Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[TheHamburglar]

If the BigTen tells them no again, that’s even better for us. It’s a possible win/win. Either they go BigTen & we probably get the 4 corners or they get a hard no & we can put a hard sell on them to join us. The down side is they get a hard no, but that shows Arizona that Oregon & Washington aren’t bolting for another conference without them so they all decide if they are going to be a trio they can just be a trio in the Pac-10. It could just give Arizona the confidence to know that Oregon & Washington don’t have the option to ditch them.

I just have a hard time believing they sign a deal to stay in the PAC-10 for 6 more years, with 2024 probably being only 9 teams at most. Especially if they have to drop to an 8 game schedule. At that point it’s 4 OOC’s and 8 local games. We can get them 3-4 local games in conference, plus Oregon St/Washington St OOC. That only has them playing 2-3 away conference games outside their historic region per year.

[catastrophe]

This is all very fun. I’m really curious what Pac schools we’re even targeting right now. It seems like there just aren’t that many great value propositions (hence the implosion). CO and the other 4 corners makes perfect sense. WA and Oregon sounds fun for football but otherwise is just weird.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

big 10 says they aren't interested in expanding any furth at this point.

Big Ten Commissioner addresses expanding further after adding USC, UCLA

The Big Ten will expand to 16 teams in 2024 when USC and UCLA are added to the conference. Could even more teams be added to the conference in the near future? It seems to be an unlikely scenario after listening to Big Ten Commissioner Tony Petitti at Big Ten media days.

In light of USC and UCLA joining the Big Ten next year, Tony Petitti was asked if the conference might expand even more.

“All the direction I’m getting from leadership — our presidents and chancellors and our athletic directors — is to focus on USC and UCLA,” Petitti told reporters on Wednesday. “We have a lot of work to do there. I’m proud of the scheduling format we created in football. I think it touches on all the right things. But we have significant work to do in scheduling for our other sports, especially our olympic sports, to come up with the best solutions. We have a good plan in motion. I think we’ll learn from it. Like anything, there’ll be tweaks and changes. But overall, that’s really where we are. I’m not getting direction to do anything else other than that in terms of what the conference looks like right now.”

It’s hard to believe that the Big Ten won’t revisit expansion at some point. The SEC is set to add Texas to its conference and could potentially be eyeing more candidates. Colorado is expected to join the Big 12 as part of the ever-changing landscape in college sports.

The USC football team will face Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn State as part of its 2024 Big Ten schedule. UCLA is set to take on Ohio State, Michigan and Iowa, among others.

[Houstoncat93]

I think big 10 would rather expand with ACC teams and/or Notre Dame, and they are willing to wait.  I don't think Oregon and Washington are an option because of this.

That is what I am thinking too. The two bigs have picked who they want from Big 12 and PAC, now they wait until the ACC GOR ends for their next moves.

[chum1]

Man, if the PAC already met and decided against SDSU (prolly because being snobby again), are they going to change their minds now? Is proceeding with nine teams an actual option?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Man, if the PAC already met and decided against SDSU (prolly because being snobby again), are they going to change their minds now? Is proceeding with nine teams an actual option?

I could see the remaining holding their noses and adding SDSU, Fresno State, and Boise State, like we did with our knee jerk additions.

[ChiComCat]

big 10 says they aren't interested in expanding any furth at this point.

Big Ten Commissioner addresses expanding further after adding USC, UCLA

The Big Ten will expand to 16 teams in 2024 when USC and UCLA are added to the conference. Could even more teams be added to the conference in the near future? It seems to be an unlikely scenario after listening to Big Ten Commissioner Tony Petitti at Big Ten media days.

In light of USC and UCLA joining the Big Ten next year, Tony Petitti was asked if the conference might expand even more.

“All the direction I’m getting from leadership — our presidents and chancellors and our athletic directors — is to focus on USC and UCLA,” Petitti told reporters on Wednesday. “We have a lot of work to do there. I’m proud of the scheduling format we created in football. I think it touches on all the right things. But we have significant work to do in scheduling for our other sports, especially our olympic sports, to come up with the best solutions. We have a good plan in motion. I think we’ll learn from it. Like anything, there’ll be tweaks and changes. But overall, that’s really where we are. I’m not getting direction to do anything else other than that in terms of what the conference looks like right now.”

It’s hard to believe that the Big Ten won’t revisit expansion at some point. The SEC is set to add Texas to its conference and could potentially be eyeing more candidates. Colorado is expected to join the Big 12 as part of the ever-changing landscape in college sports.

The USC football team will face Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn State as part of its 2024 Big Ten schedule. UCLA is set to take on Ohio State, Michigan and Iowa, among others.

I'm hoping this is true but we all need to remember that the mechanism for conference expansion is a bunch of lying to people.

