Well hello there SAE

[MakeItRain]

http://elitedaily.com/news/fraternity-rush-topless-pic-sae/1254997/

 

Lemme get this straight, girl meets 18 year old boy at a rally in which girl is fighting for her rights to show her boobs in public, boy asks girl to show her boobs, girl responds by putting their conversation on the internet and uses the interaction to rail against rape culture; did I get that right?

It was a booby trap.

Oh wow

[pissclams]

http://gawker.com/frat-bros-smile-pretty-after-allegedly-beating-man-wit-1738062751

[meow meow]

you can't swing a dead cat without hitting at least 8 or 9 frat bros being awful people stories

[Dub]

http://gawker.com/frat-bros-smile-pretty-after-allegedly-beating-man-wit-1738062751

Why did they feel the need to keep reiterating that those were the real names of everyone?  Either way, liked how the chapter president completely wrote it off as non-frat.

[pissclams]

http://gawker.com/frat-bros-smile-pretty-after-allegedly-beating-man-wit-1738062751

Why did they feel the need to keep reiterating that those were the real names of everyone?  Either way, liked how the chapter president completely wrote it off as non-frat.

because gawker writers are a bunch of cunts

[Mrs. Gooch]

http://gawker.com/frat-bros-smile-pretty-after-allegedly-beating-man-wit-1738062751

Why did they feel the need to keep reiterating that those were the real names of everyone?  Either way, liked how the chapter president completely wrote it off as non-frat.

Well that one didn't act very much like a Christian Guy. 

[star seed 7]

http://gawker.com/frat-bros-smile-pretty-after-allegedly-beating-man-wit-1738062751

Why did they feel the need to keep reiterating that those were the real names of everyone?  Either way, liked how the chapter president completely wrote it off as non-frat.

because gawker writers are a bunch of cunts

Perfectly worded

[lopakman]

If I was in college now I don't know if I'd join a fraternity.  I think it's sad that the heads of national fraternities are telling new members to do as we say not as we did.  Now I understand certain things often were taken too far but good grief what is this with initiating new members in like 3 weeks?  I personally felt I grew up a lot during pledgeship due to having structure for the first time in my life.  I honestly needed it and when I/we got initiated it felt like I/we earned something because I/we spent an entire semester getting hazed pretty badly.  Now it's hey wanna join our fraternity?  Okay, say this oath and you're in.   

Also dry houses? 

[star seed 7]

What is "hazed pretty badly"?

[MakeItRain]

If I was in college now I don't know if I'd join a fraternity.  I think it's sad that the heads of national fraternities are telling new members to do as we say not as we did.  Now I understand certain things often were taken too far but good grief what is this with initiating new members in like 3 weeks?  I personally felt I grew up a lot during pledgeship due to having structure for the first time in my life.  I honestly needed it and when I/we got initiated it felt like I/we earned something because I/we spent an entire semester getting hazed pretty badly.  Now it's hey wanna join our fraternity?  Okay, say this oath and you're in.   

Also dry houses? 

I've never understood people willingly getting hazed, are most people just that weak willed?

[lopakman]

Not gonna go into that but I'll tell you a few rules we had to follow which helped me tremendously.

Up by 8:00 am Mon-Fri.  (kept me from staying up to late and sleeping through class)
Mandatory study hours 9-11 am and 7-10 pm Sun-Thurs (GPA 3.4 my freshman semester)
No skipping classes/get caught skipping class you get a strike.  Three strikes you don't get initiated (see above GPA 3.4 my freshman semester)
No alcohol Sun-Thurs (again kept me from skipping class and flunking out)
House Duties/cleaning/etc (fixing stuff, doing house projects helped me learn to take pride in what I was doing and gave me some structure I felt)
Only allowed to go home for the weekend three times pledge semester. (taught me can't just run home when things get tough)

One rule that sucked and may now fall under the definition of hazing but didn't when I was in college.

6:00 am worksession cleaning house every Saturday morning.  Although sometimes as soon as worksession was over usually around 8:00 am we'd head down to the Lou and do some morning drinking. 


Pledgeship was one semester and then one month second semester and then Hell Week.  For me it was a small price to pay for what I felt I learned and gained from the experience.  I think you can have a great college experience without being in a Fraternity or a Sorority and I'm sure you and many here did.  For me joining a Fraternity was something I always knew I wanted to do and for me it didn't disappoint.

Now the hazing, oh man do I have some stories  and 

[star seed 7]

You can't just list all the structure good stuff and leave out all the stuff that got shoved up your butt

[lopakman]

If I was in college now I don't know if I'd join a fraternity.  I think it's sad that the heads of national fraternities are telling new members to do as we say not as we did.  Now I understand certain things often were taken too far but good grief what is this with initiating new members in like 3 weeks?  I personally felt I grew up a lot during pledgeship due to having structure for the first time in my life.  I honestly needed it and when I/we got initiated it felt like I/we earned something because I/we spent an entire semester getting hazed pretty badly.  Now it's hey wanna join our fraternity?  Okay, say this oath and you're in.   

Also dry houses? 

I've never understood people willingly getting hazed, are most people just that weak willed?

