens before we do.

8manpick · « **Reply #86 on:** November 14, 2015, 06:34:48 PM »

So we killed one of the ISIS leaders in Libya yesterday / today sometime

8manpick · « **Reply #87 on:** November 14, 2015, 06:34:56 PM »

In Libya

ednksu · « **Reply #88 on:** November 14, 2015, 06:51:05 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on November 14, 2015, 02:15:35 PM

did anyone else know that the capital of Lebanon was attacked by isis the day before Paris was attacked?

yes, and google Adel Termos and read about a hero.

Benja · « **Reply #89 on:** November 14, 2015, 06:56:23 PM »

I don't have the highest MEIQ, but if we just let Iraq decide their territorial disputes, like half of ISIS will quit after that's over. A big portion of ISIS is just there to fight for a Sunni state.

wetwillie · « **Reply #90 on:** November 14, 2015, 07:02:38 PM »

Does the term power vacuum mean anything to you?

ednksu · « **Reply #91 on:** November 16, 2015, 01:36:20 AM »

Quote from: Benja on November 14, 2015, 06:56:23 PM

I don't have the highest MEIQ, but if we just let Iraq decide their territorial disputes, like half of ISIS will quit after that's over. A big portion of ISIS is just there to fight for a Sunni state.

Not really at this point. The Sunni tribes started to push back against Daesh when Maliki was ousted and when Daesh went Sharia to the Nth degree on everyone. "Iraq" as a state doesn't have the ability to control/decide any aspect of territory at this point. They've worked with various tribes to offer more homerule and that has helped. One big thing is that Turkey would flip their crap if Iraq let a sovereign Kurd state develope in the north. It's too blended to say Kurds here, Sunnis here, Shia here. They need to work towards a better solution together.

ednksu · « **Reply #92 on:** November 16, 2015, 03:59:46 AM »

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-terror-attacks/paris-attacks-150-raids-france-goes-war-terrorism-n463971
5 arrested in Lyon, 1 rocket launcher

Earlier Bavarian police arrested a guy (51) with weapons and 2.5lbs of explosives in a VW Golf. Supposedly the attackers drove a car tagged out of Belgium. Additionally I heard there were more arrests in Belgium (I think).

Benja · « **Reply #93 on:** November 16, 2015, 10:05:09 AM »

Quote from: ednksu on November 16, 2015, 01:36:20 AM

Quote from: Benja on November 14, 2015, 06:56:23 PM
I don't have the highest MEIQ, but if we just let Iraq decide their territorial disputes, like half of ISIS will quit after that's over. A big portion of ISIS is just there to fight for a Sunni state.
Not really at this point. The Sunni tribes started to push back against Daesh when Maliki was ousted and when Daesh went Sharia to the Nth degree on everyone. "Iraq" as a state doesn't have the ability to control/decide any aspect of territory at this point. They've worked with various tribes to offer more homerule and that has helped. One big thing is that Turkey would flip their crap if Iraq let a sovereign Kurd state develope in the north. It's too blended to say Kurds here, Sunnis here, Shia here. They need to work towards a better solution together.

So one big giant Arabic state is basically the only long term solution? (Something I don't think anyone in the military or most of U.S. politics wants)

ednksu · « **Reply #94 on:** November 16, 2015, 01:44:04 PM »

Quote from: Benja on November 16, 2015, 10:05:09 AM

Quote from: ednksu on November 16, 2015, 01:36:20 AM
Quote from: Benja on November 14, 2015, 06:56:23 PM
I don't have the highest MEIQ, but if we just let Iraq decide their territorial disputes, like half of ISIS will quit after that's over. A big portion of ISIS is just there to fight for a Sunni state.
Not really at this point. The Sunni tribes started to push back against Daesh when Maliki was ousted and when Daesh went Sharia to the Nth degree on everyone. "Iraq" as a state doesn't have the ability to control/decide any aspect of territory at this point. They've worked with various tribes to offer more homerule and that has helped. One big thing is that Turkey would flip their crap if Iraq let a sovereign Kurd state develope in the north. It's too blended to say Kurds here, Sunnis here, Shia here. They need to work towards a better solution together.

So one big giant Arabic state is basically the only long term solution? (Something I don't think anyone in the military or most of U.S. politics wants)

Not advocating that at all. I think we need to recognize that the US has had great success with many of the Sunni tribes that turned away from the Iraqi government under Maliki and supported or allowed Daesh to grow in strength. If the US can get them back, like it seems now, to not supporting Daesh it's a good thing. The region is too complex to have the West draw borders again. Organic solutions need to occur. If they remain as the same state, they need to reformulate ideas on home rule like Iraq has done with Kurdish regions. The US should moderate, not enforce, these kinds of agreements.

ednksu · « **Reply #95 on:** November 16, 2015, 03:26:34 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/live/paris-attacks-live-updates/turkey-warned-french-twice-about-attacker-official-says/

Wasn't there a similar claim about one of the Charlie Hebdo attackers?

ednksu · « **Reply #96 on:** November 16, 2015, 03:30:00 PM »

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151116/1030223381/paris-attackers-alleged-bitcoin-wallet.html
One wallet, believed to be in possession of IS affiliates, had received $23 million in Bitcoin in September.
GhostSec, a hacktivist off-shoot of Anonymous, has claimed to have followed a chain of transactions and found a Bitcoin wallet containing $3 million which they say is linked to the self-proclaimed Islamic State terror group and Friday’s Paris attacks.

Emo EMAW · « **Reply #97 on:** November 16, 2015, 04:05:12 PM »

Kinda begs the question, what the hell did France do to deserve this kind of attack? Weren't they in opposition of our invasion of Iraq in 2003?

ednksu · « **Reply #98 on:** November 16, 2015, 04:07:57 PM »

Quote from: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2015, 04:05:12 PM

Kinda begs the question, what the hell did France do to deserve this kind of attack? Weren't they in opposition of our invasion of Iraq in 2003?

Daesh says their involvement with strikes in Syria. I also put their lingering issues with a disenfranchised muslim population and the ease of travel in EU countries for Euro citizens (not like the Charlie Hebdo attacks many of the attackers were native or from countries near france).

DQ12 · « **Reply #99 on:** November 16, 2015, 04:09:48 PM »

Quote from: ednksu on November 16, 2015, 04:07:57 PM

Quote from: Emo EMAW on November 16, 2015, 04:05:12 PM
Kinda begs the question, what the hell did France do to deserve this kind of attack? Weren't they in opposition of our invasion of Iraq in 2003?
Daesh says their involvement with strikes in Syria. I also put their lingering issues with a disenfranchised muslim population and the ease of travel in EU countries for Euro citizens (not like the Charlie Hebdo attacks many of the attackers were native or from countries near france).

Noob question: how are muslims disenfranchised in France?