A place to rant about the teams we hate...mostly KU

[Mr Bread]

Self gets his guys to play very well and very hard, talent or no. So does Calipari.

Cal hasn't managed to do it every year in a smaller time period with more talent.

I agree with that. But when he does get those guys doing it they are ridiculous. He's not consistent like Bill though.

No one recruits like he does.  I think there are a number of coaches who could get teams like that playing at a high level if they had the opportunity.  I'm not as big a believer in his ego management cred as some I suppose.  It's the amassing of talent that others can't duplicate, not the coaching it up.  Of course he gets full credit for that.  Kentucky wasn't doing that under Billy Clyde or Tubby. 

[EMAWzified]

I enjoy hating on Harvard at tournament time.

"Everybody's so excited about it; in the dining halls, everyone's talking about it," said Danielle Rabinowitz, a Harvard sophomore from Brookline, Mass. "So, even for a person like myself, who isn't at the basketball games themselves, I'm pretty in tune with the success of the basketball team.

"People always stereotypically feel that our conversations are generally about philosophy, or obscure topics that the common man can't relate to. I think that just adding this element of sports to the mix kind of grounds us in a more human way that is really great."

i'll bet this chick is ugly as eff.

10 to 1 she's a knock out. Young Daryl Hannah ethereal trust fund beauty type. That quote is as close as she'll ever get to the common man. 

[Mr Bread]

I enjoy hating on Harvard at tournament time.

"Everybody's so excited about it; in the dining halls, everyone's talking about it," said Danielle Rabinowitz, a Harvard sophomore from Brookline, Mass. "So, even for a person like myself, who isn't at the basketball games themselves, I'm pretty in tune with the success of the basketball team.

"People always stereotypically feel that our conversations are generally about philosophy, or obscure topics that the common man can't relate to. I think that just adding this element of sports to the mix kind of grounds us in a more human way that is really great."

i'll bet this chick is ugly as eff.

10 to 1 she's a knock out. Young Daryl Hannah ethereal trust fund beauty type. That quote is as close as she'll ever get to the common man.

yes, quite fetching. handsome even.

[EMAWzified]

OK I didn't read close enough. She's a Jewish princess not a WASP. Scratch Daryl Hannah and substitute Jennifer Grey.

[Mixed-Nutz]

Self gets his guys to play very well and very hard, talent or no. So does Calipari.

Cal hasn't managed to do it every year in a smaller time period with more talent.

I agree with that. But when he does get those guys doing it they are ridiculous. He's not consistent like Bill though.

No one recruits like he does.  I think there are a number of coaches who could get teams like that playing at a high level if they had the opportunity.  I'm not as big a believer in his ego management cred as some I suppose.  It's the amassing of talent that others can't duplicate, not the coaching it up.  Of course he gets full credit for that.  Kentucky wasn't doing that under Billy Clyde or Tubby.

Bill Self hasn't had to deal with other teams in the conference recruiting close to the level he has. On top of that he fortunate enough to have older talent. Something Cal doesn't always have that luxury. Self is one the best roster builders of all time, but you don't do that alone do you.

Also if you look at Cal's 2012-2013 honestly really isn't all that talent.

[sonofdaxjones]

I really appreciate the "common man" theme.

[Mr Bread]

I found another. 

[Skipper44]

Self gets his guys to play very well and very hard, talent or no. So does Calipari.

Cal hasn't managed to do it every year in a smaller time period with more talent.

I agree with that. But when he does get those guys doing it they are ridiculous. He's not consistent like Bill though.

No one recruits like he does.  I think there are a number of coaches who could get teams like that playing at a high level if they had the opportunity.  I'm not as big a believer in his ego management cred as some I suppose.  It's the amassing of talent that others can't duplicate, not the coaching it up.  Of course he gets full credit for that.  Kentucky wasn't doing that under Billy Clyde or Tubby.

we haven't seen talent amassing like this since the Wooden/Gilbert era at UCLA

[420seriouscat69]

Mr. Bread, at the bar on Saturday before the Kstate/ku game I met one of my friends buddies who's an alum from Illinois. He was very giddy to tell me all about oscar. Thanks to you, I stopped him in his tracks and gave him the full history of ole oscar. He was floored that I was so knowledgeable on the matter. Thanks, man!

[EMAWzified]

Mr. Bread, at the bar on Saturday before the Kstate/ku game I met one of my friends buddies who's an alum from Illinois. He was very giddy to tell me all about oscar. Thanks to you, I stopped him in his tracks and gave him the full history of ole oscar. He was floored that I was so knowledgeable on the matter. Thanks, man!

When we do fire oscar, it's my hope we don't have the same reactionary response as Illinois and hire the a coach solely because his raspy voice in 180 degrees removed for squeaks. I kind of understand, tho.

[Mr Bread]

Self gets his guys to play very well and very hard, talent or no. So does Calipari.

