Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[steve dave]

gkketch
 
Moral of the story this weekend for Aggies - Damned if they don't and really damned if they do.

[wabash909]

Lykins is a treasure trove of amateur hour goodness. 

Trust.....................(..KU & KSU)

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the reason we will come out of this Conf problem with positive results is because KU & KSU are working together .....the future for KU & KSU will be stronger because both schools are fighting the conf battle as a team..

Re: Trust.....................(..KU & KSU)

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If you trust the administration at KU, I've got a hot tip on some Enron stock for you

[slimz]

1% of me still thinking that some entities inside the corridors of the Big 12 South Titans don't want to move at all.    IF the BCS system gets scrapped and they go to a playoff, you still need to have won games, think about seeding, easier path to automatic qualification etc. etc. etc.    

Going over to the SEC for example makes that road all that much harder.    If you're OU and Texas why wouldn't you want to stand pat in the Big 12 (or 10) where you know the lay of the land, can rule the land, still have an auto bid, will not have increased travel costs, will play all your conference games in the Central time zone . . . and in the case of Texas have been told again and again that you can have your own TV network.    

LOL at A&M, sorry guys, but according to the WWL, the SEC wants OU and Texas  . . . geez Aggie Cult, you think it's hard in the Big 12??  Wait until you become Arkansas Jr. over in the SEC, praying for that game against Vandy.   If there's one school in the Big 12 South that has an over inflated opinion of themselves athletically it's the Collie Cult of College Station.  Plus, you'll be out there talking up the SEC to all the Texas recruits and boom . . . here comes LSU, Arkansas, Alabama and Auburn recruiting the $Hit out of Texas and kids listening because hell, A&M was just here and they sold them on how awesome the SEC is.

Something I read yesterday (maybe on this thread) said that the Big 12 south ADs, including Dodds and Byrne, don't really want to go Pac 10, but the president/chancellors of aTm and Texas are really the driving force behind leaving the Big 12.

[steve dave]

gkketch
 
That's quite a corner.
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gkketch
If they do go, they'll be damned even more by all of their old friends and rivals - alone on an island in-state. Forever isolated.
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gkketch
If the Aggies don't go, some of their fans will damn them for blinking in their one chance to pull away from UT's shadow.

[steve dave]

gkketch
 
It's pretty fluid. Every day it seems to flip flop. RT @tko27 Where does Utah stand now?

[sonofdaxjones]

The way I feel right now is that a lot of these schools are going to look back at this in a few years, you know . . . after all the blow is gone, the hookers have gone home, the Cristal bottles lie empty . . . and they'll realize they're in conferences where they don't have any power, the Washington State game kicks off at 10:30 pm local time, and they don't win nearly as often as they used to, and the fan bases are all pissed off that the trophy cases are getting dusty.

Plus if you think I am going to let the previous administration at K-State's complete and utter failure to prepare for this day go . . . well you're wrong. 

[SleepFighter]

1% of me still thinking that some entities inside the corridors of the Big 12 South Titans don't want to move at all.    IF the BCS system gets scrapped and they go to a playoff, you still need to have won games, think about seeding, easier path to automatic qualification etc. etc. etc.    

Going over to the SEC for example makes that road all that much harder.    If you're OU and Texas why wouldn't you want to stand pat in the Big 12 (or 10) where you know the lay of the land, can rule the land, still have an auto bid, will not have increased travel costs, will play all your conference games in the Central time zone . . . and in the case of Texas have been told again and again that you can have your own TV network.    

LOL at A&M, sorry guys, but according to the WWL, the SEC wants OU and Texas  . . . geez Aggie Cult, you think it's hard in the Big 12??  Wait until you become Arkansas Jr. over in the SEC, praying for that game against Vandy.   If there's one school in the Big 12 South that has an over inflated opinion of themselves athletically it's the Collie Cult of College Station.  Plus, you'll be out there talking up the SEC to all the Texas recruits and boom . . . here comes LSU, Arkansas, Alabama and Auburn recruiting the $Hit out of Texas and kids listening because hell, A&M was just here and they sold them on how awesome the SEC is.

