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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6000 on: August 19, 2010, 07:07:11 PM »
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@oramb: CONFIRMED: Utah State DECLINED #MWC invitation yesterday.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6001 on: August 19, 2010, 07:29:46 PM »
Yup, they're gone.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5474774

If Texas State doesn't get a 1-A invite out of this, I'm going to go jump off the top of the KSU Union Parking Garage :runaway:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6002 on: August 19, 2010, 07:35:43 PM »
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According to SLTTribune, Utah State AD says it turned down MWC because of $5 mil binding agreement. wow loyalty

So, MWC is obv. inviting everyone  :surprised:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6003 on: August 19, 2010, 07:36:32 PM »
BUT WAIT!

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A source at USU just told me the door to the MWC is not completely closed to USU, calling it 'ajar' but a very complex situation.

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« Reply #6004 on: August 19, 2010, 07:39:20 PM »
BUT WAIT!

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A source at USU just told me the door to the MWC is not completely closed to USU, calling it 'ajar' but a very complex situation.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6005 on: August 19, 2010, 09:11:59 PM »
I'll put the odds that TCU gets an invite to the Big 12 at better than 50%.

They have more financial horsepower than all but 1 or 2 Big 12 schools.    They raised all $105 million to renovate their stadium from 31 private donors.   They were in the CWS this year, they have played in a BCS bowl, their athletic budget is equal to at least 3 Big 12 schools.     

You might say they don't increase the TV footprint, but clearly they don't hurt it either.   They have significant corporate sponsorship tie-ins   They're right down the road from the Big 12 offices.   

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« Reply #6006 on: August 19, 2010, 09:18:52 PM »
I'll put the odds that TCU gets an invite to the Big 12 at better than 50%.

They have more financial horsepower than all but 1 or 2 Big 12 schools.    They raised all $105 million to renovate their stadium from 31 private donors.   They were in the CWS this year, they have played in a BCS bowl, their athletic budget is equal to at least 3 Big 12 schools.     

You might say they don't increase the TV footprint, but clearly they don't hurt it either.   They have significant corporate sponsorship tie-ins   They're right down the road from the Big 12 offices.   

That is all well and good, but does UT (and to a lesser extent ATM) want TCU in their conference?  My guess is no.


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6007 on: August 19, 2010, 09:21:20 PM »
I'll put the odds that TCU gets an invite to the Big 12 at better than 50%.

They have more financial horsepower than all but 1 or 2 Big 12 schools.    They raised all $105 million to renovate their stadium from 31 private donors.   They were in the CWS this year, they have played in a BCS bowl, their athletic budget is equal to at least 3 Big 12 schools.     

You might say they don't increase the TV footprint, but clearly they don't hurt it either.   They have significant corporate sponsorship tie-ins   They're right down the road from the Big 12 offices.   

That is all well and good, but does UT (and to a lesser extent ATM) want TCU in their conference?  My guess is no.



I don't think they do.  Between that, and the lack of increased TV revenue from adding TCU, and I think there's basically no chance for the Frogs.

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« Reply #6008 on: August 19, 2010, 09:31:00 PM »
The thing about college football in Texas is that there's a stratified class system going on in every circle of the sport all the way down to Division 2. Texas looks down on A&M, who looks down on Tech, who looks down on Baylor, who looks down on TCU (only because they're in the MWC), who looks down on the C-USA castaways (UH, Rice, SMU, UTEP), who look down on North Texas, who looks down on Texas State and UTSA, who look down on Sam Houston State, who looks down on Lamar, who looks down on Stephen F. Austin, who looks down on Abilene Christian and Tarleton State. However, it goes beyond just rivalries...NOBODY wants anyone to move up to a better conference except for the institutions themselves, and people will fight tooth and nail to keep their "inferiors" off of their turf. The only way to change those perceptions is if there's a shitload of money in it for the "higher" team. It's this way across the country (hello, TheShocker), the only reason Texas is different is because there's a lot more teams at the 1-a and 1-aa levels jockeying for position.

