Idiot Dana Dimel master thread

[MixBerryCrunch]

No one is complaining about Dimel.  If anything we are complaining about the way he is being used by Dana while Silmon and Gronk  are pretty much relegated to second tier status.

[nicname]

The things our coaching staff seems to value as they become increasingly risk averse just aren't that great for generating excitement.

[joda]

Nobody is shitting on Winston Dimel, they're shitting on Dana Dimel and his mismanagement of talent.

[Pete]

Dana isn't doing anything his boss doesn't do himself and fully condone.

[Trim]

I wonder what other things Dana Dimel has horrible taste in.

[MakeItRain]

I mean, he's not awful guys. He's pretty decent for a FR.

Who the hell said he was awful? You realize he's competing with a 1st team all conference and two other redshirt freshmen right?

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/kansas-state/2015.html#all_rushing_and_receiving

Everyone agrees that Charles Jones should get less carries, do you see those numbers?

"preseason 1st team all conference". No one values a FB in this conference, besides K-State, so it's kind of a moot point. I've never understood the "this coaching staff has an agenda on who they play" crowd. I seriously think they have a better observation than the "I sit at my desk daily, but I love rivals stars and celebrity name" crowd.

That's a lot of words when you simply could have said "you think you know more than LHCBS?" If you don't think there are agendas at play please explain Charles Jones to me.

Dana isn't doing anything his boss doesn't do himself and fully condone.

100% agree, I don't think they are doing this with any malace or intent. Dana is playing his son and Bill has watched the kid grow up, I am not sure if they are capable of evaluating this with clear eyes.

If Winston broke the single season touchdown record and went on to break the K-State career touchdown record and in 6 years ended up in the Ring of Honor I'll be immensely happy for him, I just don't want all of this to come at the expense of sensible play calling and harmony within the team. I'm guessing  this started to take form in the spring and it's why Warmack essentially bounced and came back.

[DQ12]

i like to think when we get the ball near the goal line dana's like "ok 1st down, hmm...ok i guess lets give the ball to that young fullback we got...what's his name...uhh.." and bill's like "winston?"  and dana's like "winston? is that his name?  anyhow that kid knows how to run!  ok let's give it to 'winston' on two on two"

[MakeItRain]

i like to think when we get the ball near the goal line dana's like "ok 1st down, hmm...ok i guess lets give the ball to that young fullback we got...what's his name...uhh.." and bill's like "winston?"  and dana's like "winston? is that his name?  anyhow that kid knows how to run!  ok let's give it to 'winston' on two on two"

After Winston's pop pass it took them long enough to get the play in where they very well may have had this conversation.

[FranklyFrankYou]

I think Jones gets the start and bulk of carries(for now) because he has more experience/snaps within the offense. That being said, Snyder has been quoted that he needed to step it up or he would see his carries diminish as Silmon/Warmack proved themselves... Granted he didn't say that verbatim but he did allude to it which is rare for him

[EMAWzified]

I think Jones is giving his all and that's the problem.

[CrushNasty]

Jones has been far worse than Dimel this year.

[steve dave]

Jones has been far worse than Dimel this year.

Yeah, jones should carry the ball 100% less, Dimel should still get meaningful carries

[O-town Kat]

I have some faith the next 2 games are going to be the Silmon/Warmack tryout for Jones job in confy play.  Way too much pressure on Hubes to move the ball on the ground by design or otherwise in the 1st half Sat

[MakeItRain]

I have some faith the next 2 games are going to be the Silmon/Warmack tryout for Jones job in confy play.  Way too much pressure on Hubes to move the ball on the ground by design or otherwise in the 1st half Sat

I have no confidence that Jones will go from starter to the fourth RB, where he should be, in just one game. He's a lot more likely to start. I doubt what we saw on Saturday was any different than what happened in the spring game or what has been happening in practice the last 2 seasons.

[Yard Dog]

I guess I don't understand the hate for Dimel. In a pretty limited offense, he's got some nice tools.

From what I have seen he isn't a very smart runner. He just puts his head down and bulldozes forward. The time he tripped over the lineman's feet was very . So, I would much rather see Silmon running the ball outside the redzone. Then when we can smell the goal line, smash Dimel through it.

[kso_FAN]

I have some faith the next 2 games are going to be the Silmon/Warmack tryout for Jones job in confy play.  Way too much pressure on Hubes to move the ball on the ground by design or otherwise in the 1st half Sat

I have no confidence that Jones will go from starter to the fourth RB, where he should be, in just one game. He's a lot more likely to start. I doubt what we saw on Saturday was any different than what happened in the spring game or what has been happening in practice the last 2 seasons.

When Jones first started playing, he tended to hit holes quickly and get vertical consistently for positive yards, especially in wildcat plays. I know he was pretty banged up by the end of last year and since then he's tried to spin and bounce plays to the outside and he simply doesn't have enough speed to do that. At this point there is no way a more thorough knowledge of our offense and/or pass protections warrants starting him or getting more carries than Silmon or Warmack. And any wildcat package this year should simply be plays or series where we insert Delton. Unless Jones figures this out, there isn't much reason he should be on the field. My impression also was that Silmon is a bigger back, but according to the roster he's not. However, Jones is taller and leaner while Silmon is a thicker, more compact runner.

[yoga-like_abana]

Stud 

[slobber]

I want him to score 35 td's this year.


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[Gooch]

Winston Dimel = TD

[chum1]

I like that he's named after cigarettes.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

Winston Dimel nickname thread?

[pissclams]

Winston Dimel nickname thread?

Smokes

[Rage Against the McKee]

The Marlboro Son

Edit: Shows what I know about smokes. I thought Marlboro/Winston were the same company, but they aren't.

[AppleJack]

The Carcass

[Yard Dog]

I realize these were ideas for Ertz, but considering he'll be out for a bit I submit for consideration:

Milk Toast

White Bread