Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[wetwillie]

LOL they don't get full conference revenue until 2020 for coming at us with that silliness.

[ben ji]

Staying at 10 is much better than adding FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Louisville. 14 is only worth it if we somehow get Notre Dame.

No. Adding those schools would be a home run.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Staying at 10 is much better than adding FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Louisville. 14 is only worth it if we somehow get Notre Dame.

No. Adding those schools would be a home run.

I only want 2 of them. I don't want some stupid conference schedule where we have unbalanced divisions, only we make them even more unbalanced with stupid "cross-division rivals". eff that.

[ben ji]

Staying at 10 is much better than adding FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Louisville. 14 is only worth it if we somehow get Notre Dame.

No. Adding those schools would be a home run.

I only want 2 of them. I don't want some stupid conference schedule where we have unbalanced divisions, only we make them even more unbalanced with stupid "cross-division rivals". eff that.

Agreed that adding 2 would be ideal. Unfortunately it looks like our options are adding FSU,CU,theU and UL/GT/MD to get to 14 or adding UL and some other scrub(Cincy?) to get to 12.

The first option is way better even with the shitty divisional setup.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Staying at 10 is much better than adding FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Louisville. 14 is only worth it if we somehow get Notre Dame.

No. Adding those schools would be a home run.

I only want 2 of them. I don't want some stupid conference schedule where we have unbalanced divisions, only we make them even more unbalanced with stupid "cross-division rivals". eff that.

Agreed that adding 2 would be ideal. Unfortunately it looks like our options are adding FSU,CU,theU and UL/GT/MD to get to 14 or adding UL and some other scrub(Cincy?) to get to 12.

The first option is way better even with the shitty divisional setup.

You are forgetting the third option, which is to stay at 10 teams. That sounds better to me than either of the two options you laid out.

[ben ji]

Staying at 10 is much better than adding FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Louisville. 14 is only worth it if we somehow get Notre Dame.

No. Adding those schools would be a home run.

I only want 2 of them. I don't want some stupid conference schedule where we have unbalanced divisions, only we make them even more unbalanced with stupid "cross-division rivals". eff that.

Agreed that adding 2 would be ideal. Unfortunately it looks like our options are adding FSU,CU,theU and UL/GT/MD to get to 14 or adding UL and some other scrub(Cincy?) to get to 12.

The first option is way better even with the shitty divisional setup.

You are forgetting the third option, which is to stay at 10 teams. That sounds better to me than either of the two options you laid out.

10 is fine for now but we are in a holding pattern while waiting to get back to at least 12 in order to get the Dr Pepper back. Adding those 4 schools mentioned above is the best option to getting it back.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Staying at 10 is much better than adding FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Louisville. 14 is only worth it if we somehow get Notre Dame.

No. Adding those schools would be a home run.

I only want 2 of them. I don't want some stupid conference schedule where we have unbalanced divisions, only we make them even more unbalanced with stupid "cross-division rivals". eff that.

Agreed that adding 2 would be ideal. Unfortunately it looks like our options are adding FSU,CU,theU and UL/GT/MD to get to 14 or adding UL and some other scrub(Cincy?) to get to 12.

The first option is way better even with the shitty divisional setup.

You are forgetting the third option, which is to stay at 10 teams. That sounds better to me than either of the two options you laid out.

10 is fine for now but we are in a holding pattern while waiting to get back to at least 12 in order to get the Dr Pepper back. Adding those 4 schools mentioned above is the best option to getting it back.

Adding 4 schools wouldn't give us enough money to justify giving up the exposure provided by having annual matchups against OU and Texas.

[WildcatNkilt]

FSU:  "We demand xxxxxx"
Big12: "LoL ok enjoy making less money in the ACC and being little bro to Florida and Carolina's bitch."
FSU:  "ok nevermind what we just demanded please take us....please please please."
Big12: 

[ChiComCat]

Staying at 10 is much better than adding FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Louisville. 14 is only worth it if we somehow get Notre Dame.

No. Adding those schools would be a home run.

I only want 2 of them. I don't want some stupid conference schedule where we have unbalanced divisions, only we make them even more unbalanced with stupid "cross-division rivals". eff that.

Agreed that adding 2 would be ideal. Unfortunately it looks like our options are adding FSU,CU,theU and UL/GT/MD to get to 14 or adding UL and some other scrub(Cincy?) to get to 12.

The first option is way better even with the shitty divisional setup.

You are forgetting the third option, which is to stay at 10 teams. That sounds better to me than either of the two options you laid out.

10 is fine for now but we are in a holding pattern while waiting to get back to at least 12 in order to get the Dr Pepper back. Adding those 4 schools mentioned above is the best option to getting it back.

Adding 4 schools wouldn't give us enough money to justify giving up the exposure provided by having annual matchups against OU and Texas.