Something I read yesterday (maybe on this thread) said that the Big 12 south ADs, including Dodds and Byrne, don't really want to go Pac 10, but the president/chancellors of aTm and Texas are really the driving force behind leaving the Big 12.

Which seems totally backwards.  Shouldn't the eggheads all be worried about 20 hour bus rides and golfers missing their physics for poets labs?

[sonofdaxjones]

1% of me still thinking that some entities inside the corridors of the Big 12 South Titans don't want to move at all.    IF the BCS system gets scrapped and they go to a playoff, you still need to have won games, think about seeding, easier path to automatic qualification etc. etc. etc.    

Going over to the SEC for example makes that road all that much harder.    If you're OU and Texas why wouldn't you want to stand pat in the Big 12 (or 10) where you know the lay of the land, can rule the land, still have an auto bid, will not have increased travel costs, will play all your conference games in the Central time zone . . . and in the case of Texas have been told again and again that you can have your own TV network.    

LOL at A&M, sorry guys, but according to the WWL, the SEC wants OU and Texas  . . . geez Aggie Cult, you think it's hard in the Big 12??  Wait until you become Arkansas Jr. over in the SEC, praying for that game against Vandy.   If there's one school in the Big 12 South that has an over inflated opinion of themselves athletically it's the Collie Cult of College Station.  Plus, you'll be out there talking up the SEC to all the Texas recruits and boom . . . here comes LSU, Arkansas, Alabama and Auburn recruiting the $Hit out of Texas and kids listening because hell, A&M was just here and they sold them on how awesome the SEC is.

Something I read yesterday (maybe on this thread) said that the Big 12 south ADs, including Dodds and Byrne, don't really want to go Pac 10, but the president/chancellors of aTm and Texas are really the driving force behind leaving the Big 12.

Which seems totally backwards.  Shouldn't the eggheads all be worried about 20 hour bus rides and golfers missing their physics for poets labs?

The Academic Affiliation BS is just air cover for the school Presidents to keep the Academic "why do we have athletics anyway" Wonks on campus at bay . . . they don't believe that stuff, and they know it has nothing to do with academics.

[Pete]

I didn't see this posted, but Memphis is throwing around some serious rumors about paying big money to get into a BCS conference.

FedEx CEO Fred Smith has spoken to various conference officials and made it known that his Memphis-based company could provide millions of dollars -- perhaps as much as $10 million annually -- to a BCS-affiliated league willing to offer an invitation to the University of Memphis, multiple sources close to the Memphis program have told CBSSports.com.
   

"It could be $10 million every year for a conference to use however it sees fit," said one of the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "When you think of the big picture, it could be the equivalent of a five-year, $50 million contract or a 10-year, $100-million contract. Fred is talking about a massive amount of money."

http://www.cbssports.com/general/story/13515726/fedex-ceo-could-provide-millions-if-bcsaffiliated-league-takes-memphis?tag=headlines;other

[steve dave]

BloomOnHoops
 
Judgement Day in Aggieland. Aggies should give the Pac 10 one more listen, then thank them for their time and join the SEC... but will they?

[sonofdaxjones]

I didn't see this posted, but Memphis is throwing around some serious rumors about paying big money to get into a BCS conference.

FedEx CEO Fred Smith has spoken to various conference officials and made it known that his Memphis-based company could provide millions of dollars -- perhaps as much as $10 million annually -- to a BCS-affiliated league willing to offer an invitation to the University of Memphis, multiple sources close to the Memphis program have told CBSSports.com.
   

"It could be $10 million every year for a conference to use however it sees fit," said one of the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "When you think of the big picture, it could be the equivalent of a five-year, $50 million contract or a 10-year, $100-million contract. Fred is talking about a massive amount of money."

http://www.cbssports.com/general/story/13515726/fedex-ceo-could-provide-millions-if-bcsaffiliated-league-takes-memphis?tag=headlines;other

Can't wait until this happens and then some school president gets up and says it was about "academic fit" . . . lol what a bunch of disingenuous choads.

