best players in big xii history

[Skipper44]

All time teams from big 12 schools would be fun too

G - Denis Clemente (really could be switched with Angel depending on what you favor)
G - Jacob Pullen
G - Rodney McGruder
F - Bill Walker
F - Michael Beasley

F - Cartier Martin
F- Jerimiah Massey
G - Angel Rodriguez
F - Dom Sutton
F - Curtis Kelly (wins out over Gip, Jamar and Hoskins dude to blocking ablility).

KSU's bench forwards were tough to choose. You could make an argument for Sutton starting along with Denis, Pullen, Mike and Bill. It would give them an excellent defender and add some scoring to the second unit with McGruder dropping down.

I like this squad but I drop Dom and add JO, if only for all the DOBs running pick and roll with Angel.  Angel is clearly the starter at point on defense alone btw.

[_33]

All time teams from big 12 schools would be fun too

G - Denis Clemente (really could be switched with Angel depending on what you favor)
G - Jacob Pullen
G - Rodney McGruder
F - Bill Walker
F - Michael Beasley

F - Cartier Martin
F- Jerimiah Massey
G - Angel Rodriguez
F - Dom Sutton
F - Curtis Kelly (wins out over Gip, Jamar and Hoskins dude to blocking ablility).

KSU's bench forwards were tough to choose. You could make an argument for Sutton starting along with Denis, Pullen, Mike and Bill. It would give them an excellent defender and add some scoring to the second unit with McGruder dropping down.

I like this squad but I drop Dom and add JO, if only for all the DOBs running pick and roll with Angel.  Angel is clearly the starter at point on defense alone btw.

Angel is not starting over Denis.  Do you guys not remember how awesome Denis was?  Denis transition heat-check 3's were one of the greatest things that ever happened to K-State basketball.

[CHONGS]

All time teams from big 12 schools would be fun too

G - Denis Clemente (really could be switched with Angel depending on what you favor)
G - Jacob Pullen
G - Rodney McGruder
F - Bill Walker
F - Michael Beasley

F - Cartier Martin
F- Jerimiah Massey
G - Angel Rodriguez
F - Dom Sutton
F - Curtis Kelly (wins out over Gip, Jamar and Hoskins dude to blocking ablility).

KSU's bench forwards were tough to choose. You could make an argument for Sutton starting along with Denis, Pullen, Mike and Bill. It would give them an excellent defender and add some scoring to the second unit with McGruder dropping down.

I like this squad but I drop Dom and add JO, if only for all the DOBs running pick and roll with Angel.  Angel is clearly the starter at point on defense alone btw.

Angel is not starting over Denis.  Do you guys not remember how awesome Denis was?  Denis transition heat-check 3's were one of the greatest things that ever happened to K-State basketball.

Sadly most have forgot, or never liked him in the first place.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

My fav pg will always be Larry Reid. DeJesus was a great shooter.

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All time teams from big 12 schools would be fun too

G - Denis Clemente (really could be switched with Angel depending on what you favor)
G - Jacob Pullen
G - Rodney McGruder
F - Bill Walker
F - Michael Beasley

F - Cartier Martin
F- Jerimiah Massey
G - Angel Rodriguez
F - Dom Sutton
F - Curtis Kelly (wins out over Gip, Jamar and Hoskins dude to blocking ablility).

KSU's bench forwards were tough to choose. You could make an argument for Sutton starting along with Denis, Pullen, Mike and Bill. It would give them an excellent defender and add some scoring to the second unit with McGruder dropping down.

I like this squad but I drop Dom and add JO, if only for all the DOBs running pick and roll with Angel.  Angel is clearly the starter at point on defense alone btw.

Angel is not starting over Denis.  Do you guys not remember how awesome Denis was?  Denis transition heat-check 3's were one of the greatest things that ever happened to K-State basketball.

Sadly most have forgot, or never liked him in the first place.

This makes me want to spend the rest of the day searching the ksufans archives for Denis haters and out them.

[steve dave]

Do it 33!

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So far I have 3 posters ready to be outed as Denis haters:

dubnation
dobbie4ksu
RLCoach

[Mr Bread]

They could be dead for all we know. 