Cal hasn't managed to do it every year in a smaller time period with more talent.

I agree with that. But when he does get those guys doing it they are ridiculous. He's not consistent like Bill though.

No one recruits like he does.  I think there are a number of coaches who could get teams like that playing at a high level if they had the opportunity.  I'm not as big a believer in his ego management cred as some I suppose.  It's the amassing of talent that others can't duplicate, not the coaching it up.  Of course he gets full credit for that.  Kentucky wasn't doing that under Billy Clyde or Tubby.

Bill Self hasn't had to deal with other teams in the conference recruiting close to the level he has. On top of that he fortunate enough to have older talent. Something Cal doesn't always have that luxury. Self is one the best roster builders of all time, but you don't do that alone do you.

Also if you look at Cal's 2012-2013 honestly really isn't all that talent.

You're rough ridin' stupid.  There's really no way around it.  Other people recruiting close to their level didn't make Cal or Roy or K have down years.  It may have prevented them from winning their conferences in a given year, but it didn't make them suck crap on occasion.  They did that.  Self doesn't have those years.  He's doing something no one else is in that regard.  His teams show every year without fail. 

Go all the way back to his second year at Tulsa.  16 straight NCAA invites with at least one win every rough ridin' time but twice.  1st or 2nd in his conference every rough ridin' year.  The guy just dick stomps.  #winningmachine

[Mixed-Nutz]

Self gets his guys to play very well and very hard, talent or no. So does Calipari.

Cal hasn't managed to do it every year in a smaller time period with more talent.

I agree with that. But when he does get those guys doing it they are ridiculous. He's not consistent like Bill though.

No one recruits like he does.  I think there are a number of coaches who could get teams like that playing at a high level if they had the opportunity.  I'm not as big a believer in his ego management cred as some I suppose.  It's the amassing of talent that others can't duplicate, not the coaching it up.  Of course he gets full credit for that.  Kentucky wasn't doing that under Billy Clyde or Tubby.

Bill Self hasn't had to deal with other teams in the conference recruiting close to the level he has. On top of that he fortunate enough to have older talent. Something Cal doesn't always have that luxury. Self is one the best roster builders of all time, but you don't do that alone do you.

Also if you look at Cal's 2012-2013 honestly really isn't all that talent.

You're rough ridin' stupid.  There's really no way around it.  Other people recruiting close to their level didn't make Cal or Roy or K have down years.  It may have prevented them from winning their conferences in a given year, but it didn't make them suck crap on occasion.  They did that.  Self doesn't have those years.  He's doing something no one else is in that regard.  His teams show every year without fail. 

Go all the way back to his second year at Tulsa.  16 straight NCAA invites with at least one win every rough ridin' time but twice.  1st or 2nd in his conference every rough ridin' year.  The guy just dick stomps.  #winningmachine

Coaches K worst team 2011-2012 (Kenpom 21) lost the ACC regular season championship by one game to NORTH CAROLINA.

[CNS]

The streak is pretty remarkable, though--shared titles withstanding.  Just this morning in the shower I was thinking about the difficulties we will have in the coming years with alphanumeric representations of "the streak"

11 stra11ht
12 stra12ht
13 stra13ht
14 stra14ht
15 stra15ht
16 stra16ht
etc.

You guys really missed out on dimenasty.

[pissclams]

The only annoying thing about the endless reminders regarding the conference winning streak (other than how annoying it is to be told the same thing over and over) is the complete disregard of the fact that other teams have one the conference during that run.

I don't know a single OU fan that claims the Big XII in 2012, yet the validation gooners are content to ignore the second place finishes.

It all the bullshit they talk about that piss me off, wish the could except the fact they are who they are because they have talent in spades. Not this X&O genius or superb player development.

Self dominates every rough ridin' year.  Not even Cal and Roy can claim that.  Hell even Krzyzewski has down years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006%E2%80%9307_Duke_Blue_Devils_men%27s_basketball_team.

KU just gets better talent than them?

coach k was hurt that season

[Spracne]

The streak is pretty remarkable, though--shared titles withstanding.  Just this morning in the shower I was thinking about the difficulties we will have in the coming years with alphanumeric representations of "the streak"

11 stra11ht
12 stra12ht
13 stra13ht
14 stra14ht
15 stra15ht
16 stra16ht
etc.

You guys really missed out on dimenasty.

...and 1 for the d11ck

[Mr Bread]

Self gets his guys to play very well and very hard, talent or no. So does Calipari.

Cal hasn't managed to do it every year in a smaller time period with more talent.

I agree with that. But when he does get those guys doing it they are ridiculous. He's not consistent like Bill though.

No one recruits like he does.  I think there are a number of coaches who could get teams like that playing at a high level if they had the opportunity.  I'm not as big a believer in his ego management cred as some I suppose.  It's the amassing of talent that others can't duplicate, not the coaching it up.  Of course he gets full credit for that.  Kentucky wasn't doing that under Billy Clyde or Tubby.

