Wonder why we didn't have a Big 12 Awards thread this season?

[MakeItRain]

Chuggins winning the COY and Marcus being HM All-Conference were both laughable.

There was a news guy here in Iowa going H.A.M that Hield and Staten were picked for the first team over Monte Morris, said Morris was "ripped off."

[michigancat]

Chuggins winning the COY and Marcus being HM All-Conference were both laughable.

really? I think they both make sense.

[MakeItRain]

Chuggins winning the COY and Marcus being HM All-Conference were both laughable.

really? I think they both make sense.

Self was and is clearly the best coach in the conference, Huggins has been there way too long to get a rookie coach benefit of the doubt vote. Marcus has no business anywhere around the All-Conference team, he was either suspended or completely a non-factor for nearly half of the conference schedule. If the coaches felt like they had to have a K-Stater then Nino was the clear choice.

[michigancat]

Chuggins winning the COY and Marcus being HM All-Conference were both laughable.

really? I think they both make sense.

Self was and is clearly the best coach in the conference, Huggins has been there way too long to get a rookie coach benefit of the doubt vote. Marcus has no business anywhere around the All-Conference team, he was either suspended or completely a non-factor for nearly half of the conference schedule. If the coaches felt like they had to have a K-Stater then Nino was the clear choice.

I haven't looked at the whole list because no one linked it in this thread.

Just one coach had to vote for Marcus.

Self should win coach of the year every year but I don't have a big problem with giving it to the second best coach every now and then.

[Reboulet]

It's a sham that the opposing coaches vote for COY. These coaches are so jealous of Self for, year after year, making the look 2nd tier. I realize he can't win it every year, but this year he did more w less than he has in years past. Hell, he single handedly willed and coached Perry to 1st team status.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/mar/08/squeezed-out-player-year-perry-ellis-earns-first-t/

[MakeItRain]

Chuggins winning the COY and Marcus being HM All-Conference were both laughable.

really? I think they both make sense.

Self was and is clearly the best coach in the conference, Huggins has been there way too long to get a rookie coach benefit of the doubt vote. Marcus has no business anywhere around the All-Conference team, he was either suspended or completely a non-factor for nearly half of the conference schedule. If the coaches felt like they had to have a K-Stater then Nino was the clear choice.

I haven't looked at the whole list because no one linked it in this thread.

Just one coach had to vote for Marcus.

Self should win coach of the year every year but I don't have a big problem with giving it to the second best coach every now and then.

Scott Drew or Lon Kruger didn't win either

[michigancat]

neither did Hoiberg

[kso_FAN]

I'm not surprised Marcus got HM. He was the player on this team opponents had to game plan for most, he basically won both OU games, and still was our PPG leader.

Coach of the Year:   Bob Huggins, West Virginia
Player of the Year:   Buddy Hield, Oklahoma
Defensive Player of the Year:   Jameel McKay, Iowa State
Sixth Man Award:   Taurean Prince, Baylor
Newcomer of the Year:   TaShawn Thomas, Oklahoma
Freshman of the Year:   Myles Turner, Texas


All-Big 12 First Team   Pos.   Ht.   Wt.   Cl.   Hometown/Previous School(s)
Rico Gathers, Baylor   F   6-8   275   Jr.   LaPlace, La./Riverside Academy
Georges Niang, Iowa State   F   6-8   230   Jr.   Methuen, Mass./The Tilton School
Perry Ellis, Kansas   F   6-8   225   Jr.   Wichita, Kan./Wichita Heights
Buddy Hield, Oklahoma   G   6-4   212   Jr.   Freeport, Bahamas/Sunrise Christian Academy [Kan.]
Juwan Staten, West Virginia   G   6-1   190   Sr.   Dayton, Ohio/Dayton
 
All-Big 12 Second Team   Pos.   Ht.   Wt.   Cl.   Hometown/Previous School(s)
Kenny Chery, Baylor   G   5-11   180   Sr.   Montreal, Quebec/Archbishop Carroll [D.C.]/State Fair CC
Taurean Prince, Baylor   F   6-7   215   Jr.   San Antonio, Texas/Earl Warren
Monté Morris, Iowa State   G   6-2   170   So.   Flint, Mich./Beecher
Frank Mason III, Kansas   G   5-11   185   So.   Petersburg, Va./Massanutten Military Academy
Le'Bryan Nash, Oklahoma State   F   6-7   235   Sr.   Dallas, Texas/Lincoln
 