[iCat Pro]

ChipBrownOB
 
RT @darrenrovell1: Truth is only UT's network would work. .. RT @ChipBrownOB Beebe telling B12 they can earn $17M per AND have own networks

Fine with me.  Hell, I'll even buy whatever sports premium package DirecTV would sell the UT network on.  

[SleepFighter]

1% of me still thinking that some entities inside the corridors of the Big 12 South Titans don't want to move at all.    IF the BCS system gets scrapped and they go to a playoff, you still need to have won games, think about seeding, easier path to automatic qualification etc. etc. etc.    

Going over to the SEC for example makes that road all that much harder.    If you're OU and Texas why wouldn't you want to stand pat in the Big 12 (or 10) where you know the lay of the land, can rule the land, still have an auto bid, will not have increased travel costs, will play all your conference games in the Central time zone . . . and in the case of Texas have been told again and again that you can have your own TV network.    

LOL at A&M, sorry guys, but according to the WWL, the SEC wants OU and Texas  . . . geez Aggie Cult, you think it's hard in the Big 12??  Wait until you become Arkansas Jr. over in the SEC, praying for that game against Vandy.   If there's one school in the Big 12 South that has an over inflated opinion of themselves athletically it's the Collie Cult of College Station.  Plus, you'll be out there talking up the SEC to all the Texas recruits and boom . . . here comes LSU, Arkansas, Alabama and Auburn recruiting the $Hit out of Texas and kids listening because hell, A&M was just here and they sold them on how awesome the SEC is.

Something I read yesterday (maybe on this thread) said that the Big 12 south ADs, including Dodds and Byrne, don't really want to go Pac 10, but the president/chancellors of aTm and Texas are really the driving force behind leaving the Big 12.

Which seems totally backwards.  Shouldn't the eggheads all be worried about 20 hour bus rides and golfers missing their physics for poets labs?

The Academic Affiliation BS is just air cover for the school Presidents to keep the Academic "why do we have athletics anyway" Wonks on campus at bay . . . they don't believe that stuff, and they know it has nothing to do with academics.

Fine, if you believe the argument that the AD's don't want to go, why don't the AD's want to go while the administrators do and more importantly...

WHY DO WE HAVE THE ONLY ONE OF THESE DORKS THAT TALKS THIS WAY!!!!  

[steve dave]

I would be totally down with adding Memphis and TCU, moving Oklahoma schools to the north and going on like nothing happened.  Not happening but it would be ideal.  We just got better in both football and basketball.  

[iCat Pro]

1% of me still thinking that some entities inside the corridors of the Big 12 South Titans don't want to move at all.    IF the BCS system gets scrapped and they go to a playoff, you still need to have won games, think about seeding, easier path to automatic qualification etc. etc. etc.    

Going over to the SEC for example makes that road all that much harder.    If you're OU and Texas why wouldn't you want to stand pat in the Big 12 (or 10) where you know the lay of the land, can rule the land, still have an auto bid, will not have increased travel costs, will play all your conference games in the Central time zone . . . and in the case of Texas have been told again and again that you can have your own TV network.    

LOL at A&M, sorry guys, but according to the WWL, the SEC wants OU and Texas  . . . geez Aggie Cult, you think it's hard in the Big 12??  Wait until you become Arkansas Jr. over in the SEC, praying for that game against Vandy.   If there's one school in the Big 12 South that has an over inflated opinion of themselves athletically it's the Collie Cult of College Station.  Plus, you'll be out there talking up the SEC to all the Texas recruits and boom . . . here comes LSU, Arkansas, Alabama and Auburn recruiting the $Hit out of Texas and kids listening because hell, A&M was just here and they sold them on how awesome the SEC is.

You're too optimistic. 

[sonofdaxjones]

1% of me still thinking that some entities inside the corridors of the Big 12 South Titans don't want to move at all.    IF the BCS system gets scrapped and they go to a playoff, you still need to have won games, think about seeding, easier path to automatic qualification etc. etc. etc.    