Bill Self hasn't had to deal with other teams in the conference recruiting close to the level he has. On top of that he fortunate enough to have older talent. Something Cal doesn't always have that luxury. Self is one the best roster builders of all time, but you don't do that alone do you.

Also if you look at Cal's 2012-2013 honestly really isn't all that talent.

You're rough ridin' stupid.  There's really no way around it.  Other people recruiting close to their level didn't make Cal or Roy or K have down years.  It may have prevented them from winning their conferences in a given year, but it didn't make them suck crap on occasion.  They did that.  Self doesn't have those years.  He's doing something no one else is in that regard.  His teams show every year without fail. 

Go all the way back to his second year at Tulsa.  16 straight NCAA invites with at least one win every rough ridin' time but twice.  1st or 2nd in his conference every rough ridin' year.  The guy just dick stomps.  #winningmachine

Coaches K worst team 2011-2012 (Kenpom 21) lost the ACC regular season championship by one game to NORTH CAROLINA.

I linked it for you before. 

Self dominates every rough ridin' year.  Not even Cal and Roy can claim that.  Hell even Krzyzewski has down years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006%E2%80%9307_Duke_Blue_Devils_men%27s_basketball_team.

KU just gets better talent than them?

That's 22–11 (8–8) good for 6th in the ACC to go along with a first round flameout in the NCAAs.  There was also 1995–96 at 18–13 (8–8) good for a 4th-place tie in the ACC and another first round exit.  You're not right.

[Spracne]

The coroner is going to be working through the night in Snide City, Cyberspace, USA.

[OregonSmock]

 

[Mixed-Nutz]

Self gets his guys to play very well and very hard, talent or no. So does Calipari.

Cal hasn't managed to do it every year in a smaller time period with more talent.

I agree with that. But when he does get those guys doing it they are ridiculous. He's not consistent like Bill though.

No one recruits like he does.  I think there are a number of coaches who could get teams like that playing at a high level if they had the opportunity.  I'm not as big a believer in his ego management cred as some I suppose.  It's the amassing of talent that others can't duplicate, not the coaching it up.  Of course he gets full credit for that.  Kentucky wasn't doing that under Billy Clyde or Tubby.

Bill Self hasn't had to deal with other teams in the conference recruiting close to the level he has. On top of that he fortunate enough to have older talent. Something Cal doesn't always have that luxury. Self is one the best roster builders of all time, but you don't do that alone do you.

Also if you look at Cal's 2012-2013 honestly really isn't all that talent.

You're rough ridin' stupid.  There's really no way around it.  Other people recruiting close to their level didn't make Cal or Roy or K have down years.  It may have prevented them from winning their conferences in a given year, but it didn't make them suck crap on occasion.  They did that.  Self doesn't have those years.  He's doing something no one else is in that regard.  His teams show every year without fail. 

Go all the way back to his second year at Tulsa.  16 straight NCAA invites with at least one win every rough ridin' time but twice.  1st or 2nd in his conference every rough ridin' year.  The guy just dick stomps.  #winningmachine

Coaches K worst team 2011-2012 (Kenpom 21) lost the ACC regular season championship by one game to NORTH CAROLINA.

I linked it for you before. 

Self dominates every rough ridin' year.  Not even Cal and Roy can claim that.  Hell even Krzyzewski has down years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006%E2%80%9307_Duke_Blue_Devils_men%27s_basketball_team.

KU just gets better talent than them?

That's 22–11 (8–8) good for 6th in the ACC to go along with a first round flameout in the NCAAs.  There was also 1995–96 at 18–13 (8–8) good for a 4th-place tie in the ACC and another first round exit.  You're not right.

Team still finished 12th in Kenpom.

[Mr Bread]

I was directly insulting, but maybe you mean M-N is practicing deception.  If it's schtick, it's fantastic. 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Self gets his guys to play very well and very hard, talent or no. So does Calipari.

Cal hasn't managed to do it every year in a smaller time period with more talent.

Cal has a hundred more wins (including some in the nba), more final fours, more elite 8's, and did most of that at rough ridin' UMASS and Memphis.  What fantasy are you living in?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Not sure if anyone has heard, but kstate has the most wins in big xii conference play all-time.

I'll remind you again in 5 minutes, then wear a t-shirt stating the same, then put up a billboard, then tell you again.

[Spracne]

Not sure if anyone has heard, but kstate has the most wins in big xii conference play all-time.

I'll remind you again in 5 minutes, then wear a t-shirt stating the same, then put up a billboard, then tell you again.

This is a basketball thread.  Were you immunized as a child?

[ksupamplemousse]

 

Hi Beems!

[wetwillie]

You know your thread is on fire when beems is gone for like a decade and comes back and drops a GIF and no one even notices.