So basically, unless there's a significant money boost in it for Texas (and A&M to a MUCH lesser extent), TCU won't be invited. About the only way I see them getting an invite is for BYU to get an offer and accept it, and then Beebe Texas decides the Dr. Pepper should be revived.

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« Reply #6009 on: August 19, 2010, 09:40:34 PM »
The thing about college football in Texas is that there's a stratified class system going on in every circle of the sport all the way down to Division 2. Texas looks down on A&M, who looks down on Tech, who looks down on Baylor, who looks down on TCU (only because they're in the MWC), who looks down on the C-USA castaways (UH, Rice, SMU, UTEP), who look down on North Texas, who looks down on Texas State and UTSA, who look down on Sam Houston State, who looks down on Lamar, who looks down on Stephen F. Austin, who looks down on Abilene Christian and Tarleton State. However, it goes beyond just rivalries...NOBODY wants anyone to move up to a better conference except for the institutions themselves, and people will fight tooth and nail to keep their "inferiors" off of their turf. The only way to change those perceptions is if there's a shitload of money in it for the "higher" team. It's this way across the country (hello, TheShocker), the only reason Texas is different is because there's a lot more teams at the 1-a and 1-aa levels jockeying for position.

So basically, unless there's a significant money boost in it for Texas (and A&M to a MUCH lesser extent), TCU won't be invited. About the only way I see them getting an invite is for BYU to get an offer and accept it, and then Beebe Texas decides the Dr. Pepper should be revived.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6010 on: August 20, 2010, 01:11:57 PM »
The thing about college football in Texas is that there's a stratified class system going on in every circle of the sport all the way down to Division 2. Texas looks down on A&M, who looks down on Tech, who looks down on Baylor, who looks down on TCU (only because they're in the MWC), who looks down on the C-USA castaways (UH, Rice, SMU, UTEP), who look down on North Texas, who looks down on Texas State and UTSA, who look down on Sam Houston State, who looks down on Lamar, who looks down on Stephen F. Austin, who looks down on Abilene Christian and Tarleton State. However, it goes beyond just rivalries...NOBODY wants anyone to move up to a better conference except for the institutions themselves, and people will fight tooth and nail to keep their "inferiors" off of their turf. The only way to change those perceptions is if there's a shitload of money in it for the "higher" team. It's this way across the country (hello, TheShocker), the only reason Texas is different is because there's a lot more teams at the 1-a and 1-aa levels jockeying for position.

So basically, unless there's a significant money boost in it for Texas (and A&M to a MUCH lesser extent), TCU won't be invited. About the only way I see them getting an invite is for BYU to get an offer and accept it, and then Beebe Texas decides the Dr. Pepper should be revived.

Yeah, legitimizing TCU is absolutely counter to the interests of Texas, aTm (the only two that really matter), Tech and Baylor.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6011 on: August 20, 2010, 01:37:00 PM »
The thing about college football in Texas is that there's a stratified class system going on in every circle of the sport all the way down to Division 2. Texas looks down on A&M, who looks down on Tech, who looks down on Baylor, who looks down on TCU (only because they're in the MWC), who looks down on the C-USA castaways (UH, Rice, SMU, UTEP), who look down on North Texas, who looks down on Texas State and UTSA, who look down on Sam Houston State, who looks down on Lamar, who looks down on Stephen F. Austin, who looks down on Abilene Christian and Tarleton State. However, it goes beyond just rivalries...NOBODY wants anyone to move up to a better conference except for the institutions themselves, and people will fight tooth and nail to keep their "inferiors" off of their turf. The only way to change those perceptions is if there's a shitload of money in it for the "higher" team. It's this way across the country (hello, TheShocker), the only reason Texas is different is because there's a lot more teams at the 1-a and 1-aa levels jockeying for position.