Going over to the SEC for example makes that road all that much harder.    If you're OU and Texas why wouldn't you want to stand pat in the Big 12 (or 10) where you know the lay of the land, can rule the land, still have an auto bid, will not have increased travel costs, will play all your conference games in the Central time zone . . . and in the case of Texas have been told again and again that you can have your own TV network.    

LOL at A&M, sorry guys, but according to the WWL, the SEC wants OU and Texas  . . . geez Aggie Cult, you think it's hard in the Big 12??  Wait until you become Arkansas Jr. over in the SEC, praying for that game against Vandy.   If there's one school in the Big 12 South that has an over inflated opinion of themselves athletically it's the Collie Cult of College Station.  Plus, you'll be out there talking up the SEC to all the Texas recruits and boom . . . here comes LSU, Arkansas, Alabama and Auburn recruiting the $Hit out of Texas and kids listening because hell, A&M was just here and they sold them on how awesome the SEC is.

Something I read yesterday (maybe on this thread) said that the Big 12 south ADs, including Dodds and Byrne, don't really want to go Pac 10, but the president/chancellors of aTm and Texas are really the driving force behind leaving the Big 12.

Which seems totally backwards.  Shouldn't the eggheads all be worried about 20 hour bus rides and golfers missing their physics for poets labs?

The Academic Affiliation BS is just air cover for the school Presidents to keep the Academic "why do we have athletics anyway" Wonks on campus at bay . . . they don't believe that stuff, and they know it has nothing to do with academics.

Fine, if you believe the argument that the AD's don't want to go, why don't the AD's want to go while the administrators do and more importantly...

WHY DO WE HAVE THE ONLY ONE OF THESE DORKS THAT TALKS THIS WAY!!!!  

President's hire AD's . . . if you knew anything about Bill Byrne you think he is going to stand up to the A&M president and their board of directors??  

[SleepFighter]

I would be totally down with adding Memphis and TCU, moving Oklahoma schools to the north and going on like nothing happened.  Not happening but it would be ideal.  We just got better in both football and basketball.  

At this point, more than anything else, I want to go shopping at the Basketball Practice Facility store pick out something really nice, and slap down Nebraska and Colorado's AmEx and say, "It's on them".

[steve dave]

I would be totally down with adding Memphis and TCU, moving Oklahoma schools to the north and going on like nothing happened.  Not happening but it would be ideal.  We just got better in both football and basketball.  

At this point, more than anything else, I want to go shopping at the Basketball Practice Facility store pick out something really nice, and slap down Nebraska and Colorado's AmEx and say, "It's on them".

You know what would really piss off NU?  If TX stayed put and got to cash that NU check.  My god, that would be epic.  

[SleepFighter]

1% of me still thinking that some entities inside the corridors of the Big 12 South Titans don't want to move at all.    IF the BCS system gets scrapped and they go to a playoff, you still need to have won games, think about seeding, easier path to automatic qualification etc. etc. etc.    

Going over to the SEC for example makes that road all that much harder.    If you're OU and Texas why wouldn't you want to stand pat in the Big 12 (or 10) where you know the lay of the land, can rule the land, still have an auto bid, will not have increased travel costs, will play all your conference games in the Central time zone . . . and in the case of Texas have been told again and again that you can have your own TV network.    

LOL at A&M, sorry guys, but according to the WWL, the SEC wants OU and Texas  . . . geez Aggie Cult, you think it's hard in the Big 12??  Wait until you become Arkansas Jr. over in the SEC, praying for that game against Vandy.   If there's one school in the Big 12 South that has an over inflated opinion of themselves athletically it's the Collie Cult of College Station.  Plus, you'll be out there talking up the SEC to all the Texas recruits and boom . . . here comes LSU, Arkansas, Alabama and Auburn recruiting the $Hit out of Texas and kids listening because hell, A&M was just here and they sold them on how awesome the SEC is.

Something I read yesterday (maybe on this thread) said that the Big 12 south ADs, including Dodds and Byrne, don't really want to go Pac 10, but the president/chancellors of aTm and Texas are really the driving force behind leaving the Big 12.

