Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[DQ12]

I'd rather be on this side of it, but ripping apart the ACC sucks.

I'm with you.  You know why?

Because I'm a good person.

Don't be ridiculous.  The ACC is chock full of turds and deserves its fate.

We're a "turd."  I'm glad we're going to be okay, but I wish none of this ever happened.

[Dugout DickStone]

I find their anger hilarious.  Join me

[wabash909]

I'm starting to agree with Chip on this one.

In short, anyone saying Notre Dame, Florida State or Clemson are done deals are talking to people with wishful thinking or relying on second or third-hand information from people with wishful thinking.

[EMAWmeister]

which ACC board is the most butthurt?

[DQ12]

which ACC board is the most butthurt?

Pittsburgh.  It's hard to watch their rival (wvu) enjoying such nice things while they slowly realized they joined a stinker.

[Super PurpleCat]

Def Pitt.  When I read their posts I can hear the shrieking in my mind.

[Rage Against the McKee]

which ACC board is the most butthurt?

Pittsburgh.  It's hard to watch their rival (wvu) enjoying such nice things while they slowly realized they joined a stinker.

Not to mention that they turned down their opportunity to enjoy last things just last year. Talk about buyer's remorse. . .

[chum1]

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/108844-Clemson-and-FSU-talk-not-going-away?p=3987866&viewfull=1#post3987866

[Pete]

[kstater]

They might want to rethink their calling of their fans delusional.

[Pete]

I agree with the Shaggy Bevo sentiment that Chip is merely Deloss' means of attempting to pump the breaks...

...and despite any objection from Deloss, we ARE adding Clemson and FSU, and that it's a done deal.

Now, Chip is desperately trying to keep us from adding any more until Deloss can wrangle Notre Dame.

[Pete]

Also, there are some pretty disturbing things being thrown around on Shaggy Bevo about the types of demands that Notre Dame will have / have...stuff like guarantees for our top bowl spots regardless of record, 5 non con games, etc..

I mean, we obviously have to just say yes and spread our cheeks.

[wetwillie]

The Big 12 is oscar willis in pulp fiction and notre dame joining with their demands is  asking us to take a dive in the fifth. I hope we just swallow our pride and take the big payout.

[p1k3]

eff that. Notre Dame can eat a bag of dicks

[CNS]

Also, there are some pretty disturbing things being thrown around on Shaggy Bevo about the types of demands that Notre Dame will have / have...stuff like guarantees for our top bowl spots regardless of record, 5 non con games, etc..

I mean, we obviously have to just say yes and spread our cheeks.

I hope that a bunch of shifting takes place this summer and expedites the end of the BCS to the tune of the conferences having all the power and ND finds their leverage greatly diminished.

[DQ12]

Also, there are some pretty disturbing things being thrown around on Shaggy Bevo about the types of demands that Notre Dame will have / have...stuff like guarantees for our top bowl spots regardless of record, 5 non con games, etc..

I mean, we obviously have to just say yes and spread our cheeks.

Ugh, that would suck.

[Stevesie60]

Obviously ND adds a lot. But if we're the only decent conference in which schools get to keep all their profit from third tier rights, we have a lot to offer them as well. That being said, there's no way I believe that ND is basically asking to be placed in a BCS game or the SECvsBIG12 game every year.

[Pete]

I agree with the Shaggy Bevo sentiment that Chip is merely Deloss' means of attempting to pump the breaks...

...and despite any objection from Deloss, we ARE adding Clemson and FSU, and that it's a done deal.

Now, Chip is desperately trying to keep us from adding any more until Deloss can wrangle Notre Dame.

From Chip

Do enough members of the Big 12 want to start taking calls from applicants immediately and even welcome them in before Notre Dame is ready to commit? Will Texas be able to convince everyone to wait and see if Notre Dame will ultimately pick the Big 12?

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1367286


The entire article was basically written by Deloss.


eff you Chip, FSU and Clemson are in....and UT's power in the conference will drop as a result.

[AzCat]

Also, there are some pretty disturbing things being thrown around on Shaggy Bevo about the types of demands that Notre Dame will have / have...stuff like guarantees for our top bowl spots regardless of record, 5 non con games, etc..

I mean, we obviously have to just say yes and spread our cheeks.

Actually no.  Their NBC ratings suck ass a bit more each year.  When the playoff happens and they're actually or effectively shut out they'll demand a spot in a Big 4 conference.

Right now there's only one place where then can own their own tier 3 rights which, if they're as hot crap as they're supposed to be on a national basis, should be quite profitable for them.  That should be enough, it's more than they'll get from anyone else.

[MadCat]

I will be pissed if we concede bowl games in negotiations.  Do not want...that badly.

[Pete]

I will be pissed if we concede bowl games in negotiations.  Do not want...that badly.

It's already as bad as that.

The new team from the Big 12 who plays in the Champions bowl is only guaranteed their spot is a team who wins the conference.  The other is merely a "deserving team."  If OU is the third place team, and Iowa State is the second place team, OU is the "deserving team."  Don't rough ridin' kid yourself.

[Katpappy]

ACC rebuttal...

[TheHamburglar]

Am I the only one who would say eff-you to FSU & Clemson if it meant we could add ND & Pitt and stop at 12?

-Only 8 conference games
-Division 1: OU, OSU, UT, ISU, KU, KSU
-Division 2: ND, Pitt, WVU, Tech, Baylor, TCU
-Allow only UT & ND to set every year cross rival and do what SEC did for 20 years or set 1 cross rival for everyone
-Setup basketball with 16 game conf. schedule with 4 pods (first 3 & last 3 in divisions above) which every team plays each other 4 times over 3 years
-Play everyone in your pod home-home every year, rotate other pod to do home-home with on 3 year rotation cycle
-Everyone is happy, no real reason for UT and ND to push for more expansion
-If you wanted you could swap ISU, KU, KSU for Tech, Baylor, TCU for North/South again (although I though ND would fight like hell against having KU, KSU, ISU in their division over 3 Texas schools). 

[Panjandrum]

I think people are thinking too much into this.  Yes, twelve teams with FSU and ND is the home run of home runs, but I think most people (rightly) in the Big 12 realize that if you have a chance to walk away with FSU, Clemson, ND, and someone from the GT/Pitt/VT/Miami pool, you take it and run.

Texas is going to try and slow play this, but I don't think the rest of the conference is going to let them do it.  By hitting the ACC hard, the Big East will get hit hard, and Notre Dame is looking for some place to drop non-revenue sports.  If the Big 12 strikes hard and gets good schools, and they continue to explore this relationship with the SEC, it's going to be pretty clear that we're going to be rolling in so much cash it will be embarrassing.

And there's only one conference out there that will let you have your own conference network.  Imagine what Notre Dame would make with our "potential" deals and their own network?

It would be absurd.

[Katpappy]

Luv this quote from Shaggybevo...
I keep forgetting that it's only 4 more months until ultimate Aggie Misery kicks in and Looch just loses it. They really still have no idea how ugly it's going to be... Instead of talking crap about realignment and being contrarian, they really need to be doing kegel exercises.