So basically, unless there's a significant money boost in it for Texas (and A&M to a MUCH lesser extent), TCU won't be invited. About the only way I see them getting an invite is for BYU to get an offer and accept it, and then Beebe Texas decides the Dr. Pepper should be revived.


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Grumblings.....CU to PAC10 not a done deal
« Reply #6012 on: August 20, 2010, 04:17:25 PM »
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Scott’s original idea was to entice Texas to bolt from the Big 12 and lead other Texas and Oklahoma schools into a separate wing of what would be the “Pac-16.” But, Texas had no incentive to leave the Big 12. It was only using the Pac-10 as a bargaining tool with the Big 12.

Now, the Pac-10 is left with the worst of two worlds. Adding Utah and Colorado will do nothing to enhance its TV viability. Figuring added travel costs, “It may be a net loss,” Young said.

The chancellors and presidents still have to give final approval. Let’s hope they stop this freight train in its tracks.

Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/Dickey-Latest-additions-to-Pac-10-Conference-not-all-positive-101138474.html#ixzz0xBPhKfEu

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Re: Grumblings.....CU to PAC10 not a done deal
« Reply #6013 on: August 20, 2010, 04:20:37 PM »
Mods, please move to the "smoke your cigars" thread.

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Re: Grumblings.....CU to PAC10 not a done deal
« Reply #6014 on: August 20, 2010, 04:21:37 PM »
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Scott’s original idea was to entice Texas to bolt from the Big 12 and lead other Texas and Oklahoma schools into a separate wing of what would be the “Pac-16.” But, Texas had no incentive to leave the Big 12. It was only using the Pac-10 as a bargaining tool with the Big 12.

Now, the Pac-10 is left with the worst of two worlds. Adding Utah and Colorado will do nothing to enhance its TV viability. Figuring added travel costs, “It may be a net loss,” Young said.

The chancellors and presidents still have to give final approval. Let’s hope they stop this freight train in its tracks.

Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/Dickey-Latest-additions-to-Pac-10-Conference-not-all-positive-101138474.html#ixzz0xBPhKfEu

Rumblings...big news to come from the MWC.

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« Reply #6015 on: August 20, 2010, 04:30:46 PM »
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Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Iowa State, Colorado, Missouri and Kansas State had discussions Learfield Sports, a Plano, Texas-based company that manages the multimedia rights for more than 50 universities nationwide.

Okay, who invited Colorado?

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« Reply #6016 on: August 20, 2010, 04:37:27 PM »
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Eight Big 12 athletic directors met with a media rights holder Friday morning to discuss forming their own cable network.

Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Iowa State, Colorado, Missouri and Kansas State had discussions Learfield Sports, a Plano, Texas-based company that manages the multimedia rights for more than 50 universities nationwide.

Okay, who invited Colorado?

No KU?

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6017 on: August 20, 2010, 04:40:58 PM »
Lew can't be bothered with insignificant things like this....

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« Reply #6018 on: August 20, 2010, 04:42:24 PM »
Lew can't be bothered with insignificant things like this....

Lew is 60+ years old.  He doesn't even remember that this was a topic earlier this summer.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6020 on: August 20, 2010, 10:55:06 PM »
Lew can't be bothered with insignificant things like this....

pretty sure lilttle bro will make us take them with us.  Ugh, hate being ku's caretaker sometimes

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« Reply #6021 on: August 21, 2010, 02:15:51 AM »
Lew can't be bothered with insignificant things like this....

pretty sure lilttle bro will make us take them with us.  Ugh, hate being ku's caretaker sometimes

Fuckers are always trying to burn us to the ground.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6023 on: August 24, 2010, 03:22:22 PM »
CU is on the Dave Ramsey plan for conference realignment.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #6024 on: August 24, 2010, 03:22:28 PM »
Grumblings that CU will get dissed by Pac-10 and un-invited.

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