Author Topic: John Oliver on U.S. Territorial Citizenry (Read 2617 times)

nicname · « **on:** March 12, 2015, 09:42:41 AM »

Never heard much about this until now. Seems absurdly archaic.

http://time.com/3736845/john-oliver-last-week-tonight-voting-rights/

0.42 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2015, 09:55:00 AM »

yes

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michigancat · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2015, 11:42:22 AM »

this is one of many archaic aspects of our government.

SdK · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2015, 12:09:53 PM »

Hoe Lee crap.

#TheWesIsTheFuture

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2015, 01:30:38 PM »

Did he mention anything about federal income taxes?

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2015, 09:49:10 PM »

Arcane or archaic?

SdK · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2015, 10:23:33 PM »

You can fight and die for us, but heaven forbid you have a say in who sends you there.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2015, 11:53:53 PM »

Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 12, 2015, 01:30:38 PM

Did he mention anything about federal income taxes?

Why would he need to?

Headinjun · « **Reply #8 on:** March 13, 2015, 01:48:33 AM »

Wow. Such ignorance on my part.

Sign me up on whichever bandwagon is being built to make these places states.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2015, 01:56:19 AM »

Just drop them down to independent

SdK · « **Reply #10 on:** March 14, 2015, 01:17:36 AM »

They want to vote not reap the rewards haha of taxes

Spracne · « **Reply #11 on:** March 14, 2015, 01:55:55 AM »

Have you guys been to Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands? They're fine. They don't care about all this enfranchisement razzmatazz. If we make them states, it would mess everything up. Think about the flags, people.

nicname · « **Reply #12 on:** March 14, 2015, 04:59:54 AM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 12, 2015, 09:49:10 PM

Arcane or archaic?

BOTH! But yes, I may have misused a word there.

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2015, 10:07:30 AM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on March 12, 2015, 11:53:53 PM

Quote from: john "teach me how to" dougie on March 12, 2015, 01:30:38 PM
Did he mention anything about federal income taxes?

Why would he need to?

The only people that pay federal income taxes either work for the federal government or make money outside the territory. We would be better off cutting them loose.

SdK · « **Reply #14 on:** March 15, 2015, 12:30:41 PM »

I paid taxes when I couldn't vote.

Headinjun · « **Reply #15 on:** March 15, 2015, 02:49:15 PM »

Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on March 15, 2015, 12:30:41 PM

I paid taxes when I couldn't vote.

I forgot about that.

Thanks Clinton!!!

sys · « **Reply #16 on:** March 15, 2015, 03:00:42 PM »

don't know enough about the others to comment (but assume they're prolly similar), but with respect to pr, i don't see what the issue is. their status is fair.

hopefully they'll become a state soon.

michigancat · « **Reply #17 on:** March 15, 2015, 03:49:15 PM »

Didn't PR vote against statehood not too long ago?

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #18 on:** March 15, 2015, 03:52:58 PM »

I'm sure PR is looking across the pond thinking, "their king is a rough ridin' idiot and an bad person, maybe in a couple years".

michigancat · « **Reply #19 on:** March 15, 2015, 04:10:46 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/07/politics/election-puerto-rico/

Must have been further back when they voted against it

star seed 7 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 15, 2015, 04:19:36 PM »

Quote from: sys on March 15, 2015, 03:00:42 PM

don't know enough about the others to comment (but assume they're prolly similar), but with respect to pr, i don't see what the issue is. their status is fair.

hopefully they'll become a state soon.

yes. either become states and everything that goes with that or have your own country and everything that goes with that. having "territories" is very strange now. i'm sure they are all beneficial in their own way, but i don't care which they choose. all of them could be one state for all i care.

sys · « **Reply #21 on:** March 15, 2015, 05:44:26 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 15, 2015, 04:10:46 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/07/politics/election-puerto-rico/

Must have been further back when they voted against it

they've voted against it repeatedly in the past. they seem to be getting closer to wanting to join. i think they're supposed to have another vote before too long.

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #22 on:** March 16, 2015, 12:10:43 AM »

It would be a huge win for the liberal agenda since Puerto Rico has a 59% labor force participation rate, but a huge blow to taxpayers. A major net loss for the U.S. Worse drain on the economy than West Virginia and New Mexico.

Headinjun · « **Reply #23 on:** March 16, 2015, 12:18:24 AM »

How could anybody be against this?

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #24 on:** March 16, 2015, 01:10:19 AM »

Quote from: Headinjun on March 16, 2015, 12:18:24 AM

How could anybody be against this?

Against what?