Re: 4 Team College Football Playoff

[memphis]

I like that Oregon, FSU and Alabama will prove it on the field.

[memphis]

Nope FSU would have been left out, and rightfully so.  The BCS always got it right.

Someone is in the pocket of big pollsters

[memphis]

ESPN has a selection show they'd like to have high ratings for by creating controversy or storylines of OSU vs TCU/BU.

[memphis]

But that FCS game!

[memphis]

A non-blue blood big 10 team would have gotten less respect than Baylor or TCU did imo.  Purdue wouldn't have gotten the bump up and then bump out.  Everybody would have just agreed they were out unless a bunch of teams above them lost.

I agree with that.  I think that will always be a weakness of this system.  It similarly (but less dramatically) impacts basketball tournament selection.

This was bound to happen when they chose a plus one rather than 6 or 8 teams.

[memphis]

If KSU beats Baylor last night, does tcu get in? I think they might.

nope, not a chance

Perhaps if the big10 game was a game.

[pissclams]

I believe I said it earlier this year: the only way KSU can get in the playoffs is to go undefeated (this is likely for any Big 12 team).

our chances just got slightly better
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12300661/college-football-playoff-names-texas-tech-red-raiders-athletic-director-kirby-hocutt-big-12-representative

[Pete]

You guys think there will ever be an “NIT” for football  that runs concurrently with the main playoff? I hope so, in fact I bet you could make a shitload of money running like 4 of them simultaneously (North, east, south, west). Bring the bowls into it to keep them happy.  Would be so much fun

[MakeItRain]

No. In basketball the NIT has stuck around only because it's older than the NCAA tournament. Not only are the bowls too powerful for another tournament to happen, they're already trying to stick their noses in the first round of the new playoff, but the physical nature of football doesn't lend itself to a team playing more than one post season exhibition game

[Pete]

IDEA:  A sponsor should form a new college football association that invites all of the conferences/teams in FBS to sign up, pays the exit fees, and immediately institutes a 24 team playoff just like the FCS, or even go bigger.  Then the sponsor gets all the regular season and post season rights to the greatest american sports event ever.  I bet you could actually still make money after the insane costs.

[Pete]

In my dream scenario, all 11 FBS conference champions would make the tournament, and then remaining 13 would be at-large bids.

[MakeItRain]

10

[Pete]

10

That’s perfect. 14 at large teams to get to 24.  That would so amazing.  Just like the FCS. Top 8 ranked teams get first round byes.

[wetwillie]

That’s called the NFL pete

[nicname]

I've always been a 16 man. Starting to lean toward 12 w top 4 byes, but that takes a home game from a top seed

[Pete]

I just really love conference champions from the small conferences getting a shot.

[MakeItRain]

I just really love conference champions from the small conferences getting a shot.

I agree with you on all of the conferences getting a shot. I don't like 14 at larges, at all. If we had this set up, this year, none of the conference championship games would have meant much of anything, same could have been said about the last week of the regular season.

I watch the FCS playoffs and those first round games are awful, there is a bigger disparity between programs in the FBS, it would be worse. Bowl games are a much better product, than a third place Big 10 team hosting the MAC champions.

[Houstoncat93]

10

11 in the near future

https://footballscoop.com/news/two-fcs-leagues-planning-to-join-forces-as-the-11th-fbs-conference

[MakeItRain]

FBS is now bigger than the FCS with no signs of slowing down. Something's going to change, soon. The autonomy conferences are certainly not going to feed more mouths.

[Cartierfor3]

You guys think there will ever be an “NIT” for football  that runs concurrently with the main playoff? I hope so, in fact I bet you could make a shitload of money running like 4 of them simultaneously (North, east, south, west). Bring the bowls into it to keep them happy.  Would be so much fun

Bowl games are the NIT

[Pete]

I haven’t watched a non-playoff bowl game in a long, long time unless the Cats were in it. But, I’d watch hypothetical Sun Belt ChampTroy State against at large bid UCLA in a 24 team playoff first round game.

[Pete]

Outside of a playoff, that game is unwatchable for me. In a playoff, I am captivated.

[catastrophe]

That exactly why people love March Madness (other than the gambling). But we’re never going to get that far. 12 teams is fair and will provide plenty enough interesting matchups.

[cfbandyman]

That exactly why people love March Madness (other than the gambling). But we’re never going to get that far. 12 teams is fair and will provide plenty enough interesting matchups.

Yup, which is why in general I don't understand anyone pushing back against it. People watch march madness not because that want to see the 1 seed beat a 16 by 30 points, but to see if another UMBC can do it.

Upsets, regional intrigue, cinderellas, are why we watch. Sure a Bama/Clemson/tOSU/UGA/Mich etc cohort could routinely make it and control and win it, but everyone wants to see a Tulane/UCF/Utah/Katz try and win it. It's what makes it fun.

[pissclams]

the gap in talent between a small and large program is much larger in football than it is in basketball.  what i’m saying is that this proposal would be lacking the madness part of march madness.