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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14550 on: September 27, 2011, 09:03:41 AM »
louisville: will take.

cinci: no thanks.

Makes me think BYU is likely not interested.

North adds: Louisville, Cincy
South adds: TCU

Hey Pan, since you enjoy this conference stuff so much, I'd like to hear your thoughts on having the divisions rotate instead of a fixed north and south. Seems like it could keep the balance of power more fluid and less geographically dependent. Also it could keep travel distances shared more evenly than if you were to add Big East teams to the North.

Well, if they add TCU (or Houston, which I'm not completely opposed to doing; there is a lot of upside there), you keep North and South, and Louisville goes North with BYU or Cincy.

If they add BYU, Cincy, and Louisville, I think you push Louisville to the South.  I'd prefer it be BYU, but OU and UT probably want to block adding another strong program to their division and would rather have Louisville to push around.

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« Reply #14551 on: September 27, 2011, 09:30:06 AM »
Not sure I really want BYU. I just think they won't be happy here long. If they join the Big 12 it's purely for revenue dollars. The extra exposure really isn't going to help them given their strict adherence to Mormon traditions. Not that this isn't respectable, it just clashes culturally with what a lot of athletes are expecting out of a college experience. So they are not going to magically convert a number of high profile Texas high school prospects that suddenly change their football program. I think their success in the Big will be fairly limited. Also travel is more a disadvantage to BYU than it is an advantage to them (other schools having to travel to Utah). My gut tells me they would last about 7 - 10 years in this league.

Also, it's not like Utah is a recruiting hot bed, and playing in Provo doesn't gain you any exposure in California. So, I'm not sure BYU makes as much since for the league as L'ville and Cincy. I think we're better off securing those two and making a legit push for ND. And when we don;t get ND we settle for Houston. I just think expanding the footprint east to include Kentucky/Ohio/Indiana(long shot) is much more viable.

If a Big 12 network (similar to the SEC network picked up by local cable affiliates) is ever going to happen going East brings much more value than BYU.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14552 on: September 27, 2011, 09:30:56 AM »
louisville: will take.

cinci: no thanks.

Makes me think BYU is likely not interested.

North adds: Louisville, Cincy
South adds: TCU

Hey Pan, since you enjoy this conference stuff so much, I'd like to hear your thoughts on having the divisions rotate instead of a fixed north and south. Seems like it could keep the balance of power more fluid and less geographically dependent. Also it could keep travel distances shared more evenly than if you were to add Big East teams to the North.

Well, if they add TCU (or Houston, which I'm not completely opposed to doing; there is a lot of upside there), you keep North and South, and Louisville goes North with BYU or Cincy.

If they add BYU, Cincy, and Louisville, I think you push Louisville to the South.  I'd prefer it be BYU, but OU and UT probably want to block adding another strong program to their division and would rather have Louisville to push around.

Why do you keep talking 12 when most of what we have is the desire to stay at 10?

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14554 on: September 27, 2011, 09:59:37 AM »
louisville: will take.

cinci: no thanks.

Makes me think BYU is likely not interested.

North adds: Louisville, Cincy
South adds: TCU

Hey Pan, since you enjoy this conference stuff so much, I'd like to hear your thoughts on having the divisions rotate instead of a fixed north and south. Seems like it could keep the balance of power more fluid and less geographically dependent. Also it could keep travel distances shared more evenly than if you were to add Big East teams to the North.

Well, if they add TCU (or Houston, which I'm not completely opposed to doing; there is a lot of upside there), you keep North and South, and Louisville goes North with BYU or Cincy.

If they add BYU, Cincy, and Louisville, I think you push Louisville to the South.  I'd prefer it be BYU, but OU and UT probably want to block adding another strong program to their division and would rather have Louisville to push around.

Why do you keep talking 12 when most of what we have is the desire to stay at 10?

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14555 on: September 27, 2011, 10:18:14 AM »

Mizzou isn't going anywhere. From the AP..

