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[MakeItRain]

The main problem is Winston Dimel carrying the football. These guys underutilized Gronk last year and now Dimel is getting more carries (even though he is worse in every way).

Dimel has 16 carries with a 2.9 average. Not good. His average is .3 below Charles Jones.

Dimel has the lowest average on the team.

Bazooka Joe has a 3.7 average.

I am hoping that the coaching staff is just playing around and we will stop doing this during conference play.

I need more Gronk!!!!!   2 carries  8.0 per carry
I also need lots more Silmon!!!  12 carries 7.6 per carry

I already posted this itt bro, except I didn't have to type it out.

[The Big Train]

come on MIR, don't suppress the zeal!

[purplehaze]

Dimel has lots of goaline carries, i think his average will rise. Like: Will Davis

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[steve dave]

Yeah, how about Will Davis? There's someone who I fully expected to suck huge ass but was seemingly fine.

[catzacker]

Yeah, how about Will Davis? There's someone who I fully expected to suck huge ass but was seemingly fine.

we'll see on him. not sold on his not suckiness just yet. he did have a nice pass deflection at the goal line when our entire secondary forgot that in football you're allowed a forward pass.

[Rage Against the McKee]

The main problem is Winston Dimel carrying the football. These guys underutilized Gronk last year and now Dimel is getting more carries (even though he is worse in every way).

Dimel has 16 carries with a 2.9 average. Not good. His average is .3 below Charles Jones.

Dimel has the lowest average on the team.

Bazooka Joe has a 3.7 average.

I am hoping that the coaching staff is just playing around and we will stop doing this during conference play.

I need more Gronk!!!!!   2 carries  8.0 per carry
I also need lots more Silmon!!!  12 carries 7.6 per carry

All of Winston's carries are at the goal line, so his ypc is going to be pretty low.

[_33]

The fact that Dimel has 16 carries and Gronk has 2 is a travesty.

[manpow5]

The fact that Dimel has 16 carries and Gronk has 2 is a travesty.

Nothing like benching the one guy who continuously gets us national media attention.

[Trim]

The fact that Dimel has 16 carries and Gronk has 2 is a travesty.

Nothing like benching the one guy who continuously gets us national media attention.

Retaining popular people isn't a kstatesports objective.

[_33]

I'm furious about it.  A normal coach/father wouldn't give their son any carries until maybe his senior year to make sure people didn't think he was favoring him.

[Trim]

I'm furious about it.  A normal person wouldn't give their son any carries until maybe his senior year to make sure people didn't think he was favoring him.

[_33]

I coached my 6 year old daughters t-ball team this summer and she rode the bench the entire year, because I'm actually a good coach/father.

[joda]

The main problem is Winston Dimel carrying the football. These guys underutilized Gronk last year and now Dimel is getting more carries (even though he is worse in every way).

Dimel has 16 carries with a 2.9 average. Not good. His average is .3 below Charles Jones.

Dimel has the lowest average on the team.

Bazooka Joe has a 3.7 average.

I am hoping that the coaching staff is just playing around and we will stop doing this during conference play.

I need more Gronk!!!!!   2 carries  8.0 per carry
I also need lots more Silmon!!!  12 carries 7.6 per carry

All of Winston's carries are at the goal line, so his ypc is going to be pretty low.

Except they're not. He got several carries Saturday in 5+ yards to go situations. Those are the ones most of us want him not to get because he is not a good option for those situations. He's good, maybe great as a short yardage back/lead blocker, but bad at longer distances.

[Yard Dog]

The main problem is Winston Dimel carrying the football. These guys underutilized Gronk last year and now Dimel is getting more carries (even though he is worse in every way).

Dimel has 16 carries with a 2.9 average. Not good. His average is .3 below Charles Jones.

Dimel has the lowest average on the team.

Bazooka Joe has a 3.7 average.

I am hoping that the coaching staff is just playing around and we will stop doing this during conference play.

I need more Gronk!!!!!   2 carries  8.0 per carry
I also need lots more Silmon!!!  12 carries 7.6 per carry

All of Winston's carries are at the goal line, so his ypc is going to be pretty low.

Except they're not. He got several carries Saturday in 5+ yards to go situations. Those are the ones most of us want him not to get because he is not a good option for those situations. He's good, maybe great as a short yardage back/lead blocker, but bad at longer distances.

Agreed. That trip over the lineman's legs was extremely .

[kso_FAN]

Dimel's use is pretty simple.

In the field, he's a blocker and a pass route threat; his primary role as a runner is as a redzone back.

Of his 16 carries, 14 have come inside the redzone. The other 2 where inside the opponent's 30. 10 have come in goal to goal situations. The logic seems to be that the coaching staff trusts him as a tough runner who will stay downhill and get positive yards. This seems to be true as he only has 1 negative yardage carry in these situations. I don't believe that they think Gronk has this skill set as he has very few carries in any situation. My take is that Gronk is faster and a better athlete, but Dimel is a little more compact and a better downhill runner and blocker.

[_33]

I'm not going against you _FAN because that's obviously what the staff thinks, but to suggest that Gronk, given Dimel's 16 carries, wouldn't have avg'd 2.9 yards a carry and as many touchdowns is just silly.

[kso_FAN]

I'm not going against you _FAN because that's obviously what the staff thinks, but to suggest that Gronk, given Dimel's 16 carries, wouldn't have avg'd 2.9 yards a carry and as many touchdowns is just silly.

I don't necessarily disagree. My assumption comes from their usage and some things I've heard. Winston already has twice as many carries in his career as Gronk.

[_33]

There's no denying Dimel's skill set.  He's definitely better at being the offensive coordinators son than everyone else.

I don't dislike Winston Dimel it just rubs me the wrong way is all.

[Belvis Noland]

I never heard anybody clamoring for more Gronk carries until Dana and Julie Dimel Family Fullback entered the picture. 

seems to me this argument has less to do with Gronk's running ability and more to do with disliking Dana Dimel. 

[Paul Moscow]

I never heard anybody clamoring for more Gronk carries until Dana and Julie Dimel Family Fullback entered the picture. 

seems to me this argument has less to do with Gronk's running ability and more to do with disliking Dana Dimel.

To me its curious that a coaching staff that almost always chooses to play the incumbent starter ahead of the any newcomer (no matter how talented the newcomer) until either a) the incumbent plays himself out of the role or b) new comer proves himself on ST or with excellent, sustained play in mop-up duty now finds itself with a position player who did neither before earning playing time.

I'm not saying Dimel isn't good but it seems as though he skipped through the first few steps and was virtually anointed into being an integral part of our offense. So yeah, dad and stuff.

[catastrophe]

Mods, please add "(another Winston Dimel thread)" to the title for accuracy. Thanks.

[pissclams]

like: that this board questions literally every single thing that this staff does and generally assumes that the worst decision was made regardless of any insidery info pointing either way

[_33]

like: that this board questions literally every single thing that this staff does and generally assumes that the worst decision was made regardless of any insidery info pointing either way

I don't like it about myself.  But I am pretty set in my ways.

[Katpappy]

Those bombs! 'Zooka J throws such a pretty long bomb.

SD, your name for BJ is spreading like wildfire across the sports world. 

[Katpappy]

fan chingon and i were wondering about the following in chat:

waters threw moonshot bombs and huebner throws lazer beam bombs.  which is preferable?  both are aesthetically pleasing.

I think it depends if you have a Tyler Lockett. I think moon shots would be not so good with these WRs.

This is true per eye test last year.  None of the present WR's could catch a Waters pass, but do seem to be able to catch a few BJ laser beams.