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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #15850 on: October 06, 2011, 04:27:11 PM »
634 pages and we end up with another mid major Texas school.  If MU stays and we end it here at 10, color me disappointed.

We'll always have promises of wiping crap in hair to look back upon.

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« Reply #15851 on: October 06, 2011, 04:27:51 PM »
I really thought that would be forgotten by now...
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« Reply #15852 on: October 06, 2011, 04:28:25 PM »
I want the Big 12 to expand, and I was only pointing out the possible strategic implications of TCU.

I view TCU expansion as almost being mutually exclusive to expansion to Louisville/WVU/BYU etc. etc.

If it's just TCU, yeah, I'll be disappointed.  

Again, TCU was about chess pieces and trying to put a brake on the SEC message that's coming to Texas recruits harder than ever.  It's another group of Big 12 coaches out there that have the Big 12 message that goes hand in hand with their school message.

I am not completely sold on Texas independence either, they're a huge brand, but it's Notre Dame yet . . . it's not radio affiliates in every major media market, it's not a huge following (still) in Chicago and NYC.  

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #15853 on: October 06, 2011, 04:29:37 PM »
Texas doesn't need a BCS conference.

but they need a conference

Yes, but not for football.

sure, but they need one.  which other conference are they going to join?  You see Texas basketball/baseball playing in the MWC?  The SEC/PAC/Big10 aren't letting them in without football.  

That's why they are bringing ND to the Big XII.  They want to keep us together, but they don't need us for football.

We would never agree to that.

Of course we will.  NU is in the Big 10, A&M is in the SEC, CU is in the PAC12.  MU is probably gone.  What the hell else are we gonna do?

Members of conferences in this day and age make more money than those with their own network.

I don't know what else to say other than the only reason ND is independent is because they have a hell bent desire, regardless of common sense, to do so.

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« Reply #15854 on: October 06, 2011, 04:30:10 PM »
I'll be honest, I have a Card-on for Louisville.  

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« Reply #15855 on: October 06, 2011, 04:31:22 PM »
Currie on BITB, saying 6 year grant rights puts that deadline beyond the expiration of the existing Tier 1 contract. 




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« Reply #15856 on: October 06, 2011, 04:33:17 PM »
TCU has an Equestrian team.    :excited:

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« Reply #15857 on: October 06, 2011, 04:33:46 PM »
Anyone know the details of ND's current TV deal, particularly when it's done?  I've got to think their brand power has declined.  Back when the BCS was formed people were worried they would be in the title game every year because of the "ND Rule".  Now, not so much.  Texas may not be ND yet, but they are heading in opposite directions.  If Notre Dame doesn't see some real success soon, will it make sense for them to stay independent when they can't get the big TV deal?
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #15858 on: October 06, 2011, 04:34:44 PM »
634 pages and we end up with another mid major Texas school.  If MU stays and we end it here at 10, color me disappointed.

We'll always have promises of wiping crap in hair to look back upon.

He's too busy not knowing who Pitbull is

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« Reply #15859 on: October 06, 2011, 04:35:55 PM »
I'll be honest, I have a Card-on for Louisville.  

+1.  Throbbing. 

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« Reply #15860 on: October 06, 2011, 04:36:40 PM »
Anyone know the details of ND's current TV deal, particularly when it's done?  I've got to think their brand power has declined.  Back when the BCS was formed people were worried they would be in the title game every year because of the "ND Rule".  Now, not so much.  Texas may not be ND yet, but they are heading in opposite directions.  If Notre Dame doesn't see some real success soon, will it make sense for them to stay independent when they can't get the big TV deal?

2015.  Same year our Tier 1 rights are up.

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« Reply #15861 on: October 06, 2011, 04:37:24 PM »
Currie - we want to grow the Big12 to include as many schools as makes the Big12 most stable.  If that's 1 school or 3 schools, K-State supports whatever is best.  


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #15862 on: October 06, 2011, 04:37:50 PM »

I am not completely sold on Texas independence either, they're a huge brand, but it's Notre Dame yet . . . it's not radio affiliates in every major media market, it's not a huge following (still) in Chicago and NYC.  