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14556 on: September 27, 2011, 10:59:17 AM »
I'll see you guys here next summer.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14557 on: September 27, 2011, 11:48:28 AM »
Let's try to keep this thread going until next year at roughly the same time.    I'm sure we'll be doing this again then.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14558 on: September 27, 2011, 12:10:25 PM »
Hypothetical Scenario

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-We can go to twelve and the money still makes sense

Would you be cool with having the championship game being played in the home team w/ the better record? As KSU fans, it might not be a good idea as I doubt we'd ever win our division AND have the best record in the conference, but it might be enough to convince OU and UT to go to 12.
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« Reply #14559 on: September 27, 2011, 12:15:29 PM »
Hypothetical Scenario

Presumptions
-We can go to twelve and the money still makes sense

Would you be cool with having the championship game being played in the home team w/ the better record? As KSU fans, it might not be a good idea as I doubt we'd ever win our division AND have the best record in the conference, but it might be enough to convince OU and UT to go to 12.

that game will be in the Jerry dome forever.  I just hope we can keep the basketball tourney in KC

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14560 on: September 27, 2011, 12:40:01 PM »
Hypothetical Scenario

Presumptions
-We can go to twelve and the money still makes sense

Would you be cool with having the championship game being played in the home team w/ the better record? As KSU fans, it might not be a good idea as I doubt we'd ever win our division AND have the best record in the conference, but it might be enough to convince OU and UT to go to 12.

that game will be in the Jerry dome forever.  I just hope we can keep the basketball tourney in KC

If MU leaves, no more Big 12 events in KC.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14561 on: September 27, 2011, 12:42:15 PM »
Hypothetical Scenario

Presumptions
-We can go to twelve and the money still makes sense

Would you be cool with having the championship game being played in the home team w/ the better record? As KSU fans, it might not be a good idea as I doubt we'd ever win our division AND have the best record in the conference, but it might be enough to convince OU and UT to go to 12.

that game will be in the Jerry dome forever.  I just hope we can keep the basketball tourney in KC

If MU leaves, no more Big 12 events in KC.

Scotchy D'armond(SP) tweeted yesterday about hopefully bringing back some old Christmas tourny if the B12 blows up.  Same sized tourney, diff time of year.

Would be more than ok with this. 

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« Reply #14562 on: September 27, 2011, 12:52:10 PM »
How long should I wait before unfollowing @DanBeebe?

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« Reply #14563 on: September 27, 2011, 12:57:24 PM »
the guy on gpc that likes to post pics of half naked girls says West Virginia to SEC is back on.

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« Reply #14564 on: September 27, 2011, 01:01:33 PM »
the guy on gpc that likes to post pics of half naked girls says West Virginia to SEC is back on.

I really want to be right about that.

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« Reply #14565 on: September 27, 2011, 01:10:17 PM »
the guy on gpc that likes to post pics of half naked girls says West Virginia to SEC is back on.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.msg356242#msg356242

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14566 on: September 27, 2011, 01:22:11 PM »
Hypothetical Scenario

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-We can go to twelve and the money still makes sense

Would you be cool with having the championship game being played in the home team w/ the better record? As KSU fans, it might not be a good idea as I doubt we'd ever win our division AND have the best record in the conference, but it might be enough to convince OU and UT to go to 12.

that game will be in the Jerry dome forever.  I just hope we can keep the basketball tourney in KC

If MU leaves, no more Big 12 events in KC.

That's really stupid.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #14568 on: September 27, 2011, 01:34:56 PM »
http://www.theupsetblog.com/2011/09/brigham-young-has-big-12-offer.html

would take.

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« Reply #14569 on: September 27, 2011, 02:22:27 PM »

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« Reply #14570 on: September 27, 2011, 02:26:51 PM »
pfffft

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« Reply #14571 on: September 27, 2011, 02:29:22 PM »
I don't think BYU will join.  They seem to think they can make demands: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700182636/BYU-Big-12-interest-draws-plenty-of-speculation.html

Joining the Big XII will do a lot more for BYU than it will for the Big XII.  If they make special demands it doesn't help our stability at all. And that's the only reason we want them.

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« Reply #14572 on: September 27, 2011, 02:31:06 PM »
seems like a great idea.  Lets setup a conference with as man special rules and provisions as possible. 
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« Reply #14573 on: September 27, 2011, 02:32:53 PM »
seems like a great idea.  Lets setup a conference with as man special rules and provisions as possible. 

Only if we get Notre Dame too.

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« Reply #14574 on: September 27, 2011, 02:38:22 PM »
I really don't care if they replay games.  Sounds like it's up to ESPN and Fox to allow them into the Big 12.  Where is Dan Beebe when we need him?