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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20875 on: June 24, 2012, 08:14:11 PM »
Cigar envy  :gocho:
Cigers for everyone.  :cheers:
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20876 on: June 24, 2012, 08:17:06 PM »
I seem to remember columns appearing on shaggy bevo last summer where they spoke about a insider source who's code name was "the big cigar".  Maybe that is the cigar they are referring too.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20877 on: June 24, 2012, 08:20:23 PM »
I seem to remember columns appearing on shaggy bevo last summer where they spoke about a insider source who's code name was "the big cigar".  Maybe that is the cigar they are referring too.

Oh man, this is embarrassing.  I take back the bathing in their blood thing.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20878 on: June 24, 2012, 08:23:09 PM »
I seem to remember columns appearing on shaggy bevo last summer where they spoke about a insider source who's code name was "the big cigar".  Maybe that is the cigar they are referring too.
Hun, What, Where. When?  :confused:
The thread only started two months ago.  :gocho:
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20879 on: June 24, 2012, 08:39:24 PM »
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Somebody in the B12 is blocking Clemson thinking ND joins in all sports. May cause FSU to say no.



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The Dude of WV ?@theDudeofWV

I'm going to write about the reason the B12 has delayed invitations.


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20880 on: June 24, 2012, 08:42:03 PM »
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A trusted FoP of the Mountaineer program confirmed It tonight. The individual doing the blocking is on the expansion committee.


It can't be the Animal, can it??????   :horrorsurprise:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20881 on: June 24, 2012, 08:42:08 PM »
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Somebody in the B12 is blocking Clemson thinking ND joins in all sports. May cause FSU to say no.



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The Dude of WV ?@theDudeofWV

I'm going to write about the reason the B12 has delayed invitations.

he is full of crap

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20882 on: June 24, 2012, 08:42:16 PM »
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Somebody in the B12 is blocking Clemson thinking ND joins in all sports. May cause FSU to say no.



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The Dude of WV ?@theDudeofWV

I'm going to write about the reason the B12 has delayed invitations.
Yea, this is another blame Texas because we not jumping the gun.  It will happen; who knows when.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20883 on: June 24, 2012, 08:43:53 PM »
Man, just when I start to let my guard down on this crap just a tiny bit....back to chopping wood.  Pan, put on a pot of coffee, will ya?

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20884 on: June 24, 2012, 08:59:13 PM »
Man, just when I start to let my guard down on this crap just a tiny bit....back to chopping wood.  Pan, put on a pot of coffee, will ya?
Pete, more info to enjoy your pot of coffee by.

@theDudeofWV: I'm going to write about the reason the B12 has delayed invitations.
 
?@theDudeofWV: Everybody will be mad.
 
@theDudeofWV: Hint: it's about FSU and Clemson.
 
?@theDudeofWV: Tomorrow I have an update that will make some of you angry and I'll ask for a little help from my friends.

@theDudeofWV: Somebody in the B12 is blocking Clemson thinking ND joins in all sports. May cause FSU to say no.
 
@theDudeofWV: A trusted FoP of the Mountaineer program confirmed It tonight. The individual doing the blocking is on the expansion committee.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20885 on: June 24, 2012, 09:09:50 PM »
IIRC "Big Cigar" is like a UT donor or something. Thats what I infered reading their board a while back. Basically Big Cigar is going to "make Mack retire" this year if UT doesnt win some games  :ohno:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20886 on: June 25, 2012, 12:43:24 AM »
Man, just when I start to let my guard down on this crap just a tiny bit....back to chopping wood.  Pan, put on a pot of coffee, will ya?

Will do.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20887 on: June 25, 2012, 07:20:10 AM »
The Dude is in full on damage control mode now that he has essentially been exposed.

Should have seen this coming earlier.

And as always, Chip has the story right.  Deloss think he's got Notre Dame and we're going to wait for Notre Dame.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20888 on: June 25, 2012, 07:24:10 AM »
the dude, the baylor guy and swaim are all the same person as far as I'm concerned. 

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20889 on: June 25, 2012, 09:12:43 AM »
The Dude is in full on damage control mode now that he has essentially been exposed.

Should have seen this coming earlier.

And as always, Chip has the story right.  Deloss think he's got Notre Dame and we're going to wait for Notre Dame.

Yeah, once you walk yourself through it, it's not a bad play.

