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Re: So did we not hold practice the last 3 days?
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2015, 11:28:43 AM »
Screening against that press would have compounded the problem you dumbasses

Yeah, moving/cutting was as much of a problem as screening. I think you can use screening and cutting off of screens to relieve pressure though.

Also, while the TOs were extremely frustrating, I'm still more upset about the things that we can control. Shooting 38.5% on 2s and 10-22 on FTs in the 2nd half is more frustrating to me. In the paint you've got to find a way to get body contact and draw fouls and not let WVU's bigs change your shot or put yourself into a position where officials aren't going to give you a call. I thought we did that far too often. Its inexcusable to only get 2 points off of 9 offensive boards in the first half.

Finally, you absolutely must make FTs against WVU because you know you are going to the line a lot against them. I'm not advocating that we make 80-90% either, even if we just shoot around our average (70%) we have 5 more points and it completely changes the dynamics down the stretch.

IMHO, those two factors had more of an impact on losing this game than the TOs. And the TO problems were really bad.

I think turnovers are easier to control than shooting percentage, and they were worse than turnovers in a typical game because so many of them came in the backcourt. It was probably the worst I have ever seen a college team handle full court pressure, honestly.

WVU only scored 11 points off of TOs though. They got run outs only a handful of times.

Now, each TO is a missed opportunity on offense for us, so that still hurts.

Yeah, it's amazing to me that the game stayed as close as it was when we had so much trouble getting the ball to the frontcourt.

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Re: So did we not hold practice the last 3 days?
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2015, 11:29:28 AM »
Did we do something different during the first 5 minutes or so when we built a nice lead, or did WVU just change how they were applying pressure? I missed the beginning of the game.

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Re: So did we not hold practice the last 3 days?
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2015, 11:31:13 AM »
Yeah, it's amazing to me that the game stayed as close as it was when we had so much trouble getting the ball to the frontcourt.

Well, that's WVU. They threw it away 20 times themselves and decided to chuck 17 threes while only making 4.

Also, I get that you don't always "control" shooting, but making only 38.5% of your twos is something you should have more control of, especially with many of those shots at the rim.

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Re: So did we not hold practice the last 3 days?
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2015, 11:34:03 AM »
Some of the time this season a player has been open the second the official hands us the ball.  Then we feel obligated to run some terrible inbounds play instead of just getting the ball in.

WV's big standing in front of the ball so they have time to set up the press was a good move.

I've noticed this quite a bit.  Which makes it even more awesome when we end up running into each other when trying to screen on the inbounds.  :ROFL:

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Re: So did we not hold practice the last 3 days?
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2015, 11:38:00 AM »
Did we do something different during the first 5 minutes or so when we built a nice lead, or did WVU just change how they were applying pressure? I missed the beginning of the game.

They simply were not scoring as much. The best way to play against good pressure defense is to not let them score and set their defense.

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Re: So did we not hold practice the last 3 days?
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2015, 12:25:55 PM »
we were in the double bonus with 11 minutes left in the 2nd half.  and lost.  LOL.


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Re: So did we not hold practice the last 3 days?
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2015, 12:42:35 PM »
Screening against that press would have compounded the problem you dumbasses
It embarrassing if we can't win enough one on ones to get the ball in. Spacing is important tho.

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Re: So did we not hold practice the last 3 days?
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2015, 12:47:05 PM »
I bet we did hold practice. If we didn't I think some serious evaluations need to be made by Currie and Co. I mean how can you not have practice during the heart of the conference schedule?  It's unthinkable.  I know some of you have a hardened heart when it comes to oscar, but come on!

Agree.  My guess is we had multiple practices. To think otherwise shows that the OP probably never played or coached basketball and doesn't really understand how D1 college athletics work. Not trying to be mean, just being honest.

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Re: So did we not hold practice the last 3 days?
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2015, 12:49:23 PM »
the Hail Mary offense was ingenious

Yeah. Also, Big Meat trying to throw the ball off of a defender at the half court line is something I have never seen before.

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Re: So did we not hold practice the last 3 days?
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2015, 02:22:43 PM »
I suppose if we wanted to get trapped more we could have set more screens.

Our players do not come to the ball, do not move to create space and do not cut hard. You are never going to be able to run anything if you don't do that.
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Re: So did we not hold practice the last 3 days?
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2015, 02:41:21 PM »
I bet we did hold practice. If we didn't I think some serious evaluations need to be made by Currie and Co. I mean how can you not have practice during the heart of the conference schedule?  It's unthinkable.  I know some of you have a hardened heart when it comes to oscar, but come on!

Agree.  My guess is we had multiple practices. To think otherwise shows that the OP probably never played or coached basketball and doesn't really understand how D1 college athletics work. Not trying to be mean, just being honest.
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Re: So did we not hold practice the last 3 days?
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2015, 02:49:58 PM »
I suppose if we wanted to get trapped more we could have set more screens.

Our players do not come to the ball, do not move to create space and do not cut hard. You are never going to be able to run anything if you don't do that.

All true on your second point. On the first point it seemed to me that we were fine after the first pass, but you very well may be right, we may have struggled with traps if we set screens.