All-Big 12 Third Team   Pos.   Ht.   Wt.   Cl.   Hometown/Previous School(s)
Jameel McKay, Iowa State   F   6-9   215   Jr.   Milwaukee, Wis./Indian Hills CC [Iowa]/Marquette/Pulaski
TaShawn Thomas, Oklahoma   F   6-8   242   Sr.   Killeen, Texas/University of Houston
Phil Forte, Oklahoma State   G   5-11   185   Jr.   Flower Mound, Texas/Marcus
Isaiah Taylor, Texas   G   6-1   170   So.   Hayward, Calif./The Village School [Texas]
Myles Turner, Texas   F   6-11   240   Fr.   Bedford, Texas/Euless Trinity
 
All-Big 12 Honorable Mention (Listed alphabetically by school)
Dustin Hogue (Iowa State), Kelly Oubre (Kansas), Wayne Selden (Kansas), Marcus Foster (Kansas State), Thomas Gipson (Kansas State), Nino Williams (Kansas State), Isaiah Cousins (Oklahoma), Ryan Spangler (Oklahoma), Kyan Anderson (TCU), Jonathan Holmes (Texas), Devin Williams (West Virginia)
 
Big 12 All-Defensive Team   Pos.   Ht.   Wt.   Cl.   Hometown/Previous School(s)
Rico Gathers, Baylor   F   6-8   275   Jr.   LaPlace, La./Riverside Academy
Jameel McKay, Iowa State   F   6-9   215   Jr.   Milwaukee, Wis./Indian Hills CC [Iowa]/Marquette/Pulaski
Michael Cobbins, Oklahoma State   F   6-8   230   Sr.   Amarillo, Texas/Palo Duro
Anthony Hickey, Oklahoma State   G   5-11   185   Sr.   Hopkinsville, Ky./Christian County/LSU
Myles Turner, Texas   F   6-11   240   Fr.   Bedford, Texas/Euless Trinity
Jevon Carter, West Virginia   G   6-2   185   Fr.   Maywood, Ill./Proviso East
 
Big 12 All-Newcomer Team   Pos.   Ht.   Wt.   Cl.   Hometown/Previous School(s)
Jameel McKay, Iowa State**   F   6-9   215   Jr.   Milwaukee, Wis./Indian Hills CC [Iowa]/Marquette/Pulaski
Kelly Oubre, Kansas   G   6-7   200   Fr.   New Orleans, La./Findlay Prep [Nev.]
TaShawn Thomas, Oklahoma   F   6-8   242   Sr.   Killeen, Texas/University of Houston
Anthony Hickey, Oklahoma State   G   5-11   185   Sr.   Hopkinsville, Ky./Christian County/LSU
Myles Turner, Texas   F   6-11   240   Fr.   Bedford, Texas/Euless Trinity
** - Unanimous Selection
Ties in the voting created an additional spot on the All-Defensive Team

FIRST TEAM:

Perry Ellis, Kansas, Jr., 6-8, 225, Wichita, Kan.

Rico Gathers, Baylor, Jr., 6-8, 275, LaPlace, La.

Buddy Hield, Oklahoma, Jr., 6-4, 212, Freeport, Bahamas

Georges Niang, Iowa St., Jr., 6-8, 230, Methuen, Mass.

Juwan Staten, West Virginia, Sr., 6-1, 190, Dayton, Ohio

SECOND TEAM:

Phil Forte, Oklahoma St., Jr., 5-11, 185, Flower Mound, Texas

Frank Mason III, Kansas, So., 5-11, 185, Petersburg, Va.

Monte Morris, Iowa St., So., 6-2, 170, Flint, Mich.

Le'Bryan Nash, Oklahoma St., Sr., 6-7, 235, Dallas

Taurean Prince, Baylor, Jr., 6-7, 215, San Antonio

HONORABLE MENTION: Kyan Anderson, TCU; Kenny Chery, Baylor; Jameel McKay, Iowa St.; Ryan Spangler, Oklahoma; Isaiah Taylor, Texas; TaShawn Thomas, Oklahoma; Devin Williams, West Virginia; Nino Williams, Kansas St.

COACH OF THE YEAR: Bill Self, Kansas.

PLAYER OF THE YEAR: Buddy Hield, Oklahoma.

