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« Reply #75 on: January 05, 2022, 10:42:25 AM »
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« Reply #76 on: January 05, 2022, 10:43:36 AM »
we played the mindless game left, center, right over the holidays. Age group from around 11 years old all the way up to mid 60's everyone had fun. Feel like the lady at the bank was a little judgey when I asked for so many dolla dolla bills

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« Reply #77 on: January 05, 2022, 10:45:25 AM »
Actually lil sd and I play chess some and I’d recommend No Stress Chess to anyone with little kids who you want to get interested in the game. Fun, quick games and teaches the basics of the game.

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« Reply #78 on: January 05, 2022, 10:53:13 AM »
@DQ12 has influenced me to start playing a ton of chess on chess.com

What is a good way to learn more in-depth chess strategy? I know how to move all the pieces to play with the kids but I'm usually only thinking 2-3 moves down the road and the games are rock fights where the board looks like a barren wasteland by the end of the game.

Play daily games on the chess.com app. That way, you can consult youtube and other chess websites between moves to learn how to play openings and how to respond to what the other player does. Also do the daily puzzle and puzzle games.
This is 100% cheating by the way and will get your account banned on chess.com.  The more legit way to do this is to play the games on your own, then go back and analyze your games afterward with an engine that will tell you the best move in any of the game's positions.  Or (afterwards) learn what the opponent did to f you and the best way to counter via youtube/engine/etc.

Like if you're a london player and you get hit with an immediate E5, you can go research after the game to find the theoretical response to D4 E5.  "Huh! This is called the Englund Gambit," you say to yourself.  "When this happens, i'm objectively better because I can play moves like D takes E, develop my King's knight and Queen's bishop to protect the pawn, and when the enemy queen comes out to get tricky, I can put her in a really uncomfortable spot after I move my bishop back to D2 and she takes B2."  Congrats, you're ready to win most of your games whenever schmucks try to get cute on you and hit you with E5.  Learning and applying all of that is really fun and how it's supposed to work.

I'm not incredible by any stretch, but my rapid rating is about 1300 or so.  There are several good youtubers that got me a lot more in a position to more or less know what i'm doing.  Anyway, for the most part, as a beginner, all you really need is several openings plans and an understanding of common tactical patterns.  Figure out what opening you want to play as white -- a lot of good resources on youtube.  I play and would recommend the london, as you can (for the most part) spam the first 6 moves or so.  As black, really just have a response to the most common white openings (E4/London/Queen's Gambit).  Otherwise, you can just spam the King's Indian Defense if you want a solid setup you can play in any game.  Plenty of good videos on the KID out there.

A few recommendos:
Gothamchess - He's an international master/twitch streamer/youtuber.  I watch his videos just about every day.  They vary between instructional stuff (short introductions to openings, analysis/critiques of lower level games) to coverage/analysis of top super GM games and tournaments.  He's also trying to become a grandmaster and is analyzing his own tournament games and prep.  Not the smartest chess person in the world (he would get absolutely smoked by magnus or any other super GM, for example), but certainly smart enough to be a fantastic teacher.  He's the best. I'd start there.

Ben Finegold - Grandmaster, extremely HCIQ.  He's a twitch/youtube guy.  He used to teach all levels at various chess clubs and a bunch of the beginner lessons are published to youtube.  I've found his teaching to be a little impractical, as, for the most part, he teaches stone cold theory, which is rarely played under 1600 or so.  Regardless, he's absolutely hilarious. Watching his beginner classes are really funny because all of his jokes go way above the heads of the 6 year old chess savant students.

Eric Rosen - Not super instructional or particularly charismatic, but another International Master who is fun to watch play.  He has long youtube videos where he's playing super yolo gambits.  Roughly on Gotham's level as far as HCIQ goes.  Reminds me of Nate from Ted Lasso before roughly midway through season 2t.

For tactics, probably just grind puzzles on lichess (free/don't have a daily max) or some other chess puzzle website.

On a daily game? I don't see that as cheating at all. And I don't see how it could possibly get you banned from chess.com unless you are on their forums posting your game and asking for advice or something.

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« Reply #79 on: January 05, 2022, 11:02:46 AM »
@DQ12 has influenced me to start playing a ton of chess on chess.com

What is a good way to learn more in-depth chess strategy? I know how to move all the pieces to play with the kids but I'm usually only thinking 2-3 moves down the road and the games are rock fights where the board looks like a barren wasteland by the end of the game.

