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Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« on: May 12, 2015, 12:58:38 PM »
I get the whole free market thing, and for most things it works very very well (education, infrastructure, healthcare, and defense are the things i dont believe it works that great for). But at some point cant you just make too much money? I mean giving away 150 million to a school ,that has 2 performing arts center, to build another performing arts center just seems like a massive waste of resources, when there is so much need in the world.

I know I'm a Commie for saying this, but at some point shouldnt society get this money, and decide what it wants to be done with it? I dont know, i just feel like its ridiculous that someone has this money and is willing to waste for another performing arts center at a school that doesnt need it.  I look forward to being called a libtard.



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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2015, 01:10:45 PM »
You won't be a real commie until you free yourself from the idea that money is real
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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2015, 01:13:58 PM »
You won't be a real commie until you free yourself from the idea that money is real

Well I dont think I'll ever be a true a commie, but i figured I would be called one, so get it out of the way in the beginning.

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2015, 01:29:04 PM »
To take this in another direction, the whole "invisible hand" thing that Adam Smith talks about I believe is warped in the modern economy, with high frequency trading, and traders in general. What makes traders rich, is not necessarily what is best for the economy or society.

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2015, 01:39:00 PM »
I get the whole free market thing, and for most things it works very very well (education, infrastructure, healthcare, and defense are the things i dont believe it works that great for).

You don't think the free market works very well for education? Why do you think it is that all those rich liberals send their kids to private schools?

Healthcare? Why do you think the rich people in countries with socialized medicine pay for private doctors?
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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2015, 01:43:21 PM »
The Ivy League should self-impose a cap on annual donations. Maybe they could do it like a baseball salary cap and a percentage of dollars over a certain amount goes to early education for the poor.

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2015, 02:59:50 PM »
If I want to use my money to build an artistic cow dung memorial for Hillary, I should be able to do it.  My money, my thing.  I don't want any damn 'ol communist/ progressive/ money grubber liberal taking my money for social gooding - crap forgot about taxes.  My beef is the hypocrite rich who call for the government to spend money for good causes, but waste their own money on shrines such as this to show that the sun does shine out of their starholes.

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2015, 03:08:22 PM »
all government is horribly corrupt and communist/socialist governments are the worst.

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2015, 03:17:16 PM »
The adage "live simply so others may simply live" comes to mind.

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2015, 03:25:10 PM »
The adage "live simply so others may simply live" comes to mind.

This is a good lesson for politicians making incredibly wasteful welfare policy. Churches and some charities are the best at living by this credo.

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2015, 04:11:46 PM »
private accumulations of wealth have some tendency to creating great works of art, architecture and ideas as well as preserving/conserving great tracts of land.  poor and middle class people, rather desperately poor or slightly better off, have a greater tendency to create fewer marvels of this world.
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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2015, 04:18:06 PM »
all government is horribly corrupt and communist/socialist governments are the worst.

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2015, 06:22:52 PM »
I just read the article, and I think it brings up a good point - the donation in question should not be tax-deductible.

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2015, 07:40:15 PM »
The adage "live simply so others may simply live" comes to mind.

This is a good lesson for politicians making incredibly wasteful welfare policy. Churches and some charities are the best at living by this credo.

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2015, 09:32:59 AM »
I get the whole free market thing, and for most things it works very very well (education, infrastructure, healthcare, and defense are the things i dont believe it works that great for). But at some point cant you just make too much money? I mean giving away 150 million to a school ,that has 2 performing arts center, to build another performing arts center just seems like a massive waste of resources, when there is so much need in the world.

I know I'm a Commie for saying this, but at some point shouldnt society get this money, and decide what it wants to be done with it? I dont know, i just feel like its ridiculous that someone has this money and is willing to waste for another performing arts center at a school that doesnt need it.  I look forward to being called a libtard.



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How do you give money to society? Unless you mean the federal government, in which case you are a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

And why would you ever read an article from vox?
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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2015, 09:55:53 AM »
The adage "live simply so others may simply live" comes to mind.

This is a good lesson for politicians making incredibly wasteful welfare policy. Churches and some charities are the best at living by this credo.

uh no

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2015, 11:49:39 AM »
The adage "live simply so others may simply live" comes to mind.

This is a good lesson for politicians making incredibly wasteful welfare policy. Churches and some charities are the best at living by this credo.

uh no

Uh, yes. In fact, they are by and large more efficient than most charities. It's amazing what old ladies do in their spare time for free.
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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2015, 11:52:00 AM »
And I'm not advocating giving money to churches . Just that, if the premise is that we should a ton of someone else's money to society, it's far more likely to get it there through the church vehicle than through the federal government.
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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2015, 02:07:44 PM »
And I'm not advocating giving money to churches . Just that, if the premise is that we should a ton of someone else's money to society, it's far more likely to get it there through the church vehicle than through the federal government.

No dispute that they are more efficient than the gov, but to say they "live simply" is pretty far fetched.  Go to St. Michael's at 141 and nall

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2015, 03:11:00 PM »
And I'm not advocating giving money to churches . Just that, if the premise is that we should a ton of someone else's money to society, it's far more likely to get it there through the church vehicle than through the federal government.

No dispute that they are more efficient than the gov, but to say they "live simply" is pretty far fetched.  Go to St. Michael's at 141 and nall

It looks like a nice school in a nice neighborhood.  :dunno:

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2015, 04:46:02 PM »
Just some simple churchy things:










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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2015, 05:12:37 PM »
those are (mostly) beautiful.
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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2015, 05:27:53 PM »
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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2015, 05:35:42 PM »
Built to last. The cheapest is rarely the best value, especially in construction.

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Re: Communist Hot Take On Super Rich
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2015, 07:02:02 PM »
Rich people don't spend very much of their money on anything. They pretty much just hoard it.