It this Bill's last season?

[bones129]

I'm tired of all the HCIW speculation, the question of whether Sean succeeds to the throne, and if Brett or Bob succeed Bill.

What I want to know is this: regardless of who Bill's successor may be, who realistically will step into this job? Who? And who will be acceptable to ADJC?

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[WildcatNation]

Someone, PLEASE give me any fathomable reason why Bob Stoops would come back here, even if fired.

[SkinnyBenny]

Someone, PLEASE give me any fathomable reason why Bob Stoops would come back here, even if fired.

He is cold-hearted and would love to get revenge on OU for firing him

[Skipper44]

Someone, PLEASE give me any fathomable reason why Bob Stoops would come back here, even if fired.

Kstate football is pro-nepotism #family

[meow meow]

Bill's too close to 200 to leave now. 

[sunny_cat]

Someone, PLEASE give me any fathomable reason why Bob Stoops would come back here, even if fired.

[Gooch]

If he was asked to pick I bet Bob would say Spurrier was more of a mentor than Bill

[catastrophe]

I think these are all solid reasons for Bob to come back, but my guess is he's a bit too prideful to want to follow Snyder who is practically more legend than reality at this point.

[Panjandrum]

Bill's too close to 200 to leave now.

Man, I keep going back and forth on this.  I definitely think that is going to factor into this.

I look at it like a tripod.  Bill's desire to stay will hinge on three things:

1) How much he wants to stay, or what goal he has for himself (i.e. 200 wins)
2) How much his coaches want to stay, especially the old ones (Del and Hayes are both over 65)
3) How much his continued employment will either hurt or help Sean

I think if any of these things start to really get out of whack with the others, he'll step down.  I don't think Bill wants to face another significant rebuilding job, and I don't think he's going to want to hire anyone else.  I think I read somewhere that we are one of a handful of programs that hasn't had a new coach in three years or so.  I think consistency and predictability is everything to him right now, much like it is for most people his age, whether they want to admit it or not.

If Hayes and Miller elected to leave tomorrow, I think he'd promote from within, but I don't think he wants the dynamic shifted at all.  He may throw his hands up and say that he'd rather go watch little league baseball games and drink coffee with Colbert.

[MIZMAW]

I have a hard time believing that Bill cares even a tiny bit about reaching 200 wins.  That just doesn't seem like his style.

[Skipper44]

Bill's too close to 200 to leave now.

Man, I keep going back and forth on this.  I definitely think that is going to factor into this.

I look at it like a tripod.  Bill's desire to stay will hinge on three things:

1) How much he wants to stay, or what goal he has for himself (i.e. 200 wins)
2) How much his coaches want to stay, especially the old ones (Del and Hayes are both over 65)
3) How much his continued employment will either hurt or help Sean

How would his continued employment ever hurt Sean?

[Shooter Jones]

Gridiron Now believes so.

http://gridironnow.com/chatter-k-state-coach-bill-snyder-to-retire-at-end-of-season/

[michigancat]

[catastrophe]

Gridiron Now believes so.

http://gridironnow.com/chatter-k-state-coach-bill-snyder-to-retire-at-end-of-season/

Yes, but the question is: how credible is Gridiron Now? http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=36318

[Shooter Jones]

WOOF!

I did real good internets in this thread.

[TownieCat]

Someone, PLEASE give me any fathomable reason why Bob Stoops would come back here, even if fired.

He's undefeated as a head coach in Manhattan.

[Panjandrum]

Bill's too close to 200 to leave now.

Man, I keep going back and forth on this.  I definitely think that is going to factor into this.

I look at it like a tripod.  Bill's desire to stay will hinge on three things:

1) How much he wants to stay, or what goal he has for himself (i.e. 200 wins)
2) How much his coaches want to stay, especially the old ones (Del and Hayes are both over 65)
3) How much his continued employment will either hurt or help Sean

How would his continued employment ever hurt Sean?

The narrative was that if Bill went out on top, he could say, "It was all Sean, so you better hire him."

If we're starting to go south, and we piddle around 5-7 wins this year and next, if he says, "It was all Sean, so you better hire him," then no one is going to want to pull that trigger.

If Bill came out at the end of this year and said that we were devastated by injury and they feel confident we'll turn it around next year, and Sean was responsible for the 11, 12, 8, and 9 win seasons, then he may feel like it's now or never if that's the card he wants to pull. 

[catastrophe]

Serious question: why do people believe Bill wants Sean to coach THAT bad? My impression was that Bill said Sean would be a great coach, but he would prefer Sean not follow in his footsteps because he wants him to have a life.

[michigancat]

Serious question: why do people believe Bill wants Sean to coach THAT bad? My impression was that Bill said Sean would be a great coach, but he would prefer Sean not follow in his footsteps because he wants him to have a life.

Because Sean is the only person he ever says anything nice about.(other than opposing players he sends handwritten notes to)

[Skipper44]

Serious question: why do people believe Bill wants Sean to coach THAT bad? My impression was that Bill said Sean would be a great coach, but he would prefer Sean not follow in his footsteps because he wants him to have a life.

because he said this

"I have a strong belief, and my preference is Sean," Snyder said. "He knows more about our football program than anyone. He runs our program. I have great confidence in him.

here
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13303350/bill-snyder-kansas-state-once-retired-wants-son-sean-take-over

 

[Panjandrum]

Serious question: why do people believe Bill wants Sean to coach THAT bad? My impression was that Bill said Sean would be a great coach, but he would prefer Sean not follow in his footsteps because he wants him to have a life.

because he said this

"I have a strong belief, and my preference is Sean," Snyder said. "He knows more about our football program than anyone. He runs our program. I have great confidence in him.

here
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13303350/bill-snyder-kansas-state-once-retired-wants-son-sean-take-over

 

I said in another thread that I believe this is a "Dad wants to pass the family business to his son, and the son doesn't necessarily want it but will do his duty," sort of situation.

[pissclams]

you seem to have at least a modicum of intelligence which makes mewonder what would lead you to that conclusion

[kslim]

I have a hard time believing that Bill cares even a tiny bit about reaching 200 wins.  That just doesn't seem like his style.

he is an egotistical maniac, everyone knows that

[Panjandrum]

you seem to have at least a modicum of intelligence which makes mewonder what would lead you to that conclusion

Assuming that you're speaking to me, Bill has been very open about his desire for Sean to take over, but I've been told that Sean isn't that interested in the gig. 

If Sean does want it, and what I've heard is incorrect, fine.  Then it's as simple as Bill trying to get him a job he wants.  But if it's not what he wants, why does Bill keep openly talking about it?  And why doesn't Sean shut him down?