Author Topic: Joe 2016 master thread (Read 4050 times)

star seed 7 · « **on:** October 19, 2015, 01:26:45 PM »

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/10/19/biden-reportedly-entering-presidential-race.html

renocat · « **Reply #1 on:** October 19, 2015, 01:31:59 PM »

I am getting. This is like being constipated with a a football sized turd inside of you. It's a thrill when it passes, but you won't bronze it and put it on your mantel.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2015, 01:40:17 PM »

Looks like the democrat party has officially flushed MG.

We need one of these with an MG head on it

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 19, 2015, 01:46:34 PM »

@thebigtrain

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #4 on:** October 19, 2015, 01:47:26 PM »

Well, it's about time.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #5 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:04:16 PM »

or maybe

because the establishment vote will get split

he'd do a much better job in a general than the primary though

puniraptor · « **Reply #6 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:38:44 PM »

putin better get ready for some unwanted neck rubs

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:56:12 PM »

Oh great, another Dem who was a huge proponent of the Iraq war, a major Dem Iraq War cheerleader.

steve dave · « **Reply #8 on:** October 19, 2015, 03:28:22 PM »

steve dave · « **Reply #9 on:** October 19, 2015, 03:28:51 PM »

steve dave · « **Reply #10 on:** October 19, 2015, 03:29:13 PM »

steve dave · « **Reply #11 on:** October 19, 2015, 03:30:47 PM »

Joe is going to absolutely wreck the pud candidates of both sides of this thing. Buy stock in body bag companies.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #12 on:** October 19, 2015, 03:32:30 PM »

So now that Joe is maybe running for president, I think it's time to dust off this wisdom from his 2012 VP debate with Paul Ryan... http://www.npr.org/2012/10/11/162754053/transcript-biden-ryan-vice-presidential-debate

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"On Iraq, the president said he would end the war. Governor Romney said that was a tragic mistake; we should have left — that he ended it — Governor Romney said that was a tragic mistake; we should have left 30,000 troops there."

Once again, Romney was right. You were wrong Joe, oh so wrong.

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"With regard to Afghanistan, [Obama] said he will end the war in 2014. Governor Romney said we should not set a date, number one, and number two, with regard to 2014, it depends.
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[W]e've agreed on a gradual drawdown so we're out of there by the year — in the year 2014.

My friend and the governor say it's based on conditions, which means it depends. It does not depend for us. It is the responsibility of the Afghans to take care of their own security. We have trained over 315,000, mostly without incident. There have been more than two dozen cases of green on blue where Americans have been killed.

If we do — if the — if the measures the military has taken do not take hold, we will not go on joint patrols, we will not train in the field. We'll only train in the — in the Army bases that exist there.

But we are leaving. We are leaving in 2014, period."

Quick check - did we leave Afghanistan in 2014, period?

CNS · « **Reply #13 on:** October 19, 2015, 03:40:25 PM »

If your argument is that Romney should run, I would be behind that.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #14 on:** October 19, 2015, 04:04:50 PM »

Dems: Always willing to toss aside principals to keep their own in office

Sad

gatoveintisiete · « **Reply #15 on:** October 19, 2015, 04:07:54 PM »

Look for Obama to put the 'cuffs on Hillary soon, if he doesn't you may actually start to feel theBern.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 19, 2015, 04:34:44 PM »

Strong smell of neocon fear itt

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #17 on:** October 19, 2015, 05:06:26 PM »

Joe "NeoCon" Biden

The one issue that has generated some attention is that Biden authored the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which not only expanded the number of crimes subject to the federal death penalty, but also played a pivotal role in the explosion of incarcerations and the disproportionate criminal prosecution in poor black communities. Joe’s always been a tough-on-crime sort of guy, and as The New York Times pointed out recently