I don't associate being hazed with being weak willed.  In fact I find there are many pros to it such as bringing a group of people closer, weeding out people who don’t want to take the process seriously, teaches humility, promotes discipline and a sense of shared pride.  And ask anyone here who in a Fraternity which hazed and they'll tel you looking back at it you just laugh and it makes for some great stories when you get together with your pledge bros.

And lets be honest there was no beatings, and no one was forced to do crap like the elephant walk or eff sheep.   

[lopakman]

You can't just list all the structure good stuff and leave out all the stuff that got shoved up your butt

That only occured at Sigma Phi Epsilon (Daris' fraternity) 

[meow meow]

those stories sound super hilarious and disgusting

[mocat]

You can't just list all the structure good stuff and leave out all the stuff that got shoved up your butt

That only occured at Sigma Phi Epsilon (Daris' fraternity)

coming strong with the derp

[Dugout DickStone]

If I was in college now I don't know if I'd join a fraternity.  I think it's sad that the heads of national fraternities are telling new members to do as we say not as we did.  Now I understand certain things often were taken too far but good grief what is this with initiating new members in like 3 weeks?  I personally felt I grew up a lot during pledgeship due to having structure for the first time in my life.  I honestly needed it and when I/we got initiated it felt like I/we earned something because I/we spent an entire semester getting hazed pretty badly.  Now it's hey wanna join our fraternity?  Okay, say this oath and you're in.   

Also dry houses? 

I enjoyed having my face hazed off.

[stunted]

If I was in college now I don't know if I'd join a fraternity.  I think it's sad that the heads of national fraternities are telling new members to do as we say not as we did.  Now I understand certain things often were taken too far but good grief what is this with initiating new members in like 3 weeks?  I personally felt I grew up a lot during pledgeship due to having structure for the first time in my life.  I honestly needed it and when I/we got initiated it felt like I/we earned something because I/we spent an entire semester getting hazed pretty badly.  Now it's hey wanna join our fraternity?  Okay, say this oath and you're in.   

Also dry houses? 

I've never understood people willingly getting hazed, are most people just that weak willed?

I don't associate being hazed with being weak willed.  In fact I find there are many pros to it such as bringing a group of people closer, weeding out people who don’t want to take the process seriously, teaches humility, promotes discipline and a sense of shared pride.  And ask anyone here who in a Fraternity which hazed and they'll tel you looking back at it you just laugh and it makes for some great stories when you get together with your pledge bros.

And lets be honest there was no beatings, and no one was forced to do crap like the elephant walk or eff sheep.

i was a pledge almost 10 years ago, and everyone took making sure all that didn't happen very seriously. given how ridiculously sensitive everyone is now, there's no way it has gotten worse, and anything you hear is going to be an outlier. still, fraternities are going to be the most polarizing group, cause more people are yoloing. which is way better than everyone being a square, unless you are a huge square (mir).

[hemmy]

seriously though, homecoming is mostly just a greek thing.

[lopakman]

seriously though, homecoming is mostly just a greek thing.

I would say greeks were generally more involved in homecoming activities i.e. float building, banner contest etc., but homecoming is and should be for the entire student body, faculty, alumni and fans.

[lopakman]

If I was in college now I don't know if I'd join a fraternity.  I think it's sad that the heads of national fraternities are telling new members to do as we say not as we did.  Now I understand certain things often were taken too far but good grief what is this with initiating new members in like 3 weeks?  I personally felt I grew up a lot during pledgeship due to having structure for the first time in my life.  I honestly needed it and when I/we got initiated it felt like I/we earned something because I/we spent an entire semester getting hazed pretty badly.  Now it's hey wanna join our fraternity?  Okay, say this oath and you're in.   

Also dry houses? 

I enjoyed having my face hazed off.

ikr and how great was it that after only one semester you got to spend the next three and a half years having all your meals prepared for you and then cleaned up after, your house cleaned for you, always having a designated driver and my fav part, human alarm clocks because pledges are way more reliable then those cheap alarm clocks you get at Walmart.

[420seriouscat69]

I don't know if I'd know how to adjust to the real world after that.

[Emo EMAW]

In retrospect, I certainly enjoyed being hazed more than I did doing the hazing myself.  Not that I really took part in it very much.

[meow meow]

If I was in college now I don't know if I'd join a fraternity.  I think it's sad that the heads of national fraternities are telling new members to do as we say not as we did.  Now I understand certain things often were taken too far but good grief what is this with initiating new members in like 3 weeks?  I personally felt I grew up a lot during pledgeship due to having structure for the first time in my life.  I honestly needed it and when I/we got initiated it felt like I/we earned something because I/we spent an entire semester getting hazed pretty badly.  Now it's hey wanna join our fraternity?  Okay, say this oath and you're in.   

Also dry houses? 

I enjoyed having my face hazed off.

ikr and how great was it that after only one semester you got to spend the next three and a half years having all your meals prepared for you and then cleaned up after, your house cleaned for you, always having a designated driver and my fav part, human alarm clocks because pledges are way more reliable then those cheap alarm clocks you get at Walmart.

sounds just like living at home with mom and dad! 

[420seriouscat69]

I don't know if I'd know how to adjust to the real world after that.

This was me when I didn't have press passes anymore and I had to start paying to get into games.