Play daily games on the chess.com app. That way, you can consult youtube and other chess websites between moves to learn how to play openings and how to respond to what the other player does. Also do the daily puzzle and puzzle games.
This is 100% cheating by the way and will get your account banned on chess.com.  The more legit way to do this is to play the games on your own, then go back and analyze your games afterward with an engine that will tell you the best move in any of the game's positions.  Or (afterwards) learn what the opponent did to f you and the best way to counter via youtube/engine/etc.

Like if you're a london player and you get hit with an immediate E5, you can go research after the game to find the theoretical response to D4 E5.  "Huh! This is called the Englund Gambit," you say to yourself.  "When this happens, i'm objectively better because I can play moves like D takes E, develop my King's knight and Queen's bishop to protect the pawn, and when the enemy queen comes out to get tricky, I can put her in a really uncomfortable spot after I move my bishop back to D2 and she takes B2."  Congrats, you're ready to win most of your games whenever schmucks try to get cute on you and hit you with E5.  Learning and applying all of that is really fun and how it's supposed to work.

I'm not incredible by any stretch, but my rapid rating is about 1300 or so.  There are several good youtubers that got me a lot more in a position to more or less know what i'm doing.  Anyway, for the most part, as a beginner, all you really need is several openings plans and an understanding of common tactical patterns.  Figure out what opening you want to play as white -- a lot of good resources on youtube.  I play and would recommend the london, as you can (for the most part) spam the first 6 moves or so.  As black, really just have a response to the most common white openings (E4/London/Queen's Gambit).  Otherwise, you can just spam the King's Indian Defense if you want a solid setup you can play in any game.  Plenty of good videos on the KID out there.

A few recommendos:
Gothamchess - He's an international master/twitch streamer/youtuber.  I watch his videos just about every day.  They vary between instructional stuff (short introductions to openings, analysis/critiques of lower level games) to coverage/analysis of top super GM games and tournaments.  He's also trying to become a grandmaster and is analyzing his own tournament games and prep.  Not the smartest chess person in the world (he would get absolutely smoked by magnus or any other super GM, for example), but certainly smart enough to be a fantastic teacher.  He's the best. I'd start there.

Ben Finegold - Grandmaster, extremely HCIQ.  He's a twitch/youtube guy.  He used to teach all levels at various chess clubs and a bunch of the beginner lessons are published to youtube.  I've found his teaching to be a little impractical, as, for the most part, he teaches stone cold theory, which is rarely played under 1600 or so.  Regardless, he's absolutely hilarious. Watching his beginner classes are really funny because all of his jokes go way above the heads of the 6 year old chess savant students.

Eric Rosen - Not super instructional or particularly charismatic, but another International Master who is fun to watch play.  He has long youtube videos where he's playing super yolo gambits.  Roughly on Gotham's level as far as HCIQ goes.  Reminds me of Nate from Ted Lasso before roughly midway through season 2t.

For tactics, probably just grind puzzles on lichess (free/don't have a daily max) or some other chess puzzle website.

On a daily game? I don't see that as cheating at all. And I don't see how it could possibly get you banned from chess.com unless you are on their forums posting your game and asking for advice or something.
You don't see it as cheating to be getting advice/theory from third parties during your games?  It's absolutely, 100% cheating.  It's the functional equivalent of playing with an engine.   

IDK how good the chess.com fair play algo is (especially as it relates to dailies), but I do know that one of my friends got banned for being an idiot and playing rapid games with an expert over his shoulder for an afternoon.  Regardless, it absolutely is cheating.

Like, obviously, if you're playing daily games and want to learn theory, sure, learn theory.  But if you're 4 moves in to the advanced caro-kann or something, and you don't know what to do on move 5 so you watch an advanced caro kann video to apply it to your ongoing game, that is cheating.


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« Reply #80 on: January 05, 2022, 11:04:17 AM »
@DQ12 has influenced me to start playing a ton of chess on chess.com

What is a good way to learn more in-depth chess strategy? I know how to move all the pieces to play with the kids but I'm usually only thinking 2-3 moves down the road and the games are rock fights where the board looks like a barren wasteland by the end of the game.

Play daily games on the chess.com app. That way, you can consult youtube and other chess websites between moves to learn how to play openings and how to respond to what the other player does. Also do the daily puzzle and puzzle games.
This is 100% cheating by the way and will get your account banned on chess.com.  The more legit way to do this is to play the games on your own, then go back and analyze your games afterward with an engine that will tell you the best move in any of the game's positions.  Or (afterwards) learn what the opponent did to f you and the best way to counter via youtube/engine/etc.