Though I do think the conference is putting itself at risk by not playing a 13th game in terms of playoff selection.  That, if anything, may cause us to expand sooner than we'd like.

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« Reply #20890 on: June 25, 2012, 09:33:25 AM »
Ya, I am now on team "just add FSU" and wait for ND.  In a couple years, if ND says no, then we take a Clemson or whatever....use the Big 10 road map.


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20891 on: June 25, 2012, 09:58:13 AM »
Ya, I am now on team "just add FSU" and wait for ND.  In a couple years, if ND says no, then we take a Clemson or whatever....use the Big 10 road map.

The problem is I don't think FSU wants to go alone.  They want another Southern partner.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20892 on: June 25, 2012, 10:21:16 AM »
Currie is the face of K-State to John Q. Coalaggy

http://www.msnsportsnet.com/big12/index.cfm?func=viewStory&story=21335

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« Reply #20893 on: June 25, 2012, 10:26:56 AM »
Currie is the face of K-State to John Q. Coalaggy

http://www.msnsportsnet.com/big12/index.cfm?func=viewStory&story=21335

Impostor.  The real Currie would've worn a coonskin hat for that.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20894 on: June 25, 2012, 10:27:05 AM »
Ya, I am now on team "just add FSU" and wait for ND.  In a couple years, if ND says no, then we take a Clemson or whatever....use the Big 10 road map.

The problem is I don't think FSU wants to go alone.  They want another Southern partner.

What FSU wants is secondary.  They have no leverage.

That's why the 'wait it out' strategy is probably the most ideal.  Let things play out for the next 3-5 years, and see how the money works out.  FSU may not have a choice.

A few things are going to be extremely important in terms of whether or not FSU comes here:

1) An 11-1 Big 12 team gets taken over a 12-1 ACC team (should that happen)
2) What the bowl tie-ins look like for the Big 12 as opposed to the SEC after the BCS stuff shakes itself out...and how that impacts the conference payout
3) The combined average pull of revenue (excluding Texas, of course) for Big 12 teams is significantly higher after you factor in bowl revenues, playoff revenues, TV revenues, etc. that what everyone in the ACC received.  The TV stuff is just a component.  The ACC handed over everything and got 17 million.  We handed over 2/3 and got three million more.
4) If the Big 12 wants to form a true network to bundle with the LHN where content is shared and swapped between members.

I think if you put all of those things together in 3-5 years, you'd have a compelling reason to get FSU to join, regardless of having a geographical partner and a lack of a CCG.  And even if we needed #12, and it looks like ND will never join, we just add BYU for football and call it good.

There are a lot of really easy solutions to what seems like a complex problem.  The travel thing in regards to FSU is a joke.  They'll have to send non-revenue sports to Pittsburgh and Syracuse.  Ft. Worth, Austin, and Waco are all closer than that.  I'd have to check Google, but I think the Oklahoma schools are closer than that as well.  Maybe even Lubbock.


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« Reply #20895 on: June 25, 2012, 10:28:44 AM »
only the big 12 could be stupid enough to "wait it out".  you do that and you are waiting for TX to go solo, not for ND to join. 

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« Reply #20896 on: June 25, 2012, 10:30:12 AM »
only the big 12 could be stupid enough to "wait it out".  you do that and you are waiting for TX to go solo, not for ND to join.

You're too smart to believe that's actually true.

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« Reply #20897 on: June 25, 2012, 10:31:08 AM »
only the big 12 could be stupid enough to "wait it out".  you do that and you are waiting for TX to go solo, not for ND to join.

You're too smart to believe that's actually true.

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« Reply #20898 on: June 25, 2012, 10:31:55 AM »
only the big 12 could be stupid enough to "wait it out".  you do that and you are waiting for TX to go solo, not for ND to join.

You're too smart to believe that's actually true.

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« Reply #20899 on: June 25, 2012, 10:36:25 AM »
On a personal note, I think the voting majority would probably vote to go to twelve now for numerous reasons.  However, I think a lot of people saw what happened with the SEC and Missouri and think, "Well, we can take the slam dunk odd number addition, but God, we don't want to get stuck with another Mizzou."

I think you'd get unanimous approval for FSU.  I think it would be split on #12 between wait for ND, Clemson, Louisville, Georgia Tech, etc.

When you line up the even number, I don't think you'll get a unanimous, "Yes," for any of them, and that's a big part of the problem.