And they aren't either.  That's why they are glad to agree to the 6 year thing.  They can give it a go and make the decision in a few years when they know the answer.

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« Reply #15863 on: October 06, 2011, 04:38:13 PM »


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« Reply #15864 on: October 06, 2011, 04:38:44 PM »
I'll be honest, I have a Card-on for Louisville. 

+1.  Throbbing. 

It's like we have twin card-ons.

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« Reply #15865 on: October 06, 2011, 04:40:35 PM »
I'll be honest, I have a Card-on for Louisville. 

+1.  Throbbing. 

It's like we have twin card-ons.

this is getting strange

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« Reply #15866 on: October 06, 2011, 04:40:53 PM »
Anyone know the details of ND's current TV deal, particularly when it's done?  I've got to think their brand power has declined.  Back when the BCS was formed people were worried they would be in the title game every year because of the "ND Rule".  Now, not so much.  Texas may not be ND yet, but they are heading in opposite directions.  If Notre Dame doesn't see some real success soon, will it make sense for them to stay independent when they can't get the big TV deal?

2015.  Same year our Tier 1 rights are up.

Well isn't that convenient.....

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« Reply #15867 on: October 06, 2011, 04:43:01 PM »
Currie on BITB, saying 6 year grant rights puts that deadline beyond the expiration of the existing Tier 1 contract. 





So we'll all get excited about having a huge new TV deal that will be voided when Texas goes independent.  Can't wait.  Will make for some great BBS'n

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« Reply #15868 on: October 06, 2011, 04:44:32 PM »
Currie on BITB, saying 6 year grant rights puts that deadline beyond the expiration of the existing Tier 1 contract. 





So we'll all get excited about having a huge new TV deal that will be voided when Texas goes independent.  Can't wait.  Will make for some great BBS'n


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« Reply #15869 on: October 06, 2011, 04:44:49 PM »


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« Reply #15870 on: October 06, 2011, 04:45:53 PM »
I'll be honest, I have a Card-on for Louisville. 

+1.  Throbbing. 

It's like we have twin card-ons.

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« Reply #15871 on: October 06, 2011, 04:46:32 PM »
Ira, quit with this "UT is going independent" crap.  Nobody buys it, buster.


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« Reply #15872 on: October 06, 2011, 04:46:43 PM »
Anyone know the details of ND's current TV deal, particularly when it's done?  I've got to think their brand power has declined.  Back when the BCS was formed people were worried they would be in the title game every year because of the "ND Rule".  Now, not so much.  Texas may not be ND yet, but they are heading in opposite directions.  If Notre Dame doesn't see some real success soon, will it make sense for them to stay independent when they can't get the big TV deal?

2015.  Same year our Tier 1 rights are up.

Well isn't that convenient.....

if we add notre dame, we might as well add USC and Michigan too so they have someone to play.  Drop MU, boom back to 12.

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« Reply #15873 on: October 06, 2011, 04:48:06 PM »
Anyone know the details of ND's current TV deal, particularly when it's done?  I've got to think their brand power has declined.  Back when the BCS was formed people were worried they would be in the title game every year because of the "ND Rule".  Now, not so much.  Texas may not be ND yet, but they are heading in opposite directions.  If Notre Dame doesn't see some real success soon, will it make sense for them to stay independent when they can't get the big TV deal?

2015.  Same year our Tier 1 rights are up.

Well isn't that convenient.....

For UT and ND to try and do their own thing with OSU, TT, and BYU, and leave the KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor, and TCU out, yes that's convenient.  I have  no idea what UT, ND, and OU would do, but you can guarantee they'll try and figure something out.  UT will perpetually be looking out for UT.  The rest of the conference needs to look out for themselves and bring WVU, Louisville, and someone else into the mix to cover their asses.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #15874 on: October 06, 2011, 04:48:22 PM »
Ira, quit with this "UT is going independent" crap.  Nobody buys it, buster.