Like if you're a london player and you get hit with an immediate E5, you can go research after the game to find the theoretical response to D4 E5.  "Huh! This is called the Englund Gambit," you say to yourself.  "When this happens, i'm objectively better because I can play moves like D takes E, develop my King's knight and Queen's bishop to protect the pawn, and when the enemy queen comes out to get tricky, I can put her in a really uncomfortable spot after I move my bishop back to D2 and she takes B2."  Congrats, you're ready to win most of your games whenever schmucks try to get cute on you and hit you with E5.  Learning and applying all of that is really fun and how it's supposed to work.

I'm not incredible by any stretch, but my rapid rating is about 1300 or so.  There are several good youtubers that got me a lot more in a position to more or less know what i'm doing.  Anyway, for the most part, as a beginner, all you really need is several openings plans and an understanding of common tactical patterns.  Figure out what opening you want to play as white -- a lot of good resources on youtube.  I play and would recommend the london, as you can (for the most part) spam the first 6 moves or so.  As black, really just have a response to the most common white openings (E4/London/Queen's Gambit).  Otherwise, you can just spam the King's Indian Defense if you want a solid setup you can play in any game.  Plenty of good videos on the KID out there.

A few recommendos:
Gothamchess - He's an international master/twitch streamer/youtuber.  I watch his videos just about every day.  They vary between instructional stuff (short introductions to openings, analysis/critiques of lower level games) to coverage/analysis of top super GM games and tournaments.  He's also trying to become a grandmaster and is analyzing his own tournament games and prep.  Not the smartest chess person in the world (he would get absolutely smoked by magnus or any other super GM, for example), but certainly smart enough to be a fantastic teacher.  He's the best. I'd start there.

Ben Finegold - Grandmaster, extremely HCIQ.  He's a twitch/youtube guy.  He used to teach all levels at various chess clubs and a bunch of the beginner lessons are published to youtube.  I've found his teaching to be a little impractical, as, for the most part, he teaches stone cold theory, which is rarely played under 1600 or so.  Regardless, he's absolutely hilarious. Watching his beginner classes are really funny because all of his jokes go way above the heads of the 6 year old chess savant students.

Eric Rosen - Not super instructional or particularly charismatic, but another International Master who is fun to watch play.  He has long youtube videos where he's playing super yolo gambits.  Roughly on Gotham's level as far as HCIQ goes.  Reminds me of Nate from Ted Lasso before roughly midway through season 2t.

For tactics, probably just grind puzzles on lichess (free/don't have a daily max) or some other chess puzzle website.

On a daily game? I don't see that as cheating at all. And I don't see how it could possibly get you banned from chess.com unless you are on their forums posting your game and asking for advice or something.
You don't see it as cheating to be getting advice from GMs during your games?  It's absolutely, 100% cheating.  It's the functional equivalent of playing with an engine.   

IDK how good the chess.com fair play algo is (especially as it relates to dailies), but I do know that one of my friends got banned for being an idiot and playing rapid games with an expert over his shoulder for an afternoon.  Regardless, it absolutely is cheating.

Getting advice from a GM? You mean like asking a GM? Sure, that's cheating. Watching a Youtube video? No, that's not cheating.

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« Reply #81 on: January 05, 2022, 11:06:33 AM »
The difference is that you aren't getting advice on the game that you are actively playing beyond the first 3 or 4 moves from watching a Youtube video or reading up on an opening.

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« Reply #82 on: January 05, 2022, 11:07:09 AM »
Getting advice from a GM? You mean like asking a GM? Sure, that's cheating. Watching a Youtube video? No, that's not cheating.
What is the difference?  If you don't know what to do when you're getting fried livered or something, so you consult the internet on how to respond to the fried liver, it's the same thing as asking.  Like if it's just you and a buddy playing unranked or something, who cares, but if you're matchmaking for daily rating points, yeah that's bullshit imo.


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« Reply #83 on: January 05, 2022, 11:09:35 AM »
Like if you're getting fried livered and you research and learn the traxler or some theoretically awesome line to respond (which, the theory there goes like pretty deep), yeah that's totally cheating.  There's no way a 800 or someone initially unfamiliar with a position in the first 4 or 5 moves is going to be able to bust out the next 10 theoretical moves that wins you the game.  That you see a position (an early position), and learn and apply the best (or at least a quality) theoretical response to it midgame -- that is like the definition of cheating.
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« Reply #84 on: January 05, 2022, 11:13:52 AM »


Chess.com definitely thinks it is cheating
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« Reply #85 on: January 05, 2022, 11:21:04 AM »


Chess.com definitely thinks it is cheating

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https://www.chess.com/legal/fair-play

You are allowed to purchase a book and read along with it following the theory on daily play. I think watching a Youtube video is probably ok.