If we go to divisions, we will probably keep the annual matchups with OU and Texas

[Rage Against the McKee]

FSU:  "We demand xxxxxx"
Big12: "LoL ok enjoy making less money in the ACC and being little bro to Florida and Carolina's bitch."
FSU:  "ok nevermind what we just demanded please take us....please please please."
Big12: 

That would be nice, but I expect Neinas to go ahead and agree to their demands and ruin things for everyone. It's the Big 12. It's what they do.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Staying at 10 is much better than adding FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Louisville. 14 is only worth it if we somehow get Notre Dame.

No. Adding those schools would be a home run.

I only want 2 of them. I don't want some stupid conference schedule where we have unbalanced divisions, only we make them even more unbalanced with stupid "cross-division rivals". eff that.

Agreed that adding 2 would be ideal. Unfortunately it looks like our options are adding FSU,CU,theU and UL/GT/MD to get to 14 or adding UL and some other scrub(Cincy?) to get to 12.

The first option is way better even with the shitty divisional setup.

You are forgetting the third option, which is to stay at 10 teams. That sounds better to me than either of the two options you laid out.

10 is fine for now but we are in a holding pattern while waiting to get back to at least 12 in order to get the Dr Pepper back. Adding those 4 schools mentioned above is the best option to getting it back.

Adding 4 schools wouldn't give us enough money to justify giving up the exposure provided by having annual matchups against OU and Texas.

If we go to divisions, we will probably keep the annual matchups with OU and Texas

I guess I wouldn't mind this happening, but I just don't see it. We might get an annual matchup with OU (Texas being OU's cross-division rival), but I really doubt we get both. I really don't like the whole "cross-division rival" idea, though. I hate the concept of having teams in your conference that you only play once every 4 years.

[ben ji]

Staying at 10 is much better than adding FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Louisville. 14 is only worth it if we somehow get Notre Dame.

No. Adding those schools would be a home run.

I only want 2 of them. I don't want some stupid conference schedule where we have unbalanced divisions, only we make them even more unbalanced with stupid "cross-division rivals". eff that.

Agreed that adding 2 would be ideal. Unfortunately it looks like our options are adding FSU,CU,theU and UL/GT/MD to get to 14 or adding UL and some other scrub(Cincy?) to get to 12.

The first option is way better even with the shitty divisional setup.

You are forgetting the third option, which is to stay at 10 teams. That sounds better to me than either of the two options you laid out.

10 is fine for now but we are in a holding pattern while waiting to get back to at least 12 in order to get the Dr Pepper back. Adding those 4 schools mentioned above is the best option to getting it back.

Adding 4 schools wouldn't give us enough money to justify giving up the exposure provided by having annual matchups against OU and Texas.

Adding 4 schools doesnt mean we wouldnt be in the same division as OU/TX but that doesnt matter.

Twice in the past 2 years we were reduced to praying for a BE invite. We will give up annual matchups against OU and UT if the powers that be decided thats what we need to do.

The powers that be have decided they want to get the Dr Pepper, whether it is 2 years from now or 5 years from now they want the Dr Pepper back.

[WildcatNkilt]

FSU:  "We demand xxxxxx"
Big12: "LoL ok enjoy making less money in the ACC and being little bro to Florida and Carolina's bitch."
FSU:  "ok nevermind what we just demanded please take us....please please please."
Big12: 

That would be nice, but I expect Neinas to go ahead and agree to their demands and ruin things for everyone. It's the Big 12. It's what they do.

I actually have a lot of faith in Neinas.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Staying at 10 is much better than adding FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Louisville. 14 is only worth it if we somehow get Notre Dame.

No. Adding those schools would be a home run.

I only want 2 of them. I don't want some stupid conference schedule where we have unbalanced divisions, only we make them even more unbalanced with stupid "cross-division rivals". eff that.

Agreed that adding 2 would be ideal. Unfortunately it looks like our options are adding FSU,CU,theU and UL/GT/MD to get to 14 or adding UL and some other scrub(Cincy?) to get to 12.

The first option is way better even with the shitty divisional setup.

You are forgetting the third option, which is to stay at 10 teams. That sounds better to me than either of the two options you laid out.

10 is fine for now but we are in a holding pattern while waiting to get back to at least 12 in order to get the Dr Pepper back. Adding those 4 schools mentioned above is the best option to getting it back.

Adding 4 schools wouldn't give us enough money to justify giving up the exposure provided by having annual matchups against OU and Texas.

Adding 4 schools doesnt mean we wouldnt be in the same division as OU/TX but that doesnt matter.

Twice in the past 2 years we were reduced to praying for a BE invite. We will give up annual matchups against OU and UT if the powers that be decided thats what we need to do.