Which seems totally backwards.  Shouldn't the eggheads all be worried about 20 hour bus rides and golfers missing their physics for poets labs?

The Academic Affiliation BS is just air cover for the school Presidents to keep the Academic "why do we have athletics anyway" Wonks on campus at bay . . . they don't believe that stuff, and they know it has nothing to do with academics.

Fine, if you believe the argument that the AD's don't want to go, why don't the AD's want to go while the administrators do and more importantly...

WHY DO WE HAVE THE ONLY ONE OF THESE DORKS THAT TALKS THIS WAY!!!!  

President's hire AD's . . . if you knew anything about Bill Byrne you think he is going to stand up to the A&M president and their board of directors??  

I understand why they aren't going to say anything to their bosses, I just don't get why administrators think movement is a good idea while AD's hypothetically think it's a bad idea.

[SleepFighter]

I would be totally down with adding Memphis and TCU, moving Oklahoma schools to the north and going on like nothing happened.  Not happening but it would be ideal.  We just got better in both football and basketball.  

At this point, more than anything else, I want to go shopping at the Basketball Practice Facility store pick out something really nice, and slap down Nebraska and Colorado's AmEx and say, "It's on them".

You know what would really piss of NU?  If TX stayed put and got to cash that NU check.  My god, that would be epic. 

You've just outlined my dream scenario.

[Dr Rick Daris]

I would be totally down with adding Memphis and TCU, moving Oklahoma schools to the north and going on like nothing happened.  Not happening but it would be ideal.  We just got better in both football and basketball.  

that would be great, but i'm getting the feeling that if the whole thing is kept together that there won't be more teams added and that we'll all just play each other every year and do away w/ the conf title game. one conference, no divisions. jmo.

[Dr Rick Daris]

I would be totally down with adding Memphis and TCU, moving Oklahoma schools to the north and going on like nothing happened.  Not happening but it would be ideal.  We just got better in both football and basketball.  

that would be great, but i'm getting the feeling that if the whole thing is kept together that there won't be more teams added and that we'll all just play each other every year and do away w/ the conf title game. one conference, no divisions. jmo.

also, thoughts on changing the website name to purplebloods.com? 

[slimz]

I would be totally down with adding Memphis and TCU, moving Oklahoma schools to the north and going on like nothing happened.  Not happening but it would be ideal.  We just got better in both football and basketball.  

At this point, more than anything else, I want to go shopping at the Basketball Practice Facility store pick out something really nice, and slap down Nebraska and Colorado's AmEx and say, "It's on them".

You know what would really piss off NU?  If TX stayed put and got to cash that NU check.  My god, that would be epic.  

If I were Texas, that's exactly what I'd be thinking about right now.

Look, you're the top athletic department in the country.  If and when you decide you want to move, any conference will be happy to have you.  You don't have to leave now or forever miss your opportunity.

So if you have the opportunity to stay in the Big 12, screw Nebraska and take a bunch of their money, have your own TV deal, make bank for a few years and run the conference even more than you did before (since Nebraska ain't here anymore), why wouldn't you do this?  It looks like this is what Dodds and a bunch of Texas legislators are starting to put together.  Heck, throw in Memphis and add their FedEx money and TV market for good measure.  It's not like they're going to cause you any problems in football.

[deputy dawg]

I would be totally down with adding Memphis and TCU, moving Oklahoma schools to the north and going on like nothing happened.  Not happening but it would be ideal.  We just got better in both football and basketball.  

At this point, more than anything else, I want to go shopping at the Basketball Practice Facility store pick out something really nice, and slap down Nebraska and Colorado's AmEx and say, "It's on them".

You know what would really piss off NU?  If TX stayed put and got to cash that NU check.  My god, that would be epic.  

All points alert to all area drug stores in Lincoln:  Increase inventory on adult Depends for Tom Osborne.  

[sonofdaxjones]

Yes . . . watching Harvey having to sign that check would almost be like standing on the bridge of the USS Missouri when Japan surrendered.