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Chess.com definitely thinks it is cheating

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You may use Opening Explorer or other books without engine evaluations in Daily chess only (not in Online / Live play)

https://www.chess.com/legal/fair-play

You are allowed to purchase a book and read along with it following the theory on daily play. I think watching a Youtube video is probably ok.
Fair enough -- that's surprising to me, but I stand corrected.  Not cheating in daily chess -- sorry for coming at you so hard/dismissively.  Though it does surprise me a bit.

Anyway, i still think that's an odd/slow way to really progress in the game. 


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« Reply #87 on: January 09, 2022, 11:12:21 AM »
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« Reply #88 on: January 09, 2022, 11:53:59 AM »
enjoying the new wordle game. However I can't figure out how to post the squares that i keep seeing on twitter.  :bang:

After you finish a stats screen pops up. In the lower right is a green button that says “Share”. When you press it, it copies it to your clipboard. Then just go to Twitter, start a new draft, & paste.
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« Reply #89 on: January 09, 2022, 11:55:24 AM »
Telestrations is a fixture at seven family get-togethers. 100% hit rate on making me cry laughing.
Yep and I don't think I've ever kept score or done anything but laugh
I used to always get this game going at big enough get togethers, but just using paper booklets (with Pictionary cards for inspiration if needed).

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« Reply #90 on: January 09, 2022, 09:32:13 PM »
enjoying the new wordle game. However I can't figure out how to post the squares that i keep seeing on twitter.  :bang:

After you finish a stats screen pops up. In the lower right is a green button that says “Share”. When you press it, it copies it to your clipboard. Then just go to Twitter, start a new draft, & paste.

well sonofa. I got thrown off by the screenshot options on my phone after hitting share. Didn't realize i could just paste. ty
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« Reply #91 on: January 11, 2022, 10:27:46 AM »
enjoying the new wordle game. However I can't figure out how to post the squares that i keep seeing on twitter.  :bang:

I think wordle is gonna be over before it makes it to android. :frown:

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« Reply #92 on: January 11, 2022, 11:40:19 AM »
enjoying the new wordle game. However I can't figure out how to post the squares that i keep seeing on twitter.  :bang:

I think wordle is gonna be over before it makes it to android. :frown:
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« Reply #93 on: January 11, 2022, 11:42:47 AM »
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I think wordle is gonna be over before it makes it to android. :frown:
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« Reply #94 on: January 11, 2022, 11:44:34 AM »
When I was young, I thought I was "smart." Once I hit grad school and met REAL smart people it ruined lots of stuff for me.  Chess and other games that require very fast calculations are completely out for me now. I have no desire to be reminded about how pedestrian my brain really is. :don'tcare:

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« Reply #95 on: January 11, 2022, 12:27:14 PM »
I think chess especially is a game where you might need to be smart to make it to the top/professional tier, but it’s mostly stuff anyone can learn through enough training and practice.

I say this as an extremely intelligent person who sucks at chess.

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« Reply #96 on: January 11, 2022, 02:08:51 PM »
LMAO found the archive and this game is too easy


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« Reply #97 on: January 11, 2022, 03:53:41 PM »
I think chess especially is a game where you might need to be smart to make it to the top/professional tier, but it’s mostly stuff anyone can learn through enough training and practice.

I say this as an extremely intelligent person who sucks at chess.
The thing about practicing and learning the intricacies of chess is that it has the added benefit of making you really good at chess.  I think it's basically like any other game -- no real application outside of itself.  Still fun and frustrating as hell though. 

I think the super-gm freaks who are really good at chess are extremely skilled at memorization, chess-visualization and chess-pattern recognition.  I don't know if Magnus (for example) is "smart" in any other context but chess. 

I think that is the case for modern times where theory is pretty well established and easy to access.  In ye olden tymes when guys like Paul Morphy were ruling the world, I think there was a higher barrier to entry for playing chess at a skilled level, as theory wasn't really established, and learning about the game was far less accessible.  Basically, every game (even "high level" games) was more or less free-styled or self-prepared.  Playing brilliant chess back then required something distinct from rote theory memorization or pattern recognition and required actual, original creative brilliance. 
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« Reply #98 on: January 11, 2022, 07:28:19 PM »
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« Reply #99 on: February 21, 2022, 11:38:04 AM »
LMAO found the archive and this game is too easy


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