The powers that be have decided they want to get the Dr Pepper, whether it is 2 years from now or 5 years from now they want the Dr Pepper back.

Well, let's just hope the powers that be swing and miss then.

[Panjandrum]

That said, if I'm a New Mexico State fan I'm running for the nearest toilet and if I'm an Idaho fan I already have a giant load dropped in my pants. At least Texas State will have a conference to go to when it's all said and done. NMSU is going to have to beg the Sun Belt to get in and Idaho is just completely mumped.

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out where they fit.  NMSU needs the Sun Belt.  Idaho is probably going to need to drop back to FCS.  There are simply no options for them unless the MWC really feels a desperate need to get to 12.

[Rage Against the McKee]

That said, if I'm a New Mexico State fan I'm running for the nearest toilet and if I'm an Idaho fan I already have a giant load dropped in my pants. At least Texas State will have a conference to go to when it's all said and done. NMSU is going to have to beg the Sun Belt to get in and Idaho is just completely mumped.

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out where they fit.  NMSU needs the Sun Belt.  Idaho is probably going to need to drop back to FCS.  There are simply no options for them unless the MWC really feels a desperate need to get to 12.

I could see the MWC potentially adding enough teams to get to 12. A championship game would be good for their network.

[TheHamburglar]

FSU wants in....but under their conditions...

FSU wants to be in a League on par with the SEC in both size and Competition. You can just stay in the ACC
FSU wants the B12 to go to 14 You can just stay in the ACC
FSU wants Miami You can just stay in the ACC
FSU wants GT You can just stay in the ACC
FSU wants the conference title game to be hosted at rotating sites You can just ask the ACC for that
FSU wants to keep ties to the Orange bowl in some way You can just stay in the ACC

[Rage Against the McKee]

The only benefit I can see in going to 14 teams is that adding FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Georgia Tech would completely eff the ACC to the point that it wouldn't even be that much better than the Big East. I would have to think that would keep K-State safe. If we are talking about what is best for K-State right now, though, 10 teams is best.

[MadCat]

Dear FSU,

I'm cool with rotating sites for Big XII Cgame as long as the sites are KC and Dallas.

Yours in Christ,

MadCat

[Rage Against the McKee]

I honestly don't care what the sites for the Big 12 championship game are. FSU can have that concession, for all I care.

[ben ji]

I would be fine rotating the game between Jerry's world and Jacksonville, maybe a 3/5 split favoring jerry world. I would not want the game to be hosted in that cesspool that is the orange bowl.

***disclaimer**** ben ji has a friend that lives in jacksonville and the chance to crash on their couch and be chauffered around for the Dr Pepper was one of the deciding factors.

[Panjandrum]

That said, if I'm a New Mexico State fan I'm running for the nearest toilet and if I'm an Idaho fan I already have a giant load dropped in my pants. At least Texas State will have a conference to go to when it's all said and done. NMSU is going to have to beg the Sun Belt to get in and Idaho is just completely mumped.

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out where they fit.  NMSU needs the Sun Belt.  Idaho is probably going to need to drop back to FCS.  There are simply no options for them unless the MWC really feels a desperate need to get to 12.

I could see the MWC potentially adding enough teams to get to 12. A championship game would be good for their network.

Yeah, but Idaho and New Mexico State?

I mean, Idaho, maybe, after they lost Boise.  But New Mexico State? They already have UNM.

Woof.

[Rage Against the McKee]

That said, if I'm a New Mexico State fan I'm running for the nearest toilet and if I'm an Idaho fan I already have a giant load dropped in my pants. At least Texas State will have a conference to go to when it's all said and done. NMSU is going to have to beg the Sun Belt to get in and Idaho is just completely mumped.

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out where they fit.  NMSU needs the Sun Belt.  Idaho is probably going to need to drop back to FCS.  There are simply no options for them unless the MWC really feels a desperate need to get to 12.

I could see the MWC potentially adding enough teams to get to 12. A championship game would be good for their network.

Yeah, but Idaho and New Mexico State?

I mean, Idaho, maybe, after they lost Boise.  But New Mexico State? They already have UNM.

Woof.

I honestly think that New Mexico State should be more attractive to the MWC than Idaho. They aren't tapping into tv markets with either team, and at least they get a natural in-state conference rivalry with NMSU. Rivalry games can be fun to watch. Idaho isn't even fun for people in Idaho to watch.

[TheHamburglar]

That said, if I'm a New Mexico State fan I'm running for the nearest toilet and if I'm an Idaho fan I already have a giant load dropped in my pants. At least Texas State will have a conference to go to when it's all said and done. NMSU is going to have to beg the Sun Belt to get in and Idaho is just completely mumped.

What is La Tech going to do?

[DQ12]

I would not want the game to be hosted in that cesspool that is the orange bowl.

I don't think you have to worry about this.