NEWCOMER OF THE YEAR: TaShawn Thomas, Oklahoma.

FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR: Myles Turner, Texas.

[Mixed-Nutz]

Huggins righted a ship going the wrong way, I think the award is well deserved. Self lost the most conference games during his KU tenure. I think Lon's body of work at OU is something that could be consider to win the award.

[MakeItRain]

neither did Hoiberg

You said second best, not sixth

[MakeItRain]

Huggins righted a ship going the wrong way, I think the award is well deserved. Self lost the most conference games during his KU tenure. I think Lon's body of work at OU is something that could be consider to win the award.

You do realize that he was the coach when the ship was "going the wrong way" right? They were a whole 2 games better in conference this year, that's right TWO!

[Mixed-Nutz]

Huggins righted a ship going the wrong way, I think the award is well deserved. Self lost the most conference games during his KU tenure. I think Lon's body of work at OU is something that could be consider to win the award.

You do realize that he was the coach when the ship was "going the wrong way" right? They were a whole 2 games better in conference this year, that's right TWO!

His team went for a Kenpom ranking of 68 to 24.

[michigancat]

Huggins righted a ship going the wrong way, I think the award is well deserved. Self lost the most conference games during his KU tenure. I think Lon's body of work at OU is something that could be consider to win the award.

You do realize that he was the coach when the ship was "going the wrong way" right? They were a whole 2 games better in conference this year, that's right TWO!

Well, OU wasn't any games better and Drew was also two games better but if that's the metric you wanna use...

[kso_FAN]

I think established coaches like Huggs get a bit of a pass for an occasional bad season or two, then get rewarded when they recover with a good one. That seems to be what happened.

[Mixed-Nutz]

Huggins righted a ship going the wrong way, I think the award is well deserved. Self lost the most conference games during his KU tenure. I think Lon's body of work at OU is something that could be consider to win the award.

You do realize that he was the coach when the ship was "going the wrong way" right? They were a whole 2 games better in conference this year, that's right TWO!

Well, OU wasn't any games better and Drew was also two games better but if that's the metric you wanna use...

Trent Johnson for BIG12 COY!!!!!

[WillieWatanabe]

I totally forgot Ejim won PotY last year until a KU fan brought it up on twitter.

Pretty sad to not even care to look at these :(

[MakeItRain]

Huggins righted a ship going the wrong way, I think the award is well deserved. Self lost the most conference games during his KU tenure. I think Lon's body of work at OU is something that could be consider to win the award.

You do realize that he was the coach when the ship was "going the wrong way" right? They were a whole 2 games better in conference this year, that's right TWO!

Well, OU wasn't any games better and Drew was also two games better but if that's the metric you wanna use...

I didn't use the improvement metric, mixed-nutz did. I'm fairly certain I said Self should have been the POY. The two games was just to show  m-n that his train wrong direction thing was absurd.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

iirc, gipson was 2nd or 3rd team the past few years. sad that he has to watch a pretty good career go down the drain thanks to oscar.

[CNS]

Self doesn't always get COY when his team isn't seen by some as arguably the worst of his teams in a decade.  Why would he get it when his team is seen by some as arguably the worst of his teams in a decade?

[kso_FAN]

Self doesn't always get COY when his team isn't seen by some as arguably the worst of his teams in a decade.  Why would he get it when his team is seen by some as arguably the worst of his teams in a decade?

"Worst team in a decade" for Self is very relative.

Self's finishes in kenpom (starting with this year): 9, 12, 8, 4, 2, 2, 10, 1, 5, 8, 13, 16.

[Panjandrum]

I'm no Jayhawk historian, but my opinion is that Self is probably the greatest coach in KU history.

He's coaching in K's era, and he hasn't won multiple titles yet, but when it's all said and done, his resume is going to be beyond ridiculous.

[wetwillie]

huggins beat KU twice this year, thats probably why he got COY. 

[CNS]

I think self is going to be talked about as one of the best ever anywhere by the time he is done.  Assuming he stays in college.

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[MakeItRain]

huggins beat KU twice this year, thats probably why he got COY.

You see something I didn't, because I'm fairly certain KU beat WVU on senior night to win the conference title?

[HerrSonntag]

huggins beat KU twice this year, thats probably why he got COY.

You see something I didn't, because I'm fairly certain KU beat WVU on senior night to win the conference title?

The COY voters go to bed early