[nicname]

All time teams from big 12 schools would be fun too

G - Denis Clemente (really could be switched with Angel depending on what you favor)
G - Jacob Pullen
G - Rodney McGruder
F - Bill Walker
F - Michael Beasley

F - Cartier Martin
F- Jerimiah Massey
G - Angel Rodriguez
F - Dom Sutton
F - Curtis Kelly (wins out over Gip, Jamar and Hoskins dude to blocking ablility).

KSU's bench forwards were tough to choose. You could make an argument for Sutton starting along with Denis, Pullen, Mike and Bill. It would give them an excellent defender and add some scoring to the second unit with McGruder dropping down.

I like this squad but I drop Dom and add JO, if only for all the DOBs running pick and roll with Angel.  Angel is clearly the starter at point on defense alone btw.

JO would be a great addition. Great back-line help as well. Still plenty of back-court defenders left on this stud team even without Dom (who could guard both).

[nicname]

All time teams from big 12 schools would be fun too

G - Denis Clemente (really could be switched with Angel depending on what you favor)
G - Jacob Pullen
G - Rodney McGruder
F - Bill Walker
F - Michael Beasley

F - Cartier Martin
F- Jerimiah Massey
G - Angel Rodriguez
F - Dom Sutton
F - Curtis Kelly (wins out over Gip, Jamar and Hoskins dude to blocking ablility).

KSU's bench forwards were tough to choose. You could make an argument for Sutton starting along with Denis, Pullen, Mike and Bill. It would give them an excellent defender and add some scoring to the second unit with McGruder dropping down.

I like this squad but I drop Dom and add JO, if only for all the DOBs running pick and roll with Angel.  Angel is clearly the starter at point on defense alone btw.

Angel is not starting over Denis.  Do you guys not remember how awesome Denis was?  Denis transition heat-check 3's were one of the greatest things that ever happened to K-State basketball.

Sadly most have forgot, or never liked him in the first place.

This makes me want to spend the rest of the day searching the ksufans archives for Denis haters and out them.

FWIW, I loved Denis, and watching him run with these thoroughbreds would be a treat. The main reason I mentioned a possible switch with Angel is for ball distribution in the half-court. Both were Second-team All-Big 12, but Denis played in a tougher Big 12 imo.

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sonofdaxjones (claimed multiple times not to hate "Denny" and then proceeded to talk about everything he didn't like about him, namely bad shots, turnovers, and Frank never yelling at him)

[nicname]

Angel haters are/ were pretty intense, especially after he left. I can't imagine of Denis had played at KSU for two years (with his production) then transferred to Miami. It would have been disgusting.

[mocat]

Frank never yelling at him

 

[Skipper44]

Frank never yelling at him

 

I always suspected Frank said really mean crap to DC in matter-of-fact spanish

[kso_FAN]

Angel over Denis is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this blog.

[Skipper44]

Angel over Denis is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this blog.

we are arguing about who is the best at basketball, right?

[nicname]

Angel over Denis is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this blog.

Damn, that hurts. And I wasn't even advocating that Angel was better than Denis. Just that it was a possibility he could play with a hypothetical starting unit of great Big-12 Cats.

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go to the archives and search "denny".  It is a treasure trove of denis hating led by dax.

[kso_FAN]

I mean, I agree with sd here. Angel is/was very good.

But Denis was fun to watch as well as Big 12 Newcomer of the Year and 2 time 2nd teamer.

Denis could not be switched for angel no matter what you favor. JFC

And I love angel

[oodfan]

So this is now just a name-drop thread. I just realized Nebraska has had two Cookies. What are the odds of that?

That's what I thought. How are we coming on digging up a big 12 player named Christmas

Hmm, doesn't appear to be one (or at least not a talented one) 
http://www.collegehoopsdaily.com/the-3-best-college-basketball-players-from-the-past-decade-named-christmas/

[kso_FAN]

I'm guessing he must have gotten someone mixed up with the Syracuse kid, Rakeem Christmas.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I'm guessing he must have gotten someone mixed up with the Syracuse kid, Rakeem Christmas.

Didn't one of the Philly schools (temple?) have a Christmas?

[pissclams]

So far I have 3 posters ready to be outed as Denis haters:

dubnation
dobbie4ksu
RLCoach

i didn't hate him, i saw him for what he was-  a barely above average player

[_33]

Denis's theme song should be:  "I suck"  by Denis Clemente

[_33]

Denis's theme song could also be "I shot the sheriff, and every single time I got the ball my senior year" by Denis Clemente and the Wailers (the rest of our sh*tty shooters).