Despite reservations, Mr. Biden, who has served as the Obama administration’s unofficial liaison to the law enforcement community, has not only stood by the 1994 legislation, but has also frequently taken credit for it. As recently as this spring, in an essay on community policing for a book of bipartisan reform proposals put together by the Brennan Center for Justice, Mr. Biden referred to the legislation as the “1994 Biden Crime Bill.”
In addition to the “1994 Biden Crime Bill,” the vice president was one of the biggest proponents of the War on Drugs, taking a leading role in creating federal mandatory minimum laws that have put scores of non-violent criminals in prison. The kind of policies President Obama, Elizabeth Warren, every progressive, and many others have claimed are destructive. Biden also helped create the Drug Czar, a government official that oversees all anti-drug operations. As Biden explained to Time back in 2008, “I am not only the guy who did the crime bill and the drug czar, but I’m also the guy who spent years when I was chairman of the Judiciary Committee and chairman trying to change drug policy relative to cocaine, for example, crack and chowder.”

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On the social front, Biden voted for the bigoted, anti-equality Defense of Marriage Act that has since been found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Biden voted in favor the “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” policy which pushed members of the American gay community who wanted to fight for their nation deeper into the closet. Surely he will be asked to defend these votes by explaining how he evolved to his current position.

Biden has not only come out against federal funding for abortions, but also voted in favor of a 1999 bill to ban most partial-birth abortions, and in favor of the 2003 Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act. Surely if he supported a bill that protected post-viable babies, he must also support Republican efforts to protect viable babies and believe it’s wrong to harvest a baby’s body parts after she’s been born. I look forward to the Catholic Biden’s clarification.

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On issues of war and peace, Biden didn’t simply vote for the Iraq War, he was a vocal proponent of going to war. In 2002, as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Biden said that Saddam Hussein was “a long term threat and a short term threat to our national security.” Biden went on to say that there was “no choice but to eliminate the threat.” In October of 2002, he gave a speech on the floor of the U.S. Senate advocating for going to war. How Americans–liberals especially–can vote for someone who, when confronted with most important issue of his age, voted the wrong way? “A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics,” as Obama put it.

Before joining the administration, Biden was not only for increasing federal domestic spying programs, but he used to boast that the Patriot Act was essentially a copy of his own the anti-terrorist legislation from 1995. Either this is not true, or Democrats would be supporting the author of the Patriot Act. And Biden was a proponent of expanding the power of FBI wiretaps long before 9/11.

Cue meltdown over source . . . http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/25/will-joe-biden-have-to-answer-for-his-heresy-against-liberals/

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #18 on:** October 19, 2015, 05:11:37 PM »

Joe Biden: Out neo-conning the neo cons for decades.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/us/politics/joe-bidens-role-in-90s-crime-law-could-haunt-any-presidential-bid.html?_r=1

Joe's Pot Grade: D

https://www.mpp.org/2016-presidential-candidates/

Joe Biden: A true self preserving politician. An agent for change in Washington!

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/06/1671581/21-senators-who-voted-for-doma-in-1996-but-later-opposed-it/

puniraptor · « **Reply #19 on:** October 19, 2015, 05:29:47 PM »

what grade does he get in Weird Uncling, dax?

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #20 on:** October 19, 2015, 05:34:21 PM »

Quote from: puniraptor on October 19, 2015, 05:29:47 PM

what grade does he get in Weird Uncling, dax?

star seed 7 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 19, 2015, 05:38:11 PM »

Sounds like a general election winning moderate to me

Tobias · « **Reply #22 on:** October 19, 2015, 05:39:48 PM »

should be able to reach across the table and work with libtards (if he wants)

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #23 on:** October 19, 2015, 05:45:50 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on October 19, 2015, 04:34:44 PM

Strong smell of neocon fear itt

I'm not a neocon so I'm not sure if directed at me, but I'd love Biden to get in. Yes, he's a stronger candidate than Hillary in the general, but he'll also torpedo Hillary's chances for the nomination. Finally a palatable alternative for establishment libs.

gatoveintisiete · « **Reply #24 on:** October 19, 2015, 06:23:45 PM »

Joe v. Donald