[MakeItRain]

Man, if the PAC already met and decided against SDSU (prolly because being snobby again), are they going to change their minds now? Is proceeding with nine teams an actual option?

Even if they change their minds it's probably too late for SDSU unless they just decide to eat a bunch of cash or a benefactor steps up. It will cost them $34 million to leave the conference today. Clearly they don't have that much money and whatever new Pac 12 deal is eventually agreed to won't be $34 million a year, probably not close at this point.

[MadCat]

Even if George K has a media agreement ready to roll out, if they just lost another part of their inventory, wouldn't that put him back at square one?

[chum1]

Man, if the PAC already met and decided against SDSU (prolly because being snobby again), are they going to change their minds now? Is proceeding with nine teams an actual option?

Even if they change their minds it's probably too late for SDSU unless they just decide to eat a bunch of cash or a benefactor steps up. It will cost them $34 million to leave the conference today. Clearly they don't have that much money and whatever new Pac 12 deal is eventually agreed to won't be $34 million a year, probably not close at this point.

What about 2025 and beyond? Are certain PAC schools really going to be able to get beyond their snobbiness?

[MakeItRain]

Man, if the PAC already met and decided against SDSU (prolly because being snobby again), are they going to change their minds now? Is proceeding with nine teams an actual option?

Even if they change their minds it's probably too late for SDSU unless they just decide to eat a bunch of cash or a benefactor steps up. It will cost them $34 million to leave the conference today. Clearly they don't have that much money and whatever new Pac 12 deal is eventually agreed to won't be $34 million a year, probably not close at this point.

What about 2025 and beyond? Are certain PAC schools really going to be able to get beyond their snobbiness?

Yeah, that's the next part of this that hardly anyone is talking about when discussing what's next for the Pac 12, they don't have overwhelming support for expansion and that clearly means Stanford and Cal don't support it. If three more schools leave before they decide on expansion that really puts the actual Pac 12 brand in peril. They'd be left with 6 teams, 2 of them, the lead two, are absolutely leaving to question their commitment to FBS football.

[Katpappy]

If BY gets UO & UW to join, I hope we take UA and leave Utah/ASU to rot.

[Katpappy]

WOW!!!  Today I watched four pro PAC podcasts and everyone thinks the PAC is dead.  Most think the Big XII has a choice of UA, ASU, UU, UO, and UW.  It's amazing how the PAC talking heads see the Big XII as a lifeboat.  These same guys didn't see Big XII as having a chance to get a PAC school.  Surprising how quickly opinions change.

[TheHamburglar]

If BY gets UO & UW to join, I hope we take UA and leave Utah/ASU to rot.

eff ‘em. I feel for Wazzou & Oregon St. eff Utah.

[WildcatNkilt]

Yea big FU to Utah.  They turned their nose up to Big 12 since alignment talk started.  It then got worse with their success in football.

[Katpappy]

If BY gets UO & UW to join, I hope we take UA and leave Utah/ASU to rot.

eff ‘em. I feel for Wazzou & Oregon St. eff Utah.

I say eff them all as they laughed at the "hateful eight" when we were down.  There was not one of the PAC schools that gave a crap about K-State or what was left of the Big XII.

[Katpappy]

Yea big FU to Utah.  They turned their nose up to Big 12 since alignment talk started.  It then got worse with their success in football.

One good thing from BY about only wanting schools that want to join the Big XII is that he knows how Utah feels.

[Katpappy]

Here's how the day is going...
.https://twitter.com/CatAttackPod/status/1684569477386752003?s=20

[Katpappy]

Vid of a secret meeting between Colorado president and Yormark.https://twitter.com/Keleven80/status/1684458567514968066?s=20.

[Katpappy]

Just a pair of PAC-talking asshats.
.https://twitter.com/OldTakesExposed/status/1684337966091587584?s=20

[kim carnes]

We keep making the grossest additions

[Katpappy]

Hey Kimmy, we could be saving a few.
.https://twitter.com/BarstoolBig12/status/1684588722312839168?s=20

[sonofdaxjones]

They may schedule around it, but I see some really shitty potential travel scenarios for USC and UCLA.

With the full understanding of online classes, but how much of a studanent (use your Cartman in the CU prez's office voice) athalete experience is it if say the best methodology for a UCLA or USC football is to to spend 8 or 9 straight days in the Rust Belt-Mid Atlantic because that makes more sense then flying back and forth.  How do you avoid say a Rust Belt away game-LA Home game-Rust Belt away game on back to back to back weekends?  I think that would blow. 

I cannot imagine the USC-UCLA aren't demanding some West coast partners in the Big 10.  They're going to have to written some new lines of code for that scheduling software to avoid some of these seemingly awful scenarios I would think.

[Katpappy]

Well, folks, it's official! 

[DaBigTrain]

https://twitter.com/cubuffs/status/1684675365728628736